Talk:Corona del Sol High School

Alexis Franco

Should the death of Ms. Alexis Franco be mentioned in this article in any way? It was an on-campus event, after all, and she was apparently a very valued student. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.23.202 (talk) 02:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't an on-campus event. Alexis died of an asthma attack that took place at a private tumbling gym. To quote the Arizona Republic "Alexis Franco, 17, had an asthma attack while practicing gymnastics at Aspire Kids Sport Center in Chandler. She died later that evening. She was a junior and cheerleader at Corona del Sol High School in Tempe."

There is no evidence that this was in any way related to the recent health problems at the school —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eejmastaflex (talk • contribs) 13:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no way that Alexis had any problems related to the school. She had terrible asthma as anyone who knew her would tell you, and she was sick the week before. She also did not pass away at school, she would never ever want anyone to say that she died from complications at Corona. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.206.64 (talk) 22:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Academics

I've undone the changes made by User:Aztec001 as they were, aside from being largely without citation, alarmingly biased and elitist. Making the connection to the school being the best or one of the best in the state based on it having consistently above average scores is a big stretch, especially considering Arizona's average test scores are in the bottom 10 in the country. Please cite an actual ranking. Anecdotal evidence has no place in an encyclopedia, namely that about SAT scores and getting into "good" colleges. Also, the bit about East and South Asians and "more affluent Europeans" has an alarmingly racist connotation. Pkrecker (talk) 00:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't know about the citation, but the part about high test scores compared to the rest of AZ is right, that's one reason I moved to the district (so my kids could attend Corona). I can say our neighborhood is a pretty upscale one, but I wouldn't know how many of the students come from here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.219.213.182 (talk) 22:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

assess

Needs more topics to be a start, its close. Add refs and pics. Welcome 81.178.123.240 08:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Your change was determined to be unhelpful and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Mt2 19:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC) (The school paper, Sunrise, recently published an article about Wikipedia. As a result, many are making edits as jokes. Please stop. )

People were making stupid edits before the newspaper wrote about Wikipedia. At one point, Corona's mascot was the pink panther and the KKK was one of the school's clubs. Not funny. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.162.53.124 (talk) 06:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

Clubs

Is it really necessary to include every club on campus, or even those listed in school newspapers? I believe it should be limited to at least clubs that have been around for one school year - case in point, clubs like Katrina Relief pop up once a year and dissipate later.

Pranks

The school was voted "One of the top five best looking schools" in 2005 for its very attactive students.

There is also a pool on the roof of the large gym.

Is this really necessary? The simple answer is "no," but I suppose the people who think they are being funny will not even be checking this.

However, if they do: Cut it out. You think you are being funny, and it really isn't. Claims about the pool on the third floor have been around for years, no one believes them, there is no need to try and hide it in one of the paragraphs I added.

Cheating?

The administration is likewise confounded by seemingly intractable problems with academic integrity. In November 2005, 92 percent of all Corona students admitted to cheating in a survey by the school newspaper staff, using various methods such as typing notes into calculators and hiding cheat sheets in common everyday items such as hats, pens, and water bottles. Another common method is for students taking an earlier section of a class to memorize test forms and answers for transmission to students taking an afternoon section. The newspaper published interviews with students who testified that they could get away with repeated cheating and that the administration's Honor Code was poorly enforced, concluding that the few publicized instances of teachers actually catching dishonest students were only the tip of the iceberg. Most students, they said, were ingenious enough to avoid detection entirely. Cheating is a morally acceptable practice for many Corona students

How many students were interviewed? Only about a dozen or so. Keep in mind this is a survey by the local school newspaper, not an instance where all 2796 students enrolled in 2005 were questioned. Most teachers at Corona do not allow any of the items mentioned in the article to be on the desk at all during a test. Any student caught with such an item on the desk will fail the test automatically, although some students try to do it while the teacher is not looking. (The school newspaper did document several instances where such students were caught in the act and punished; however, others have been known to get away with it.)

Student testimony tells us that there is definitely a substantial number of students cheating regularly, but we don't know exactly how widespread this is. 92 percent? Maybe, but that seems like an incredibly high number. In order for the newspaper survey to be accurate, over 2500 of the 2900 students would have to be cheating, and without being caught, because we don't see half of Corona students getting punished. Could so many students evade the teachers all at once? It's an open question.

