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Ways to improve Acrorenal mandibular syndrome
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This article's lede paragraph is almost a direct 1-1 copy from this article. Could you please paraphrase it.
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- i often copy and paste info into a separate doc before paraphrasing and editing the article. i must have accidentally added the copy and pasted version instead of the paraphrased version. i will fix this ASAP. thank you for pointing this out. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 20:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Schminnte: i often copy and paste info into a separate doc before paraphrasing and editing the article. i must have accidentally added the copy and pasted version instead of the paraphrased version. i believe I have fixed the copyright issues. thanks so much for pointing this out to me.
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- I've re-worded some of the sections that were identified as copyright however I'm having a hard time figuring out how to list the symptoms of a disorder in a way that doesn't violate copyright. I'm not sure how to put symptoms into my own words without losing the meaning.
- Thank you for fixing my copyright errors. I will make sure to be more careful from now on! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 17:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
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- I don't believe I've ever edited that article... You might have the wrong editor. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 02:25, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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- I use the rater bot and it just said C (55%) so I went with it. I didn't mean to cause any disputes. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 03:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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- I was using the rater bot and it must not have changed the banner shell? Regardless, I'll be more careful as I didn't even notice that the banner shell had it's own rating. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- I believe that rater has been updated, but perhaps you could have a try sometime and confirm this? Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I did try to put things into my own words but I'm not always the best at summarizing material and it's something I'm still working hard to improve on! I didn't even know there was research papers that used Creative Commons so I'll start checking from now on so I can add the template. I'm having a hard time finding the template documentation for the template you used. I just checked the page and I try to search "Creative Commons text attribution notice" in the help section but I can't seem to find the exact template. If you wouldn't mind linking the template documentation that would be super helpful!
- Thanks again, I always appreciate feedback as I'm still quite new and will always have something new to learn about this site! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 15:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- update: just after replying to your comment i found the template documentation so you can ignore that part. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 15:53, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- I have several of these templates ready to go in a sandbox. — Diannaa (talk) 20:57, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your message I always appreciate the feedback. While I didn't copy text directly I did mimic the format and I will be the first to admit that I suck at paraphrasing. It's something that I'm continuing to work on. I did rewrite the article again and was much more diligent on how i phrased things. 23:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC) CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 23:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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I've seen you assessing a lot of articles for WPMED. Thank you! Also, I wonder if you'd be interested in looking at m:Research:Screening WikiProject Medicine articles for quality/Stub prediction table. This is a list (about a month or two old now) of articles tagged as stubs that probably aren't. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:13, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! this is exactly the kind of thing i love doing! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 02:01, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm glad to have some help. Please remember that your judgment is always more important than the suggestion in the table. In particular, down towards the "51% chance of being a Start-class" section, I find far more than 51% of them are still Stubs. You should rate them the way that you always do. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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I was worried you might respond harshly when I failed your GA nomination, but you took it in stride and committed to making the page better. Thank you for that humility, and I went looking through the barnstars to find the right one for you :) Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 19:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you so much! I really appreciate that you not only took the time to leave an incredibly helpful and detailed response to my nomination but also went out of your way to give me a Barnstar. My goal here on Wikipedia is to expand the amount of information available and I'm always open to ways that I can improve! I felt that your review really helped me understand my strengths and weaknesses when it comes to editing articles and that's really important to me as a new editor. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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I saw your edit to Talk:Addiction Rare in Patients Treated with Narcotics. Perhaps you could take a look at the article history and decide whether this version is better than the current version. That revert, and many before it, had nothing to do with actual content. In the edit summary, "article structure" refers to having something in the intro but not in the body, which is against WP:LEAD. The rest of the edit summary should be self-explanatory. 200.143.99.122 (talk) 01:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused about what you are trying to say here. I don't have a strong opinion on which version is better. I didn't revert any content or make any drastic changes. If you disagree with my edit (the rating) then we can talk about that but I'm not involved in the other edits. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just thought you might have some interest in that topic. I guess you'd have to look at the sources to understand why the other version is better. 200.143.99.122 (talk) 08:26, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I looked into it a bit and the reason that edit was reverted was because the edit was made by an WP:SOCKPUPPET. So if you want to go make the same edits on your own they shouldn’t get removed.
- I rated that article because I was going through medical start class articles to see which ones needed reassessment. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 09:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article is "extended-confirmed" protected, meaning that one would have to have at least 500 previous edits in order to edit it. 200.143.99.122 (talk) 10:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I see. I can make the edits if you would like since I have over 500 edits. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article is "extended-confirmed" protected, meaning that one would have to have at least 500 previous edits in order to edit it. 200.143.99.122 (talk) 10:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just thought you might have some interest in that topic. I guess you'd have to look at the sources to understand why the other version is better. 200.143.99.122 (talk) 08:26, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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Regarding your edit on Pseudoallergy:
- Using "you" in an article doesn't fit Wikipedia's Manual of Style. See WP:YOU.
- Beware of closely paraphrasing sources. Your edit includes the phrase
An oral food challenge test is a highly reliable ...
, which is copied verbatim from the source (Cleveland Clinic).
