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Welcome to my talk page I use the name Cullen328 on Wikipedia, but you can call me "Jim" because that's my real first name. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" or "Add topic" at the top of this page. I keep the old comments from July and August of 2009 that follow the "Contents" here, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome when I first started editing Wikipedia.
The importance of a friendly greeting
Hello and welcome to my talk page. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" at the top of this page. I keep the comments that follow from July and August of 2009 readily visible, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome here on Wikipedia when I first started editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC
Please offer your thoughts
I would appreciate comments and suggestions on any contributions I make. I am learning.Cullen328 (talk) 03:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nice work on Jules Eichorn. He's been needing an article for a while. Will Beback talk 06:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- If I may suggest, now that you've posted the Eichorn article the draft below might be deleted. It's your talk page to do with as you like, but it's a bit hard to edit around.
- As for formatting and pictures, a good way to learn is to look around at other articles to see what you think looks best. It can be helpful to break up long blocks of text into subsections. Perhaps it'd be possible to split the biography into two or three eras. Other than that, the formatting is usually kept fairly plain. As for photos, it's easy to upload them: the trick is in finding photos with appropriate licensing. If you have any personal photos then those'd be fine. There are might be pictures of the peaks he did first ascents on in the Wikicommons. File:Cathedral Peak.png is a so-so pic of Eichorn Pinnacle.
- As before, feel free to ask if you have any questions. There are several editors here who are mountaineers or just admirers of the Sierra, so you're in good company. Will Beback talk 21:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- PS: Many editors create "sandbox" pages for drafting articles. For example, User talk:Cullen328/Sandbox. Will Beback talk 00:17, 1 August 2009
Your climber biographies
Hey Jim, just wanted to say welcome and thanks for your contributions to the Sierra Nevada climbing history articles. You're filling a niche that's been missing here, I look forward to working with you. --Justin (talk) 11:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll second that. Nice work on Allen Steck and welcome to Wikipedia. I don't know who you are planning to write up next but if your taking requests I think Peter Croft (climber) could really use a page. If you ever have any questions please ask. Thanks again for your great additions.--OMCV (talk) 02:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Justin and OMCV. I am beginning work on Tom Frost and Glen Dawson. Comments on Norman Clyde would be welcomed. I will defintely read up on Peter Croft, OMCV. I am still "learning the ropes" in Wikipedia, to use a climbing analogy, and have all sorts of things in mind. My biggest challenge right now is getting permission to use images. My next biggest challenge is hiking to the top of Mt. Whitney with my wife in ten days - she's never been above 12,000 feet except for the train ride up Pikes Peak. As she's 56 and developing arthritis in her toes, it will be an accomplishment if she (and I) complete the Class 1 feat. Jim Heaphy (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Debra and I made it to the summit of Mt. Whitney at 2:20 PM on Friday, September 11. Jim Heaphy (talk) 00:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Happy New Year
[edit]Happy New Year 2021 I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
working on a new page
[edit]hello jim, hope you are doing well. i am a beginner on wikipedia but i am auto correction user. i want to write an article on a ngo which is working very good in there respective field. a friend of mine wrote a article on that topic but it got deleted due to less third party source. can you suggest me something how to write an article which won't get deleted, also i have some credible third party source so i want to ask how can i mention them because they are external links. Devanshusharma569 (talk)devanshusharma569
Happy St. Patrick's Day
[edit]Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
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[edit]Request of Help on "Just the Facts" Tone
[edit]Hi Jim,
I am very new to Wikipedia. I got your feedback on the draft article located under PhoCoHaNoi. Thanks so much for your comments. I would greatly appreciate if you would spare some valuable time to highlight those parts from the draft that I need to pay close attentions to regarding the aspect that you raised. I know it would be a long shot to ask if you would even consider providing specific examples by directly editing them on the draft.
Lastly, I still do not know on how to submit the revision for review. I do not see any obvious buttons or pull-down menus from the Sandbox setting that would be able to allow to submit the article for review.
Thank you so much.
PhoCoHaNoi
- Hello, PhoCoHaNoi. I am not going to edit the draft myself, because I want this to be a learning exercise for you. Here are a few examples of unacceptable wording:
- "celebrating the 73-year history of outstanding men and women"
- "pioneering contributions"
- "sustained leadership and strategic vision"
- "Exceptional services to innovation ecosystem"
- "stimulating small business innovation, meeting the Air Force and DoD R&D needs, broadening participation in innovation and entrepreneurship, and boosting commercialization"
- " So, as Dr. Pham looked back now, he brought systems-theoretic science and control engineering principles, together with teamwork and interdisciplinary to bear fruition in solving warfighter engineering problems, various areas of specific focus for increased activities in space control autonomy and space domain awareness."
