Talk:Oxted line/GA1

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Nominator: Mertbiol (talk · contribs) 21:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 09:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead

there is a half-hourly service between London Victoria and East Grinstead, and trains run hourly between London Bridge and Uckfield. -> there is a half-hourly service between London Victoria and East Grinstead, and hourly service between London Bridge and Uckfield. I think this flows better.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Steam haulage on the Oxted line was replaced by diesel traction in 1965. Should this be 1964, as stated in the body? Also, I would say that steam haulage was replaced "by 1964" rather than "in 1964" seeing as it was a multi-year process.

Route

At Hurst Green Junction, south of Hurst Green station, the line divides, with the electrified tracks running to East Grinstead and unelectrified tracks diverging towards Uckfield. This makes it sound like there are three tracks north of Hurst Green Junction. I suggest rewording to At Hurst Green Junction, south of Hurst Green station, the line splits into two, with an electrified branch running to East Grinstead and an unelectrified branch running to Uckfield.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the Uckfield branch was mostly singled south of Hever in 1990. -> the Uckfield branch was mostly converted to single track south of Hever in 1990. I think this would be clearer.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
and interchange is available with the Bluebell Railway at East Grinstead. Add that the Bluebell Railway is a heritage railway.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The station tables shouldn't be collapsed, as per MOS:COLLAPSE.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History

but public services were delayed until 10 March that year -> but public services were delayed until 10 March. The year goes without saying as its mentioned right before.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nevertheless, the first part of the Oxted line was electrified in the mid-1930s, when third rail was installed between Selsdon and Sanderstead stations for the use of trains running via the Woodside and South Croydon line. -> The first part of the Oxted line was electrified in the mid-1930s, when third rail was installed between Selsdon and Sanderstead stations for trains running via the Woodside and South Croydon line.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the paragraph above the Nationalisation (1948–1996) section should be moved into that section, seeing as the paragraph talks about the initial nationalisation.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
with house building to the south of the town centre. I think this fragment is a bit awkward. How about with housing development south of the town centre.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Diesel multiple units were introduced to the Oxted line on 18 June 1962, when the first of nineteen Class 207 units, built specifically for the route, were introduced to peak-hour services.[88][89] Steam-hauled passenger trains were withdrawn on 6 January 1954. Are these dates right? Were the steam-hauled passenger trains withdrawn 8 years before the DMUs were introduced?
fixed Thank you for spotting this. Steam-hauled passenger trains were withdrawn in 1964 not 1954! Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason that sections of the Uckfield branch were single tracked?
I can't find a reliable source, but I understand that track renewals were due on much of the line and it was cheaper to replace one track rather than two. Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
most trains from Uckfield terminated at Oxted and only four per day continued to London. This begs the question of when did most trains from Uckfield start running to London again? Unless I missed where it was mentioned somehow.
I haven't been able to find a reliable source, but I believe that all-day through running to London resumed after the full introduction of the Class 171s in 2004. Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Having searched a bit more, I realise that the date of "mid-2004" for the re-introduction (in a BBC News article that I have already used as a reference). I have added this information. Mertbiol (talk) 17:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Passenger rolling stock

I know that Class 207, Class 171, Class 377 and Class 700 are already linked earlier, but this is a good place to link again under the newish MOS rule that allows for duplicate links.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the Class 205 and Class 207 units had been fitted with blue asbestos insulation panels -> the Class 205 and Class 207 units were fitted with blue asbestos insulation panels
Done Mertbiol (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Freight services

No issues here.

Proposals

No issues here.

Accidents and incidents

Ten of the workers were seriously injured. -> Ten workers were seriously injured.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Many of the sources are print sources, so I will have to assume good faith on those. For the online sources, I did spot checks.
The Oxted line is a railway line in southern England. It links central London and the borough of Croydon with the towns of Oxted, East Grinstead, Edenbridge, Crowborough and Uckfield. The route passes through the counties of Greater London, Surrey, Kent, East Sussex and West Sussex. This needs a source.
Done Mertbiol (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For footnotes 6 and 7, a page number would be more helpful.
I would prefer to continue to use the Line of Route (LOR) numbers (as currently - i.e. "SO530" and "SO540"). The page numbers change every time the document is updated, whereas the LOR always stays the same. Mertbiol (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General

Thank you @Steelkamp: for taking on this review. I have responded to your initial comments Mertbiol (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all my review, so I'm putting this on hold now for you to address everything. Everything that you have ticked off looks good to me, so its just the two comments under Passenger rolling stock and two comments in the source review left to address. Steelkamp (talk) 07:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Steelkamp: I think I have addressed everything. Please let me know if you have any further points. Best wishes Mertbiol (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no further concerns, so I am going to pass the review. Congratulations. Steelkamp (talk) 10:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your review Steelkamp!! Mertbiol (talk) 10:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]