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- @W.andrea Thank you for bringing this up! I had no idea about the first part. As for paraphrasing, I do struggle a lot with paraphrasing information and it's something I'm continueing to try and work on. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Happy to help! Take a look at WP:FIXCLOSEPARA. — W.andrea (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I was just reviewing that page yesterday (as well as some others) after you left the message on my talk page! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 21:27, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Happy to help! Take a look at WP:FIXCLOSEPARA. — W.andrea (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Would I be able to transfer some of my major edits over there? CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 22:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
I have reversed one of your recent edits at Comlan A. A. Quenum where you remove text that was tagged with [citation needed] as per WP:Preserve FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagma I restored part of my edit, but I won't revert your revert. However, I do recommend you check out WP:REVONLY (part of this is my fault for not seprating my edits) as well as WP:BURDEN, specifically the part about "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material." With the overwhelming amount of unsourced info on Wikipedia, I've gotten a bit bold with just removing content that has been unsourced for long periods of time. In an ideal world, I would prefer to find sources for the unreferenced claims, but that's just not possible all of the time. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 14:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Burden is about the reliability of sources. WP:Preserve is about keeping unsourced materials in pages excluding BlPs of living people and negative information. These are two different policies. Nothing about preserve is about time, but I understand your frustration but please do not go wild on areas that already lack coverage here on Wiki due to many reasons including geographical bias. You can actually help build articles about these regions or just preserve the little that is left. Anyway, I hope you will consider FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagmaWP:BURDEN is not just about the reliability of sources, it's also about the responsibility of providing sources. I do understand wanting to preserve what information you do have but again I'd like to point to WP:BURDEN "Any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." While I'd love to be able to hunt down sources for every unreferenced claim, it is not my responsibility to find sources for others, as that burden lies on whoever added the unsourced info, or in this case, chose to include it. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:54, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- It also says “Consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step. When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source, and the material therefore may not be verifiable.”
- policies should not contradict each other and if you look to WP:Preserve it states “Rather than remove imperfect content outright, fix problems if you can, tag or excise them if you can't.”
- going back to WP:Burden, it states “Do not leave unsourced or poorly sourced material in an article if it might damage the reputation of living people or existing groups, and do not move it to the talk page. You should also be aware of how Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons also applies to groups.” And this is not.
- again these policies do not contradict each other
- Anyway, if you are keen on removing stuff start with US related articles. Here, Utah#Spanish exploration (1540) please go and remove the entire section. FuzzyMagma (talk) 22:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagmaThe bits I removed had citation needed templates for over a year now, so someone already tagged it, hence I didn't need to. I'm not stating that these policies contradict each other, I'm just stating that you seem to be ignoring "Any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." The burden now lays on you to find citations for this content as you chose to include it. I mostly edit on the medical side of wikipedia, and I don't accept edit requests as a general rule. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 22:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- I was the who tagged it as I was not happy with the source and tagging the information just let the reader know that this information should be taken with a grain of salt.
- And this is not a medical article.
- I really do not understand why people choose articles from these regions to exercise the extreme of a specific policy that says “maybe remove”. Maybe not. We had a couple of the same incidents last year. See User talk:Brlob FuzzyMagma (talk) 06:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Anyway, I truly understand where you are coming from and I really hope you can appreciate my point. I will try to fix the citation issue and thanks for taking interest on Quenum. He is a legend. Have a nice day and sorry if my rebuttals rubbed you the wrong way FuzzyMagma (talk) 06:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagmaI’ve had some time to think this situation over and I want to apologize. I feel that I came off a bit too harshly in some of my original replies. I’ve had time to reflect and talk with others and through this my mindset has changed a bit. Thank you for being kind in your responses as I likely would not have reached this conclusion without the helpful feedback. I think you understand where my frustration comes from, but I guess I’ve kinda made the mistake of assuming I need to fix every issue I come across. This isn’t sustainable for long term editing. I’ve decided to change my threshold for removing unreferenced material. Instead of doing large removals I’ll focus more on only removing material that isn’t easily verifiable, has been uncited for awhile, doesn’t have people actively editing the page, or material that seems out of place or unlikely to be verified. The material I removed from your page (and admittedly other material I’ve removed in the past) doesn’t meet this criteria. While I still stand by what I said in past replies, I’m learning that policies and such don’t always need to be followed so closely and building the encyclopedia is much more of a priority to me. I truly don’t know why I pushed this issue so much with you but I again want to thank you for the time you spent replying to me and the attitude you had while doing so. I hope you continue to make the quality contributions that you do and this “conflict” doesn’t disrupt that. Best of luck with your future editing and I’m glad we were able to have this discussion in a civilized manner. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 18:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the nice reply. I was really hoping that our disagreement will not deter you, and I am glad to see it didn’t. It’s really easy to forget about the “human” behind the keyboard and I am glad you managed to see me.