- It is not the job of a Wikipedia editor (you) to praise a person. Every trace of this non-neutral language must be removed. A Wikipedia article should never say "Person A is great!" Instead, it should say "Reliable source C reports that Expert B says that Person A is great", along with a reference to Reliable source C.
- As for how to submit your draft, I will explain that when the draft complies with the neutral point of view. Cullen328 Let's discuss it
Sending Messages to Other Editors
[edit]Hi Jim. I will deeply appreciate anything that you can do to help. How can I find out about other editors and send them messages? I recently looked for an article about The Italian Coffee Company that I had read years ago. However, I could not find it. I believe that this article should be available. I am a new editor and I have a big learning curve ahead of me. Maybe you can post to my talk page. I am user Mojosa17. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Invitation to Local Wikimania Event in San Francisco this Friday
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Debate to delete a Category
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Protection of Dave Plummer?
[edit]Hi Cullen328, can I ask you why you protected Dave Plummer again? There has been exactly one edit since the previous protection lapsed and it doesn't seem to have been a problem. Counterfeit Purses (talk) 19:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Counterfeit Purses, a long term abuser has been inserting violations of WP:BLP policy into that article for years, namely calling him a criminal even though he has never been convicted of a crime. Shortly after the last semi-protection expired, contentious editing resumed although it has not yet risen to the level of calling him a criminal. The unreferenced assertion that a business he owned was selling scareware is not appropriate. There is a post at WP:BLPN#Dave Plummer Troll Yet Again that includes links to extensive past discussions of the problems with this article, and I believe that continuing the semi-protection is justified in this case. Cullen328 (talk) 20:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- The only reason I have this article on my watchlist is because I participated in this ANI discussion earlier this year. The whole "Dave Plummer troll" theory seems to be quite overblown. As for the use of the word "scareware", please see Scareware#Legal action. Softwareonline was the name of Dave Plummer's company. I have no idea if Guy Macon Alternate Account has some personal interest in this, but their efforts to manage Plummer's reputation are disrupting normal editing of that article. Counterfeit Purses (talk) 22:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Counterfeit Purses, I think that your accusatuon that Guy Macon, a highly experienced editor of long duration, is engaged in reputation management is incorrect and unfair. I believe that he is standing up for our essential policy on biographies of living people, which is an obligation of every editor. I have not always agreed with that editor but I do agree with regards to Plummer. We simply cannot allow the fact that Plummer settled a civil lawsuit be used to justify repeated attempts to call him a criminal on Wikipedia, or to slime him 18 years later. The civil lawsuit and settlement is already described in the article. And per WP:CIRCULAR, we simply cannot use the fact that Plummer's company is mentioned in scareware to add that term to his biography without a reference to a reliable source that uses that term. I do not use monikers like "Dave Plummer troll" but I have no doubt whatsoever that there is one highly motivated individual with a longstanding grudge against Plummer who cares nothing about Wikipedia's BLP policy, and who has tried and will try to make Plummer look as bad as possible. Semi-protection is not an onerous burden since anyone except blocked or banned editors can register an account, make ten or more productive edits over four days, and then edit the article. You can edit the article. In the mean time, any new editor is free to make well-referenced, policy compliant edit requests at Talk: Dave Plummer. So, I believe that my decision to continue the semi-protection is well within my discretion as an administrator. If you disagree, then please feel free to make a request to remove the semi-protection at WP:RFPP. Cullen328 (talk) 23:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- The only reason I have this article on my watchlist is because I participated in this ANI discussion earlier this year. The whole "Dave Plummer troll" theory seems to be quite overblown. As for the use of the word "scareware", please see Scareware#Legal action. Softwareonline was the name of Dave Plummer's company. I have no idea if Guy Macon Alternate Account has some personal interest in this, but their efforts to manage Plummer's reputation are disrupting normal editing of that article. Counterfeit Purses (talk) 22:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Request page issue