If only a dozen or so were interviewed, stating 92 percent of all Corona students is not the best manner to word the sentence - 92 percent of all Corona students interviewed would have been fine. As it is, this is still something they are taking steps to get under control, lets give them a break. I have no doubts, however, that this years additional iPod ban has something to do with findings reported last year by students.

Actually, about a quarter of the homerooms (equal numbers from all four levels) were surveyed to obtain a representative sample of cheating statistics. The 92 percent statistic was from this survey. Additionally, about a dozen students were individually interviewed on their own personal views on the issue.

Regardless, stating 92 percent of a whole was incorrect. Thank you for the insight on the sampling number, however.

The survey did attempt to be as representative as possible, but obviously there is a margin of error in any survey. While it's statistically unlikely, it is possible that such a survey might be off by a considerable margin.

I understand this, I am trying to point out that it is a fallacy to state 92 percent of a whole when, in fact, it is only a representative sample. That's all, nothing more meant by it.

By the way, the iPod ban had nothing to do with the cheating surveys conducted by the Sunrise newspaper last year. Administrators have repeatedly said that iPods have been forbidden because they are frequently lost or stolen. Parents often called the office complaining, and the CdS administration simply did not want to deal with it anymore.

Though this may have been a high school newspaper poll, it is undeniable that the numbers do reflect something about the ethics of the student population. Cheating is widespread at Corona, and that's coming from a student like me who takes a test behind a boy who writes down all the answers to give to his friends in the next hour. So many people believe copying friends' homework assignments is not cheating. I would even dare say that some of the valedictorians have cheated habitually. So though 92% may seem like an inflated number, I definitely think it reflects Corona.

NPOV/Cocaine statement

Saying that the people of Corona Del Sol are particularly attractive is not NPOV, and not really appropriate for wikipedia.

Additionally, a claim that it has the highest cocaine to student useage in the nation seems rather unlikely. Do you have any sources for this?

Opblaaskrokodil 01:53, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia. Half the stuff about Corona on Wikipedia is fake.

Picture?

Is there a good picture of the school that is usable? A picture of a student who goes to the school is not at all a good picture for an article about the school. Opblaaskrokodil 01:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

• I have taken the liberty of uploading a personal photo of the campus, and adding it to the main page under "Campus." Thank me later. Huelenrite (talk) 16:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oh, and it's a lovely picture...or it would be, if it was there.ReynoldsWrap (talk) 17:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Behavior

"The faculty have been unable to curtail these illegal activities despite their best efforts. Warnings are regularly issued in the parent newsletter, on the morning announcements and posted at the entrance to the dance."

Please examine your information closely. Faculty involvement have significantly decreased the number of illegal activities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.2.24.110 (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

Notability?

What is it exactly that makes this school notable? Is it the large number of clubs? If so, that's cool, but I'm just not seeing it. 声援 -- The Hybrid 06:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Chandler-resident students at Corona del Sol

Do people who live in Chandler, AZ attend Corona del Sol high school? If yes, then this should be mentioned in the article. JackWilliams 05:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Pog team

I don't have a clue what a pog team is, but I noticed that an article on the pog team got created and then speedily deleted as unnotable. I suggest that the information from that article be added to this one. Jordan Brown 14:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Health Concerns

Should we include a section on here that addresses the recent health concerns raised at the school? Such as the cluster of teachers who have contracted brain tumors during their tenure? Or reports of the CO2 quality of the buildings being too high? Is the case of Alexis Franco related? As someone who knew several of the teachers who were diagnosed with brain tumors, several students who succumbed to cancer, and has also contracted cancer myself, I would like some of these issues to be raised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.83.237 (talk) 07:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Mass deleting and editing

Tedder and others have been massively deleting sections on this article and are altering credible information. Please stop. They are deleting sections such as Notable alumni.

I am quoting the guidlines from the article guidelines for (high) schools page[1]

"Notable alumni — Provide a bulleted list of notable alumni with a short description to explain why they are famous." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.101.200 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi IP. You are right, WP:WPSCH/AG does indicate that notability needs to be established. That is done by following the WP:BIO guidelines. A shortcut for that is if the alumni has a wikipedia article about them- in other words, the link should not be red, it should be blue.

The rest of the information I excised was to bring the article in line to the school article guidelines. For instance, every school has most of the same clubs and sports. Wikipedia is not a repository of all information.

Please discuss this here more. Your case is hurt when you edit war on the page, especially when you resort to making personal attacks. tedder (talk) 06:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)