- I understand the criticality of verifiability for medicine pages as misinformation there cab ruin lives and I appreciate your work fixing that. Take care FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagmaI’ve had some time to think this situation over and I want to apologize. I feel that I came off a bit too harshly in some of my original replies. I’ve had time to reflect and talk with others and through this my mindset has changed a bit. Thank you for being kind in your responses as I likely would not have reached this conclusion without the helpful feedback. I think you understand where my frustration comes from, but I guess I’ve kinda made the mistake of assuming I need to fix every issue I come across. This isn’t sustainable for long term editing. I’ve decided to change my threshold for removing unreferenced material. Instead of doing large removals I’ll focus more on only removing material that isn’t easily verifiable, has been uncited for awhile, doesn’t have people actively editing the page, or material that seems out of place or unlikely to be verified. The material I removed from your page (and admittedly other material I’ve removed in the past) doesn’t meet this criteria. While I still stand by what I said in past replies, I’m learning that policies and such don’t always need to be followed so closely and building the encyclopedia is much more of a priority to me. I truly don’t know why I pushed this issue so much with you but I again want to thank you for the time you spent replying to me and the attitude you had while doing so. I hope you continue to make the quality contributions that you do and this “conflict” doesn’t disrupt that. Best of luck with your future editing and I’m glad we were able to have this discussion in a civilized manner. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 18:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Anyway, I truly understand where you are coming from and I really hope you can appreciate my point. I will try to fix the citation issue and thanks for taking interest on Quenum. He is a legend. Have a nice day and sorry if my rebuttals rubbed you the wrong way FuzzyMagma (talk) 06:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagmaThe bits I removed had citation needed templates for over a year now, so someone already tagged it, hence I didn't need to. I'm not stating that these policies contradict each other, I'm just stating that you seem to be ignoring "Any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." The burden now lays on you to find citations for this content as you chose to include it. I mostly edit on the medical side of wikipedia, and I don't accept edit requests as a general rule. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 22:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FuzzyMagmaWP:BURDEN is not just about the reliability of sources, it's also about the responsibility of providing sources. I do understand wanting to preserve what information you do have but again I'd like to point to WP:BURDEN "Any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." While I'd love to be able to hunt down sources for every unreferenced claim, it is not my responsibility to find sources for others, as that burden lies on whoever added the unsourced info, or in this case, chose to include it. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:54, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Burden is about the reliability of sources. WP:Preserve is about keeping unsourced materials in pages excluding BlPs of living people and negative information. These are two different policies. Nothing about preserve is about time, but I understand your frustration but please do not go wild on areas that already lack coverage here on Wiki due to many reasons including geographical bias. You can actually help build articles about these regions or just preserve the little that is left. Anyway, I hope you will consider FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
GARC and reviewing experience
Hi and thanks for submitting an article to GARC! I saw that you noted that you have only ever reviewed 3 GAs. Looking at one, John Sterling (American football), leads me to believe that you may benefit from gathering more experience in this area before joining in at GARC. Your questions at WT:GA (while good to ask, don't get me wrong!) and the lack of suggestions for improvement at the above-stated GA review (as well as the lack of a substantive prose review at your other two) make it seem like you may not be 100% ready for GARC. Of course, I could be wrong, but we had an issue a few weeks ago with a newer reviewer not being ready to participate, so I just want to make as sure as I can that all reviews are of as equal quality as possible. Thanks! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS This is completely understandable! The sterling article was definetly a challenge for me and my review reflected that. Prose is something I really struggle with as a writer as well and that could be why my reviews don't go in as much depth there. Is there any suggestions you have for improving this area? Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Adrenal crisis
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Adrenal crisis you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Wolverine XI -- Wolverine XI (talk) 07:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Just a small sidenote
Hey, friendly note that any responses at AE should stay inside of your own statement section, so you should move this down into your statement section. Happy editing :) Raladic (talk) 01:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for letting me know I've never dealt with AE before and didn't know this! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 01:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, there's always a first time to the different behind the scenes areas on Wikipedia.
- AE has a fairly formal format, so each statement by users is limited to their own statement section and 500 words, so each user can edit their own section (as long as they stay within the 500 word limit) stating their case.
- Sometimes when replying to something new a user has added, you may add a @ mention if it's not quite clear who you're referring to in part of your statement. Raladic (talk) 01:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Recent developments
Just a note to say that if external assistance isn't forthcoming in the next half day or so then I'll approach an administrator directly and ask for their advice. Axad12 (talk) 04:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Axad12 Sounds good. I did write up a draft for kinda what I would say but its not great and needs to be updated. I was originally thinking of saying something along the lines of "I originally brought my issues with User:Exerciser87 to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#User:Exerciser87 for the COI issues) however I was encouraged to bring this issue to the attention of an admin. I believe that User:Exerciser87 is evading a block based off Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Guptalab/Archive I'm not fully sure how all of this works but it seems highly likely that User:Exerciser87 was also involved in the sockpuppetry and is therfore most likely evading a block. " Thank you for helping me out with this, I've never dealt with this kind of thing before. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm currently drafting something rather similar with a view to raising it an WP:ANI. There are other negative elements such as the edit warring, aspersions, evasiveness, refusal to abide by COI policy, etc. that need to be mentioned to demonstrate ongoing disruption.
- I will wait to see if anybody takes action in the meantime however.
- If the user continues to edit war and pursue an evasive line of argument then really he's doing himself no favours. Thus, no major hurry at this stage.