[edit]Hi Admin, This is urgent. The newly created article titled The Miss Globe is a copy of Miss Globe International, which is my revised version of the main article. I arranged the winners' list and other details, and now Mrcarillo has copied my version to create a new, separate page. As you can see, all the information in his creation is identical to the original article, which doesn't make sense. This is concerning, as it goes against Wikipedia's standards. This page should be deleted, not just merged, since it's a direct copy of the original, with all content duplicated from top to bottom. Thank you. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Rc ramz. The two versions are not identical. One has two paragraphs and one chart, and the other has seven paragraphs and three charts. Please discuss this matter with Mrcarillo first. I want to hear both sides of the story. Cullen328 (talk) 02:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- But all of the content he used was simply copied from my original research, from the lead article to the references, including my phrasing in the titleholders' definitions. This was my edit, and the article should not be separated. Miss Globe International was originally one pageant before it split, with one version eventually dissolving while The Miss Globe pageant continued. Since The Miss Globe is the pageant that continued and owns the entirety of the brand, the article should remain with it as well. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I’m also the one who arranged the titleholders, winners, and tables. Just look at the edit summary in the main article—it’s my work and research. Every word in the new article was simply copied from my original content. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, original research is forbidden by policy. Did you mean something else? Also, no editor owns the content we write on Wikipedia and it can be re-used by anyone. This seems to be a disagreement about a splitting. Please begin by discussing it with the other editor. Cullen328 (talk) 02:46, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- this was a Copy-paste article creation 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, then the editor needs to be informed about how to properly attribute copied and pasted content. Please do so helpfully. Cullen328 (talk) 02:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- The page was part of the primary article, and there is no need to create a new one since it doesn’t cover a broad scope. The history should remain in a single article. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is your opinion and your assessment of the situation. I have asked you to discuss the matter in a friendly and helpful fashion with the other editor. This is Wikipedia 101. Please have that conversation before returning to my talk page. I want to hear both sides of the story. I have little patience for squabbling about beauty pageants. Cullen328 (talk) 03:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have already informed him and discussed this on his talk page. The article he created is already part of the Miss Globe International topic. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 03:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is your opinion and your assessment of the situation. I have asked you to discuss the matter in a friendly and helpful fashion with the other editor. This is Wikipedia 101. Please have that conversation before returning to my talk page. I want to hear both sides of the story. I have little patience for squabbling about beauty pageants. Cullen328 (talk) 03:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- this was a Copy-paste article creation 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, original research is forbidden by policy. Did you mean something else? Also, no editor owns the content we write on Wikipedia and it can be re-used by anyone. This seems to be a disagreement about a splitting. Please begin by discussing it with the other editor. Cullen328 (talk) 02:46, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I’m also the one who arranged the titleholders, winners, and tables. Just look at the edit summary in the main article—it’s my work and research. Every word in the new article was simply copied from my original content. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- But all of the content he used was simply copied from my original research, from the lead article to the references, including my phrasing in the titleholders' definitions. This was my edit, and the article should not be separated. Miss Globe International was originally one pageant before it split, with one version eventually dissolving while The Miss Globe pageant continued. Since The Miss Globe is the pageant that continued and owns the entirety of the brand, the article should remain with it as well. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 02:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Sosoconnect (06:00, 4 November 2024)
[edit]Hello Cullen 328, I am glad to have you as my Wikipedia mentor. I want to learn practical ways on how to cite links, books as references in an article.
Thank you. --Sosoconnect (talk) 06:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Sosoconnect. I see that you are a new editor and so I want to say Welcome to Wikipedia . The basic principle is that you should only cite sources that are considered reliable. New editors often have a hard time making this distinction, but is is based on professional editorial control, a general reputation for accuracy and a willingness to correct errors. As for the technical methods to cite various types of reliable sources, please take a look at Wikipedia:Citation templates. Cullen328 (talk) 07:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Let me add, Sosoconnect, that if you have any other questions about editing, please do not hesitate to ask me. I hope that editing Wikipedia gives you the sort of genuine idealistic self-satisfaction that I have enjoyed for over 15 years. But there are policies and guidelines. Those who understand them and have a internalized them can be successful on Wikipedia. Those who haven't, often encounter problems. I hope that you are in the first group. Cullen328 (talk) 08:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks, I really appreciate. Sosoconnect (talk) 20:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Let me add, Sosoconnect, that if you have any other questions about editing, please do not hesitate to ask me. I hope that editing Wikipedia gives you the sort of genuine idealistic self-satisfaction that I have enjoyed for over 15 years. But there are policies and guidelines. Those who understand them and have a internalized them can be successful on Wikipedia. Those who haven't, often encounter problems. I hope that you are in the first group. Cullen328 (talk) 08:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from PatrioticMuslimBangladeshi (08:27, 5 November 2024)
