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I'm not sure what happened, but it looks like something went wrong when you moved Butyrate fermentation for @Eyele4054 -- it looks like the actual page got deleted somehow and now there are just the redirects. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding the situation, which is entirely possible! :Jay8g [VTE] 06:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! I'll try to fix that. EdJohnston (talk) 16:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, I think. Thanks for your note. EdJohnston (talk) 17:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this an adequate source?

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Greetings EdJohnston,

Recently I was engaged in a discussion with an editor over their use of Youtube videos as media sources within the Machiavelli article, see here. While there is no current dispute and we were able to discuss this amicably, I am still quite unsure about whether or not this is correct seeing Wikipedia's stance on self published sources and on Youtube as a source.

The content in question

the original video


I would greatly appreciate your insight on the matter. Plasticwonder (talk) 02:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The policy that applies is surely WP:RSPYT. I would be more concerned about the value of the citation to the article on Niccolo Machiavelli, since we are not the Latin Wikipedia. Someone reading aloud a letter in Latin to our English-speaking readers won't improve the understanding of the subject by most people. EdJohnston (talk) 02:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your input! Plasticwonder (talk) 03:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I am joining this as the person who posted the video. In general, the utility of original language content is that the person can (with subtitling) get a sense of the content in the original form. They get to know the sound of what someone wrote, the cadence of their style, which is lost in translation. That has utility, I would argue, especially when the person is someone known for their style. IDK if WP has specific guidance on this, but MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE suggests that original language content should appear with English translations. Whether this specific case warrants keeping is another matter and not why I wanted to comment.
What I do need clarity on is whether WP:RSPYT has relevance here, as the video is simply a reading, and the readings are from sourced, clearly indicated and verifiable material. To me, the guidance at WP:RSPYT is out of scope. Jim Killock (talk) 18:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've posted this to the Village pump as I do need clarity on this. Jim Killock (talk) 18:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]