- To be honest, anybody looking at the 2017 history, recent history and current discussion will surely see what is happening. Axad12 (talk) 05:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I'm not sure how sockpuputting works but hopefully an admin can link the accounts. I also think the fact that the most recent user has admitted to having multiple accounts should add credit to the claims. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, good point. Leave it with me for the time being. I'll speak to an admin later today, see what their advice is, and then get back to you. Until then we'll have to see if anything develops out of the current COIN thread. Axad12 (talk) 05:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- An admin has now opened an SPI (link over at COIN) without me needing to ask anyone directly. That may potentially take over a week to be resolved as there is a long queue. I would suggest that we let that take its course for the time being and not take the matter to ANI. If the SPI comes up positive then the speedy deletion under G5 can probably proceed, which would be the simplest way of resolving the whole issue. If the user continues to edit war and argue in the meantime then he'll just be digging himself into a hole.
- Usually the article in question only attracts about 5 views a day, so there is no hurry. Yesterday it attracted over 120 views, so there are eyes on this situation. Axad12 (talk) 11:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good, I'm happy with leaving this as well. I'm glad things are being taken care of. Thank you again for your help! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 23:55, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just a note to say that after the article was previously deleted in May 2017, it was then recreated at some point and re-deleted in Aug 2017.
- Following the deletion today I predict that the sockmaster will return at some point, possibly in the near future.
- Therefore I will check from time to time to see if the article has been recreated. If you would do the same I'd appreciate it. If we see it recreated it can be speedy deleted again.
- Thanks for raising this at COIN. Keeping Wikipedia in good order needs people with sharp eyes who report this sort of thing. Axad12 (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I was about to nominate it for deletion just before an admin went ahead and deleted it. I also suspect that sockpuppets will pop up and plan on monitoring things as well. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- When I said would return "possibly in the near future" I didn't imagine he would resubmit the draft [1] within 30 minutes of it being deleted. He must think that everyone else on Wikipedia is a complete idiot... Axad12 (talk) 21:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I was about to nominate it for deletion just before an admin went ahead and deleted it. I also suspect that sockpuppets will pop up and plan on monitoring things as well. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good, I'm happy with leaving this as well. I'm glad things are being taken care of. Thank you again for your help! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 23:55, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, good point. Leave it with me for the time being. I'll speak to an admin later today, see what their advice is, and then get back to you. Until then we'll have to see if anything develops out of the current COIN thread. Axad12 (talk) 05:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I'm not sure how sockpuputting works but hopefully an admin can link the accounts. I also think the fact that the most recent user has admitted to having multiple accounts should add credit to the claims. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Adrenal crisis
The article Adrenal crisis you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Adrenal crisis for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Wolverine XI -- Wolverine XI (talk) 04:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Ping pong
I tried pinging you at a current GA review but it didn't work because your sig is not now your username and so you may wish to amend it. Note that my own sig is a shortened form of my own username but the dragon emoji is a clue that it's not quite what it seems. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for alerting me here! I recently changed my username so that is why sig didn't work. IntentionallyDense (talk) 11:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
New page reviewer granted
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This is a good time to re-acquaint yourself with the guidance at Wikipedia:New pages patrol. Before you get started, please take the time to:
- Add Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers to your watchlist to follow NPP-related discussions
- If you use Twinkle, configure it to log your CSDs and PRODs
- If you can read any languages other than English, add yourself to the list of reviewers with language proficiencies
You can find a list of other useful links and tools for patrollers at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Resources. If you are ever unsure what to do, ask your fellow patrollers or just leave the page for someone else to review – you're not alone! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks!
Just to say thanks for all the helpful feedback on your good article review. A pleasure working with you! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- It was great working with you as well. Although I really didn’t have to do much work with your nomination! IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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Draftifying the article
The encyclopedia is a collective work and if you have problems with an article you can share it with the article creator before converting it to a draft and ignoring all the effort provided by the editor. If you had looked at the article carefully, you would have seen that there are actually two other sources, UEFA and Soccerway. EpicAdventurer (talk) 21:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @EpicAdventurer Hi, I'm sorry if me coverting your article to draftspace came off as me devauling your work in any way as this was not my intentions at all. I did notice the other two sources however ususally those types of sources where they just list stats aren't really used to establish notabilty (see Wikipedia:Notability (sports)). I'm not saying the article isn't notable as I haven't done enough digging to make that statement I'm just saying additional sources, such as non routine coverage, may need to be added to establish extra notability. If you feel the article is ready for mainspace you can always submit it at AFC. IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Tailored Truth for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tailored Truth until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.I'm notifying you since you accepted this article at AfC. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
GAN review
Hello, I have responded to your points on the GAN review and changed the highlighted bits accordingly. I hope the method by which I responded works, I've new to this process. Atubofsilverware (talk) 01:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- The GA table can make responding to comments tricky but you did just fine! I'll get back to you on the feedback on the review page. IntentionallyDense (talk) 01:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
GAN review
Hello, thanks for taking up the GA review for Holzwarth gas turbine. One of the review comments is that there is no citation for Holzwarth's time at Hooven, Owens & Rentschler. The information is in footnote 72 on the bottom of page 72. Is there some method I need to use for referencing footnotes or is the page number enough? I will work on addressing the other points.Stivushka (talk) 02:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see what you mean. I think I had downloaded the wrong version of the book. Don't worry about that referance for now, your current one is good I'm just going to go over it a second time. IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:37, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. The author of this book, Dietrich Eckart, has a habit of cramming a lot of relevant information into footnotes which most authors would probably make part of the main text.