[edit]How do I change the title of an article? (E.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych_(politician,_born_1981) ) --PMB (talku|) 08:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, PatrioticMuslimBangladeshi. The procedure to change the title of an article is called moving. Your account to too new to do this. You can ask at Wikipedia:Requested moves instead. Cullen328 (talk) 16:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. PMB (talk) 08:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Question about new topic in AE
[edit]To follow rules properly, I want to ask if I can create new topic at AE regarding my appeal if I want some of my comments to be noticed? Shahray (talk) 09:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Shahray, you have an open appeal at AE. In my opinion, it would be a bad idea for you to start another conversation there. Cullen328 (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cullen328, admins didn't address apologies Ive given and my proposal to do zero reverts, I want them to be noticed to clarify that this ban is not necessary for me. Commenting at first appeal is useless, as my comments aren't seen by others, so what should I do in that case, close my first appeal and create additional one? Shahray (talk) 20:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Shahray, your assumption
my comments aren't seen by others
is incorrect. AE is high visibility and what you say there is read by many administrators, whether or not they choose to comment. Do not close the appeal yourself. Leave that to someone else. Cullen328 (talk) 20:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC)- @Cullen328 none of the admins responded, you haven't responded either. So this is the conclusion I make. So if it is closed, can I make another one? Shahray (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC) would
- Shahray, administrators are not obligated to respond to points they find unconvincing. Your appeal is still open. Starting another appeal at this time would be unwise, in my opinion. Cullen328 (talk) 22:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cullen328, my willingness to not revert and seek consensus among community are not convincing? Can I change the initial statement in my appeal to another one that will address this? Shahray (talk) 09:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Shahray, you can add to your initial statement but changing it would be considered deceptive and disruptive. Once you have said something and other editors have responded to what you said, you should not change anything, except for correcting inconsequential typographical errors like changing "teh" to "the". Cullen328 (talk) 10:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cullen328, am I fully allowed to create another appeal after first one is closed? Shahray (talk) 11:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Shahray, you can add to your initial statement but changing it would be considered deceptive and disruptive. Once you have said something and other editors have responded to what you said, you should not change anything, except for correcting inconsequential typographical errors like changing "teh" to "the". Cullen328 (talk) 10:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cullen328, my willingness to not revert and seek consensus among community are not convincing? Can I change the initial statement in my appeal to another one that will address this? Shahray (talk) 09:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Shahray, administrators are not obligated to respond to points they find unconvincing. Your appeal is still open. Starting another appeal at this time would be unwise, in my opinion. Cullen328 (talk) 22:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cullen328 none of the admins responded, you haven't responded either. So this is the conclusion I make. So if it is closed, can I make another one? Shahray (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC) would
- Shahray, your assumption
- @Cullen328, admins didn't address apologies Ive given and my proposal to do zero reverts, I want them to be noticed to clarify that this ban is not necessary for me. Commenting at first appeal is useless, as my comments aren't seen by others, so what should I do in that case, close my first appeal and create additional one? Shahray (talk) 20:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Shahray, your appeal has been declined. Filing another one immediately would be a bad idea, in my opinion. Cullen328 (talk) 18:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Notice of a discussion I think you'd be interested in knowing about
[edit]Hey Cullen, I thought you might want to be aware of this discussion|this discussion (which includes not just the linked to thread, but a much larger one further above on VP/WMF). In summary, it appears that the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information about volunteers in a controversial Indian court case, where a news agency is attempting to suppress Wikipedia's tertiary coverage of the content of secondary sources (which it considers unflattering) by going after Wikipedia and a number of its individual editors as defendants. In order to comply with court orders in the case, it seems the WMF is prepared to share this information in what a number of us consider a pretty seismically bad idea and a betrayal of community priorities and values (the WMF has also already used an office action to remove an article reporting on the case, at the direction of the court for what said court regards as legitimate sub judice reasons).