- One other point, when I look at the GA nominations list the Holzwarth Gas Turbine article does not show as being under review. What is its current status? Stivushka (talk) 02:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- To be upfront I failed your nomination at first. This was overly harsh on my behalf and I apologize for that. Another editor reached out to me and infromed me that I should take another look and I did. Because of this the bot may not be updating the status properly. But your review is currently on hold and in progress so I plan on finishing the review. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Appreciate your openness, thanks.
- I have added page references to the Brown Boveri review articles. Will let you know when I have expanded the introduction in line with your comments (expect to have it done by Friday). Also, if there are any other change needed, please let me know.
- For Hooven, Owens & Rentschler: Is there somewhere I can temporarily upload a screenshot of the page? I really think this information should be in the article, but I don't have an alternative source. Stivushka (talk) 03:37, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I did update the review page to indicate which information was missing from that source. It may be a me issue (as in I didn't check the source close enough) but I specefically couldn't find the part "Holzwarth developed the theoretical concept for his gas turbine in 1905... built a 25 hp (19 kW) machine while working for Thyssen & Co." The rest of that paragraph I was able to find. If you could indicate which page exactly the info is on that might help me as well. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- To be upfront I failed your nomination at first. This was overly harsh on my behalf and I apologize for that. Another editor reached out to me and infromed me that I should take another look and I did. Because of this the bot may not be updating the status properly. But your review is currently on hold and in progress so I plan on finishing the review. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Hello
Hello, I created this basketball player article, Dazeran Jones. Kindly review. Your words of encouragement and pointers will also be greatly appreciated by me. Regards. Gracefoundme (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your time. Gracefoundme (talk) 10:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
New article ideas for you
After threatening to do so for years, I finally wrote Early sports specialization a year ago. Your userboxen suggest that you might be interested in creating swimmer's shoulder. There's a list of other missing articles about sports injuries at Talk:Early sports specialization#Too many red links. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- As a swimmer with a messed up shoulder (these two facts are unrelated) this is right up my alley. I'm currently participating in the GAR drive which is keeping me pretty busy but I will create a draft when I have time. The page Early sports specialization is fascinating, great work as always. There is some other interesting red links there that are catching my eye such as valgus extension overload syndrome, Gymnast wrist, and Sport-specific injuries. IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Delirium
Dear IntentionallyDense,
first of all thanks for trying to help me with the Delirium article. I just noticed now you removed my text I added on there, because it had no reliable sources. Delirium actually indeed has 2 types, one caused by anticholinergic drugs, unrelated to age of the patient(the person can be 25, 76, 43, 55... basically any age to suffer this type of delirium), and delirium of older people 65 and above, which is the more "popular" or more known type of delirium. I wanted to make it clear on the article about the 2 types, but couldnt find reliable sources to that. If I cant find, so we cant add the text? Because I noticed some texts on articles dont alwasys have sources, and they remain there. Does EVERYTHING require a reliable source? Noam Atadgy (talk) 02:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Any biomedical information (such as the information you were trying to include) requires reliable sourcing per Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). Non-medical articles aren't held to the same level of standards hence why you may see articles without as many sources. If you can't find reliable sources for information, consider the posibility that the information you recieved may not be reliable itself. I don't want you to take this the wrong way, I'm not saying that what you want to add in is inherantly untrue, just that we can't currently add it untill there is another source saying it's true.
- As for delerium, there is typically three types, hypoactive, hyperactive, and mixed. (source) As for what you're talking about with anticholinergic drugs I was able to find some sources to back it up. It appears to be a result of anticholinergic toxicity (source) and goes by several names such as Anticholinergic syndrome (source) and anticholinergic delirium. (source).
- This information is somewhat covered in Anticholinergic#Toxicity as well as Delirium#Causes. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think, its not covered enough, as they say. Can you try improve Delirium article by making it more explicitly stated, so readers can more easily understand? Or atleast try add, what I tried to add, and cite a source to it so it can remain there this time, without having to delete it again, and so on. I'd do these kind of things myself, but I'm new to wikipedia and I suck at it at the moment... but I really want the Delirium article to be improved. Noam Atadgy (talk) 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to encourage you to add this yourself. It would best belong under Delirium#Precipitating factors. This article seems to be reliable and easily avaible. You can use this tool to easily add citations. Make sure you put things into yout own words. I will keep watching the page for changes and can point you in the right direction if needed. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks man! Im kinda busy today, but I will get to it at some point. Generally, I think the Delirium article already has the basic information covered, so its probably not urgent. Noam Atadgy (talk) 03:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good! I hope you continue to contribute to Wikipedia as once you get past all the rules it is a lot of fun and we could always use the help! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I try when I have free time and can do it easily. If its something complicated, I leave it to more experienced editors / contributors like you. Noam Atadgy (talk) 03:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Some day you'll be the more experienced editor. We all start somewhere and I'm happy to help! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very busy right now here in Israel because of the war, rockets from Iran, and personal problems, and more. But, I will get to it and many other articles on Wikipedia when I can. I really like editing wikipedia, I was only a reader until recently... Noam Atadgy (talk) 04:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I hope you can find some distraction with editing wikipedia. If you’re interested in editing medical pages that’s my speciality and I’d love to help you out wherever needed! IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- What do you think about the war in my country Israel? Noam Atadgy (talk) 04:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer not to share my political beliefs online but i’m sure it’s a really difficult situation to be apart of and i’m sorry you’re stuck in that situation. IntentionallyDense (talk) 05:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Noam Atadgy (talk) 05:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Do you think Jesus is the Messiah? Noam Atadgy (talk) 16:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer not to share my political beliefs online but i’m sure it’s a really difficult situation to be apart of and i’m sorry you’re stuck in that situation. IntentionallyDense (talk) 05:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- What do you think about the war in my country Israel? Noam Atadgy (talk) 04:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I hope you can find some distraction with editing wikipedia. If you’re interested in editing medical pages that’s my speciality and I’d love to help you out wherever needed! IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very busy right now here in Israel because of the war, rockets from Iran, and personal problems, and more. But, I will get to it and many other articles on Wikipedia when I can. I really like editing wikipedia, I was only a reader until recently... Noam Atadgy (talk) 04:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Some day you'll be the more experienced editor. We all start somewhere and I'm happy to help! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I try when I have free time and can do it easily. If its something complicated, I leave it to more experienced editors / contributors like you. Noam Atadgy (talk) 03:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good! I hope you continue to contribute to Wikipedia as once you get past all the rules it is a lot of fun and we could always use the help! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks man! Im kinda busy today, but I will get to it at some point. Generally, I think the Delirium article already has the basic information covered, so its probably not urgent. Noam Atadgy (talk) 03:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to encourage you to add this yourself. It would best belong under Delirium#Precipitating factors. This article seems to be reliable and easily avaible. You can use this tool to easily add citations. Make sure you put things into yout own words. I will keep watching the page for changes and can point you in the right direction if needed. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think, its not covered enough, as they say. Can you try improve Delirium article by making it more explicitly stated, so readers can more easily understand? Or atleast try add, what I tried to add, and cite a source to it so it can remain there this time, without having to delete it again, and so on. I'd do these kind of things myself, but I'm new to wikipedia and I suck at it at the moment... but I really want the Delirium article to be improved. Noam Atadgy (talk) 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
That's not something I really feel comfortable answering. How about we stick to the topic of Wikipedia? Have you had time to make changes to the Delirium page yet? IntentionallyDense (talk) 16:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I need your help with the Delirium article. What can you help me with, with Delirium article? I'm new and dont want to make mistakes. Noam Atadgy (talk) 17:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- What specefically do you need help with? I would recomend by starting with explaning the conntection between Anticholinergic drugs and delirium using the article I linked above. IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes exactly that, if you can do this yourself instead. After you do so, it'll be easier for me. If I do it myself alone, and, first, there could be a few problems. So go try do it yourself alone, and afterwards, i'll add more. Noam Atadgy (talk) 17:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I’m quite busy at the moment so I might not get around to this for awhile. In the meantime I suggest you add it and I’ll correct any errors that I see. IntentionallyDense (talk) 18:25, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Can you go check what I added, and how can we let it remain permanently in the lead section of Delirium? Its very important. I have years of experience with Delirium and medications which cause Delirium. Noam Atadgy (talk) 14:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I’m quite busy at the moment so I might not get around to this for awhile. In the meantime I suggest you add it and I’ll correct any errors that I see. IntentionallyDense (talk) 18:25, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes exactly that, if you can do this yourself instead. After you do so, it'll be easier for me. If I do it myself alone, and, first, there could be a few problems. So go try do it yourself alone, and afterwards, i'll add more. Noam Atadgy (talk) 17:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- What specefically do you need help with? I would recomend by starting with explaning the conntection between Anticholinergic drugs and delirium using the article I linked above. IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
This award is given in recognition to IntentionallyDense for accumulating at least 25 points during the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
DYK for List of chronic pain syndromes
On 12 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article List of chronic pain syndromes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that chronic pain syndromes affect approximately 20 percent of people and account for 15 to 20 percent of doctor visits? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of chronic pain syndromes. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, List of chronic pain syndromes), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