While the deletion of the article has been framed by the WMF as temporary step to preserve appeal on the overall case, and there are mixed feelings in the community response as to that so far, there is a much more uniform opposition to throwing the individual editors (at least one of whom is located in India and has profound apprehension about what this could mean for his life with regard to litigation and beyond). And yet the WMF appears to be prepared to share the information in question, as soon as Nov. 8. Can I impose upon you to take a look at the matter and share your perspective? SnowRise let's rap 00:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, Snow Rise. I read what you wrote, but to be honest, my mental energy is focused on another important matter right now. I am opposed to releasing PII to that court, but I want to have a clear head so that what I write is more than a platitude. Cullen328 (talk) 00:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is, of course, completely understandable. I hope your other matter resolves favourably in time for you to contribute something; your voice carries a lot of weight for many of us in this community, for good reason. But, as always, best wishes regardless! SnowRise let's rap 00:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Botox.neet (02:30, 12 November 2024)
[edit]Hey.. how can i add bullet ponts --Botox.neet (talk) 02:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Botox.neet, use the asterisk. Shift+8. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Botox.neet. The shorcut to the instructions is WP:BULLET. Cullen328 (talk) 02:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from PatrioticMuslimBangladeshi (10:19, 12 November 2024)
[edit]How do I cite things? I added the Hasina-Zelenskyy meeting information in the page "Bangladesh-Ukraine Relations", and I tried to cite it, but I was confused about what to do, so I wrote "Source:" and then added the sources, all in parentheses. --PMB (talk) 10:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, PatrioticMuslimBangladeshi. Please read Referencing for beginners. Cullen328 (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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- I already took that survey. Cullen328 (talk) 01:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Request page protection
[edit]November 2024
Hi, Admin, I need your help to request protection for the page El Tocuyo, a city in Venezuela. It appears that rampant vandalism has disrupted the article. Additionally, a new section about "El Tocuyo Awards" has been added. While there may be verified sources for this section, the content is not aligned with the page’s purpose. The section focuses on a beauty pageant-related topic, which is not relevant to an article about a geographical location. This content should ideally be separated into its own article. To provide some background, the "El Tocuyo Award" emerged during Miss Universe 2016, when Miss Venezuela, Mariam Habach, failed to place despite being a strong candidate. In pageant parlance, "el tocuyo" refers to a frontrunner who unexpectedly fails to advance in a competition. In local gay slang, this is described as a candidate going from highly favored to becoming a "luz valdez." The term originated after Habach, who hails from the town of El Tocuyo, was eliminated. Since then, pageant fans have used the term to describe similar occurrences. I believe the "El Tocuyo Awards" topic should have its own page to avoid confusion and maintain the integrity of the article about the city. Thank you for your attention to this matter. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 18:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Rc ramz. I see no recent vandalism. The beauty pageant-related content is not vandalism. Vandalism is a deliberate attempt to damage the encyclopedia. This is a content dispute, and the proper place to discuss it is at Talk:El Tocuyo. So, I will not protect that article. Cullen328 (talk) 23:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Admin, I recently deleted the pageant related El Tocuyo Awards as per MOS:SCOPE. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, yes, I already noticed that. But above, you wrote
This content should ideally be separated into its own article
. What steps have you taken to preserve this beauty pageant-related content? Cullen328 (talk) 08:44, 16 November 2024 (UTC)- Rc ramz, please also explain why you have thusfar failed to explain your concerns at Talk:El Tocuyo like I recommended above? Do you object to article talk page discussion? Cullen328 (talk) 08:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- I do have plans to rewrite to have separate page but as of the moment I gather as much information, references for the said article and maybe publish under stub-class since yes it was in the category of beauty pageant but its like the hoaxes or the right term was PARODY in beauty pageant. And because as of the moment I work 2 to 4 articles mostly editions and main one. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 09:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- I already did 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 09:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, please also explain why you have thusfar failed to explain your concerns at Talk:El Tocuyo like I recommended above? Do you object to article talk page discussion? Cullen328 (talk) 08:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, yes, I already noticed that. But above, you wrote
- Hello, Admin, I recently deleted the pageant related El Tocuyo Awards as per MOS:SCOPE. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Clarification Regarding Los Olvidados Page and Security Concerns
[edit]Hello Cullen328
I wanted to clarify a few things and seek your help regarding the Los Olvidados (punk band) page. I have been working on improving that page, but I noticed that my edits were recently reverted. Upon reflection, I believe the edits I made were legitimate, and I was attempting to replace the redirect with accurate content that reflects the band's history and contributions. Could you please provide further clarification on the issue?
Additionally, I’ve noticed some suspicious activity related to my account, and I wanted to make you aware of it. It seems there may have been some edits made that weren’t from me, which could indicate a potential security breach. I have since updated my password and taken other measures to secure my account.
Could you kindly assist me in understanding the situation and help ensure that my edits can be reviewed and restored appropriately? I appreciate your guidance in moving forward.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Best regards,
ATXHustle ATXHustle (talk) 22:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, ATXHustle. Your edit about the punk band was entirely unreferenced, which violates Verifiability, a core content policy. Content like
Known for their raw energy and biting social commentary, they carved out a unique space in the underground punk scene of the Bay Area
raises the question, who says so? That type of writing violates another core content policy, the Neutral point of view. Which edits from your account were not made by you? Cullen328 (talk) 22:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Dave Plummer
[edit]The quack I am hearing is a lot like the quack of the Dave Plummer Troll, especially the assumption that a press release by a prosecutor is a reliable source establishing guilt, but for some strange reason a press release by a defense attourney isn't a reliable source for the person being innocent. Do you think a topic ban would be apopropriate here? -Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 03:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Guy Macon Alternate Account. The reference added was a Forbes article not a press release. I do not see the relevance of a defense attorney's press release to this specific matter at this time, though I am aware that you have made that defense attorney's press release argument several times. The glaring weakness of the Forbes piece is that is it is almost entirely about another company and mentions one of Plummer's companies in passing at the very end. To me, the fundamental BLP issue that is of great concern to me is the ongoing attempts to portray Plummer as a criminal. I am prepared to block any editor who tries that. But the recent edits do not try to do that. I am 100% in favor of your pursuit of accuracy but to be frank, I do not consider conflating of a Plummer owned .com with a Plummer owned LLC to be anywhere near as significant and problematic as attempts to call Plummer a criminal. So, I need better evidence of current ongoing disruption to start handing out blocks and topic bans, not one mediocre edit nearly two weeks after I semi-protected the article. Cullen328 (talk) 05:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I will try to adjust my hair trigger to be less sensative (smile). --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
RevDel request
[edit]Hi Cullen - seeing as you appear to be actively editing, would you be willing to RevDel the two edits that I reverted from the page history at Ellie Carpenter? A new account posted inappropriate images to this BLP, and I believe deleting the revisions is warranted. Thank you. Altamel (talk) 07:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for reporting this, Altamel. I have revision deleted the two edits and indefinitely blocked the editor. What a creep. Cullen328 (talk) 08:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. I have also tagged the editor's uploads on Commons for CSD; hopefully the admins over there delete it soon. Altamel (talk) 08:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I noticed your tagging, Altamel, and also hope that the image gets deleted promptly. Cullen328 (talk) 08:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. I have also tagged the editor's uploads on Commons for CSD; hopefully the admins over there delete it soon. Altamel (talk) 08:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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User:Mackeyedits keeps making the same exact edits (adding uncited membership information about their organization, the Machapunga Tribe of North Carolina, which only has a Facebook page with 15 followers) to the Machapunga page. Back in September, you said you could semi-protect if problems persisted, which now they have. I pinged you on the talk page a couple of days ago. Is there anything that can be done about User:Mackeyedits? Thanks for your time. Yuchitown (talk) 18:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Yuchitown. Since the editor is close to being autoconfirmed, I do not think that semi-protection would help much. Instead, I pageblocked Mackeyedits from Machapunga, although the editor is free to make edit requests at Talk: Machapunga. Sorry that I did not respond to your ping. I was unusually busy at that time. Cullen328 (talk) 19:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries! Thanks so much. Yuchitown (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from AnastasisTime on User:AnastasisTime (19:29, 23 November 2024)
[edit]How can i create a site --AnastasisTime (talk) 19:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, AnastasisTime. What do you mean by a "site"? If you are asking how to write a Wikipedia article, then please read and study Your first article. It is challenging for a new editor. Cullen328 (talk) 21:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps you neglected to mark the unblock request here as accepted? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 19:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done, Jpgordon. Explaining my reasoning to the editor and at ANI was my first priority. Cullen328 (talk) 20:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- OK! I just sometimes forget such things. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
How do I create my own article about a rapper? --S31banko (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, S31banko. Spend several weeks making edits to improve existing articles, and learning how Wikipedia works. Study articles about other rap and hip hop performers that are rated Good articles and Featured articles to see how they are referenced and written, and what will be expected of you.
- Examples of Good articles include Kendrick Lamar and Sean Combs and Positive Black Soul and Beyoncé and Chief Keef and Alesha Dixon and DJ Kool Herc and Dr. Dre and Drake (musician) and Eazy-E and Lauryn Hill and Kesha and Lil Ugly Mane and M.I.A. (rapper) and Sharissa and Timbaland and Vanilla Ice.