GA review
Thank you for beginning to review Francis L. Sampson - I've left some replies to your comments, not sure if you got pinged for those and I saw you like pings, so here you are just in case! ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 23:04, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping! I do have the page watchlisted so I should know when you reply to stuff! IntentionallyDense (talk) 23:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Requested Article List and Stubs
Hi there
I'm writing to you here so I can get more of your wisdom on the requested medical article lists and stubs. We guide wiki writing in 2 courses. One for pharmacy students and the other for biomedical science students. In our current programme, we provide students with the following 2 lists:
Wikipedia:Requested articles/Medicine
Wikipedia:Requested articles/Medicine/Pharmacology
Students do identify sometimes that items on the list already exist and we don't have clear guidelines on how to advise them on this. Up to now, we have wrongly assumed that the item is on the list for a reason but it appears this is not straightforward. If we restructure the syllabus so that students are addressing stubs, I would be grateful for your suggestions on how we guide students on the technicals for this. We need to design rubrics around this and standardise a system so that all students are assessed fairly etc. Any suggestions here would be super helpful. I think we also need better guidance on how to identify "notable" topics. Thank you very much for your time on this. G.J.ThomThom (talk) 03:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @G.J.ThomThom I did leave a message on your talk page with the list of medical diseases. As far as notability, generally you want at least 3 reliable (meaning published by a reliable source), independant, secondary (so not case studies) sources. This is to make sure that you can cover a topic well given what sources are on hand. For example if I took the article acetiamine, which is on the Wikipedia:Requested articles/Medicine/Pharmacology list, I would find that the only studies publsihed on the topic are these three: [2] [3] [4] which are older studies that don't provide us with much information to create an article. Meanwhile if we look at Abarelix from Category:Pharmacology stubs I can easily find more than 3 [5] [6] [7] [8] different more in depth sources discussing it. Of course not all stubs are inherantly notable and you will find some with little to no sources but you're going to have an easier time finding pages this way. You might also want to check out Category:Start-Class pharmacology articles as a lot of these articles need some work but are most likely going to have more sources available, for example the page A-kinase-anchoring protein is mostly unsourced yet a simple google search turned up tons of high qaulity sources on the topic! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have just seen your message on my Talk page. Thank you very much. And thank you for this. All clear. I will very likely have more questions later. G.J.ThomThom (talk) 03:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to leave a message at any time. I'm pretty active on here most days. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Thank you. My fathers a teacher so perhaps that is where I get it from. I'm currently just a high school student (retaking some grade 12 classes, I technically should be in university already but life happens) but I've considered going into acedemics as I love research and that usually goes hand in hand with teaching. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can already see you have the makings of a researcher and teacher. Life sure does happen and we are all going through it but we take each day at a time. Thank you again for your availability and your great input. G.J.ThomThom (talk) 04:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. My fathers a teacher so perhaps that is where I get it from. I'm currently just a high school student (retaking some grade 12 classes, I technically should be in university already but life happens) but I've considered going into acedemics as I love research and that usually goes hand in hand with teaching. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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Peer review quesrtions
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Could I trouble you for ideas for peer review questions? We currently conduct a scaffolded peer review with students in the middle of the semester after students have completed their first draft of the wikipedia article. Our existing questions are directly aligned with our assessment rubrics and hopefully align with Wikipedia’s expectations, but I am keen to get the view of someone who has reviewed articles, specifically medical articles. We have a set of questions on organisation and structuring so these questions are about the lead, headings and so on. To give you an example of one of them: How does the lead sentence state the article topic? Is it accurate and to the point? Is it a single sentence? We also have this question but I think it might mislead students and does not entirely align with Wikipedia: Did the writer use coherence devices such as linking words, referencing devices, lexical chaining and the ‘Given-New Principle’?
I feel it’s important to craft a question that gets them paying attention to the fact that transition is handled differently in Wikipedia articles from academic articles. Basically there is no transition. Sections are standalone. Readers may only read the lead or they may jump to a section and not read the whole article so it should not be written as a narrative. Since they are students, the default approach is to write a thesis-driven argumentative essay so 1st drafts often have narrative features or transitional devices that are typical in essay structures ("This article aims to summarise...", “In conclusion”, “To sum up” ). They might also provide transitional topic sentences at the start of a section. Or reference and substitution (referring back to a previous section like in an academic report). I have noticed comments on some of the weaker articles that have been passed to a reviewer mentioning that it is written as an essay. So I think we need to focus more strongly on this at the peer review stage. Would you be willing to let me know what you would think would be good questions to tackle organisation and structuring? I could show you all the questions as there are others that I think could be improved but don't want to overly burden you with this.
G.J.ThomThom (talk) 17:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- So for most of wikipedia we try to use plain english. Instead of focusing on things such as "linking words, referencing devices, lexical chaining" I woud recomend focusing on if students are able to take a complex idea from a scientific paper and summerize it in a way which includes the details needed but also could be understood by someone who doesn't have a degree. This might not be something you would normally look for but it is one of the most important aspects of writing for wikipedia. As for organization, we do have Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles which I would say is really important and kind of outlines the tone that people should be writing in. Another huge one is text-source integreity. This often gets lost in writing about medical things. Another important factor is due weight. For example if you were writing about heart disease it wouldnt make sense to have 3 paragraphs talking about some rare genetic heart disease when there is much more common diseases that should be focused on. This kind of turned into a ramble but those are some things that you may not have thought about. Wikipedia:Writing better articles may have some more information that you may not have thought of. IntentionallyDense (talk) 18:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! We organise the peer review questions according to our rubric and our syllabus teaching so we are marking them on organisation, content, language and use of sources. So the peer review questions related to organisation are about arrangement of the sections and technical applications. Questions about content cover things like "comprehensive coverage" of the topic. The language questions cover NPOV, paraphrasing, summarising and synthesising skills. Sources cover appropriacy (no primary sources etc) recency, plagiarism but we don't use the word "notable" which I think we need to use. By the way we are linguistic and genre specialists at the uni. A lot of our teaching involves communicating science to the lay audience and features that make up plain english. Integrity is the cornerstone of uni teaching and learning so this is something that is already understood in the context. Students face consequences if plagiarism is found in uni assignments, including their wiki assignments. I will spend a bit of time on these questions. Can I come back to you to check if I am nailing the questions if that's ok with you? Thanks again for your time. Really appreciate it. G.J.ThomThom (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah sounds good to me! IntentionallyDense (talk) 19:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! We organise the peer review questions according to our rubric and our syllabus teaching so we are marking them on organisation, content, language and use of sources. So the peer review questions related to organisation are about arrangement of the sections and technical applications. Questions about content cover things like "comprehensive coverage" of the topic. The language questions cover NPOV, paraphrasing, summarising and synthesising skills. Sources cover appropriacy (no primary sources etc) recency, plagiarism but we don't use the word "notable" which I think we need to use. By the way we are linguistic and genre specialists at the uni. A lot of our teaching involves communicating science to the lay audience and features that make up plain english. Integrity is the cornerstone of uni teaching and learning so this is something that is already understood in the context. Students face consequences if plagiarism is found in uni assignments, including their wiki assignments. I will spend a bit of time on these questions. Can I come back to you to check if I am nailing the questions if that's ok with you? Thanks again for your time. Really appreciate it. G.J.ThomThom (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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- @Sir MemeGod Thank you this means a lot to me. I hope to see more of your articles at GAN as it was a really fun way to push me out my comfort zone. The source reviews are a tad intense but now that I know how to work the websites you guys use it’s a lot easier! Thanks for taking my feedback well. I’m always afraid I’ll come off as nitpicky or that it won’t be received well so it’s reassuring to know that other appreciate it. IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, I have nominated Francis L. Sampson for DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis L. Sampson ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 14:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- I’ll check it out but may need a second opinion as DYKN are a bit out of my comfort zone :) IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:34, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh no I'm not saying you should do a DYK approval for it - just wanted to let you know you were party of the process if it makes it to the front page and to keep your eye out! ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 18:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I understand now! I’m glad you’re trying for DYK it really helps with attracting readers to your page! IntentionallyDense (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Wow I didn't even realize I had gotten to 55! I've got a couple reviews on hold that should pass. Thanks for the encouragement! IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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Khashayar Farzam
Hi, following on from your AfC decline, I wonder if there is anything that can be done about the ongoing situation of various socks trying to get this article into mainspace (and occasionally succeeding). I was under the impression that the article had been salted to prevent further re-creation. There is some relevant recent correspondence here [9] where a new user approaches Liz in an attempt to re-create the article, seeming to claim rather unconvincingly that they are not yet another Guptalab sock. Any input you can provide here would be most appreciated. Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 23:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Axad12 We could request that it be protected again. Just to voice this now, I declined the draft due to sources not showing notability and I actually accidentally stumbled upon it when checking recent talkpage discussions for WPMED. I think whoever protected it assumed that whoever was trying to create it would give up. It would be fairly easy for a CU to check if that IP is the same as the previous accounts as using an IP gives away quite a bit of info. It's up to you how you want to proceed with this as I'm not quite sure what the best next steps are but those are my thoughts. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me.
- A couple of thoughts...
- Is it possible to determine which admin unsalted the article? If this persistent sockmaster was prepared to approach one admin (Liz) to re-create the article then it's entirely possible that they set up another new account and approached two admins, or however many it may have taken until one of them unsalted the article.
- Would it be possible for you to (a) request re-salting and (b) add the IP and the new user (the one at Liz's talk page) to the SPI. Unfortunately those are processes that I'm not familiar with, so any help here would be very welcome.
- Best wishes, Axad12 (talk) 03:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I could start a topic at ANI to request that, it would just take me awhile to write up. For now I think it is probably okay to leave it as I doubt the draft will get past AFC due to notability issues. It appears that the page Khashayar Farzam is protected just not the draft of it. I'm not sure if drafts can or are routinely protected? IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm not at all familiar with the process of protecting articles in this way. I had assumed that the idea was that it prevented drafts from being re-created - and this was why the sock had approached Liz (i.e. because they had been unable to create a draft).
- It seems that for reasons that I don't understand (from the comments at Liz's talk page) the user had been unable to recreate a draft on 14th Sept but by the 16th they had been able to do so. Hence my concern that they had contacted another admin in the interim period using another sock.
- So, are you saying that in the event of the article passing AfC (which I agree is unlikely, but has happened on at least 2 occasions in the last 7 years) then the passing reviewer would then find it impossible to install the article in mainspace due to the protection?
- That would make sense because if the sockmaster had been able to implement the draft into mainspace without using AfC then I've no doubt they would have tried to do so. AfC was presumably a means by which they had hoped to evade the protection.
- However, I'm puzzled by the sock's comment that
It appears the page is unlocked now
. What was the difference between the situations on the 14th and on the 16th? - If you could raise the issue at ANI it would be much appreciated. The links I provided at the draft talkpage give the previous history, particularly the previous ANI thread.
- Many thanks for your help here. Axad12 (talk) 04:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I'm also confused about the whole not able to create the draft then being able to. I'll raise the issue over at ANI and see what comes of it. IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I raised the issue at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase#Draft:Khashayar Farzam as that seemed to be the most appropriate avenue. IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I could start a topic at ANI to request that, it would just take me awhile to write up. For now I think it is probably okay to leave it as I doubt the draft will get past AFC due to notability issues. It appears that the page Khashayar Farzam is protected just not the draft of it. I'm not sure if drafts can or are routinely protected? IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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