- Featured articles, which are our very best, include Aaliyah and The Notorious B.I.G. and DJ AM. You should strive for the quality of these articles, and in particular, you should pay attention to the references to the reliable sources at the end of each of those articles. The references are the backbone of an acceptable article.
- Read and study Your first article. You can start assembling a list of published reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to the rapper in question. Referencing for beginners explains how to properly format them. Once you have assembled your references, you can start writing prose that summarizes them. Good luck. Cullen328 (talk) 06:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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Request page protection
[edit]Hi Admin, good day. I'm writing this letter to request protection for the page on Miss Planet International, as it has been targeted by vandals who are repeatedly making disruptive edits. To provide some context, the competition was recently held and has become a controversial topic. This is especially due to reports of contestants physically hurting each other during the event, stemming from misunderstandings. Some individuals from other countries have made unconstructive edits, such as changing "Indonesia" to "Indognesia" (a derogatory term). Miss Planet International has become a focal point of their frustrations, particularly following the announcement of a new titleholder. Unfortunately, I am unable to undo the recent unconstructive edits as I do not have the necessary permissions. While I have managed to address some edits, it is very challenging when multiple vandals work together. Even when I tag the page as "in use" to avoid edit conflicts, they seem to disregard it. I have also left warnings on their talk pages, but they do not seem to take them seriously. Thank you for your assistance. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 18:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Rc ramz. I do not see enough recent vandalism to justify protection. You need to start using edit summaries so that an administrator can investigate what caused you to "revert vandalism" for example. Provide a diff of the "Indognesia" vandalism and I will either warn or block that editor. Please be aware that I will be editing less often in the next few days because of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States. Cullen328 (talk) 20:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, here's the recent edit about the "Indognesia" dog a a deregatory term among pageant fans to certain country by unregistered account. Thank you admin for ur urgent response, greatly appreciated. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, I have indefinitely blocked that IP from editing Miss Planet International. Cullen328 (talk) 03:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you admin for taking action and keep things under control regarding this edits matter. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 04:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Admin as of now its so frustrating that when I currently checked the page again vandals started again you can check it yourself and the page is now distorted in titleholder section to edition and its like the unregistered account playing to make it fun and I'm not going to revert that now as I don't have the power to do so you can decide of what's the solution whether to protect it or not just to avoid unregistered account from disrupting the page... even the citation I provided with Indonesia has been deleted which from IDN Times an Indonesian news media outlet...hope you can help again in this matter. Thank you. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 06:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- The editors has frustrations about the results that it was rigged and in pageant terminology "cooking show" so they are editing without knowing the rules and policies here in Wikipedia and what this community stands for... 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 06:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, you do have the ability to revert disruptive edits to the article. Simply go to the article history, find the most recent OK version, click on that and save it. Problem solved. As for me, I have ZERO interest in beauty pageants and have no idea what rigging and "cooking show" actually means in this context although it sounds like cheating. I assume that various forms of cheating are commonplace in this type of event rife with boosterism, promotionalism and sexualization. As an adminstrator, I will help prevent vandalism and disruptive editing. As an ordinary editor, I do not care about beauty pageants in the slightest, so please do not expect me to get involved with the content. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- ok thank you I'll do that. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:09, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Winner of Miss Planet International 2024 is United Arab Emirates while Indonesia was awarded the newly added title "Miss Angel Planet 2024". 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, you do have the ability to revert disruptive edits to the article. Simply go to the article history, find the most recent OK version, click on that and save it. Problem solved. As for me, I have ZERO interest in beauty pageants and have no idea what rigging and "cooking show" actually means in this context although it sounds like cheating. I assume that various forms of cheating are commonplace in this type of event rife with boosterism, promotionalism and sexualization. As an adminstrator, I will help prevent vandalism and disruptive editing. As an ordinary editor, I do not care about beauty pageants in the slightest, so please do not expect me to get involved with the content. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- The editors has frustrations about the results that it was rigged and in pageant terminology "cooking show" so they are editing without knowing the rules and policies here in Wikipedia and what this community stands for... 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 06:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, I have indefinitely blocked that IP from editing Miss Planet International. Cullen328 (talk) 03:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, here's the recent edit about the "Indognesia" dog a a deregatory term among pageant fans to certain country by unregistered account. Thank you admin for ur urgent response, greatly appreciated. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
contestants physically hurting each other
– So my dream of avideo game featuring an intercaste beauty pageant in which contestants beat on one another with folding chairs in a ring
[1] is actually beginning to come true! EEng 20:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- EEng, my one foray into editing about professional wrestling was to expand Dick the Bruiser, who I knew about as a child. Check out what happened at Madison Square Garden on November 19, 1957. I do not know if any beauty queens were involved. Cullen328 (talk) 20:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- At 261 pounds it's hard to see how much more he could be expanded. EEng 03:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- EEng, my one foray into editing about professional wrestling was to expand Dick the Bruiser, who I knew about as a child. Check out what happened at Madison Square Garden on November 19, 1957. I do not know if any beauty queens were involved. Cullen328 (talk) 20:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Beware, EEng. I am 6'-3" and pushing 250 pounds. Fortunately, I have more teeth than DtB. Cullen328 (talk)
- As for the Detroit venue, EEng, I saw the Rolling Stones perform at Olympia Stadium in Detroit on November 24, 1969. I was a 17 year old hippie. Cullen328 (talk) 03:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Beware, EEng. I am 6'-3" and pushing 250 pounds. Fortunately, I have more teeth than DtB. Cullen328 (talk)
November music
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I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday's, and it was good. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, may your friend's memory be for a blessing. I am sorry for your loss. Cullen328 (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, and I am sure his memory is. The loss is harder for his family. The granddaughter (age 2) was a blessing throughout the ceremony. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Protected Teahouse
[edit]Hello, Jim. I saw that you were a host on the Teahouse, and that you were open for questions. I am a new user, and had a few questions about this.
First, when talking about pseudoscience, do we say that it is false, or that it is unscientific? Though they seem similar, they are not the same. I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that Wikipedia asks you not to say pseudoscience is objectively false but rather it is rejected by most scientists.
Next question: why is the teahouse protected? I apologize if this seems like a complaint, but it is supposed to be for new users, who cannot access it once it is protected. Is there a way to reverse this, or at least ask the question somewhere else?
Thank you so much. I would really appreciate your answers. Lenderthrond (talk) 00:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Lenderthrond. Wikipedia articles summarize what the preponderance of reliable sources say about a topic. So, if reliable sources extensively say that some notion is false, then so too will the Wikipedia article. If reliable sources extensively say that some notion is unscientific, then so too will the Wikipedia article. Maybe both. If reliable sources disagree, then the Wikipedia article will reflect and summarize that disagreement.
- As for the semi-protection of the Teahouse, that is sad but necessary. The current semi-protection lasts only six hours. The fact of the matter is that there is a highly motivated troll operating in the past few months who despises Wikipedia as a whole and a certain group of administrators, including me, in particular. That group has been subject to very frequent and intense and dedicated profane attacks including death threats and lengthy diatribes for months. I have a very thick skin and can separate credible death threats from deranged ranting. Other victims may lack those skills. It is very disruptive. This pathetic person uses the Teahouse and various administrative noticeboards for maximum visibility, necessitating semi-protection. I wish this person would get another hobby or get therapy, but as long as they continue their attacks, brief semi-protection will be required from time to time. Cullen328 (talk) 03:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response! Lenderthrond (talk) 18:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Request for professional assistance
[edit]Hello Jim! I have drafted an article (my first ever) and have been advised that the draft needs substantial changes made (fair enough). How can I engage your services? Kind regards, Stephen Walter Stephen Walter 2024 (talk) 23:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Stephen Walter 2024. This is about Draft:John Haber, which was speedy deleted because the page "seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view". That indicates very serious problems with your draft. As I say on my user page, "I do some training and consulting about editing off-Wikipedia, but do not engage in any paid editing on Wikipedia."
- You should start by reading the Neutral point of view which forbids any promotional editing and Verifiability which requires that content summarize reliable published sources. Also read the notability guideline for people and WP:Your first article. Those links should give you all the information you need. If you believe that you need training and consulting services at that point, contact me off-Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 00:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to provide feedback
[edit]Inspired by Worm That Turned's re-RfA where he noted administrators don't get a lot of feedback or suggestions for improvement, I have decided to solicit feedback. I'm reaching out to you as you are currently one of the users I've selected as part of my recall process. I hope you will consider taking a few moments to fill out my feedback form. Clicking on the link will load the questions and create a new section on my user talk. Thanks for your consideration. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, I expressed my deep concerns to you by email during the Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Admins and being paid to advise on editing discussion, and I have nothing more to say other than what I wrote in those emails. I still feel the same way. Cullen328 (talk) 17:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Cullen. I should have noted that when I left this message as I had not forgotten it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – December 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).
Interface administrator changes
- Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
- Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.
- Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.
- The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
- An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.