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"do you want mers-el-kebir & algiers to become soviet bases as soon as tomorrow?"

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this line is a quote from general challe's appeal to the french army's french algeria corps challe putsh appeal april 22 1961 Shame On You 10:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

picture

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given that i've yet to hear a mention of the algiers putsch without also hearing mention of de gaulle in his old uniform... wouldn't a picture of that be in order? pauli133 (talk) 12:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not certain (or maybe even: I doubt) that there would be any such image available under a Free licence. Rama (talk) 12:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

De Gaulle’s speech on 23 April

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Could I offer another translation?

“A rebel regime has been set up in Algeria by military coup …. This regime has its front: a quartet of retired generals. It has its backing: a group of officers who are political, determined and fanatical. This group and this quartet have a rough and ready way of doing things. But they only see and understand the nation and the world distorted through their extremism. Their initiative will lead straight to national disaster.… The state will be flouted, the nation insulted, our strength undermined, our status abroad reduced, our standing and our role in Africa endangered. And by whom? Sadly, sadly, sadly, by men whose duty, honour and task in life is to serve and to obey. In the name of France, I order that all means, I say again all means, be used to block these men everywhere until they are crushed. I forbid every French person, and above all every soldier, to obey any order of theirs …. Faced with the disaster threatening the country and the danger hanging over the republic, having taken official advice of the Constitutional Council, of the Prime Minister, of the Chairman of the Senate and of the Chairman of the National Assembly, I have decided to bring into force Article 16 of our Constitution. From today, I am taking, as needs be, the steps that to me seem necessary in the circumstances…. Men and women of France: help me!”

The Lawless One (talk) 11:40, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

explosion of the Nuclear device in Algeria during the putsch

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while the article uses the language

On Tuesday April 25 the French authorities in Paris ordered the explosion of the atomic bomb Gerboise Verte (lit.
green jerboa") in the Sahara as part of a scheduled testing program. The test does not appear to have been affected by the putsch.
Gerboise Verte exploded at 6:05 AM.[12]"


if you look here  :http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/France/FranceOrigin.html

"France continued to use the Reggane site for the next three atmospheric tests. The last of these, on 25 April 1961, was really a low yield "scuttle" of the test device to prevent it from falling into the hands of mutineers during the "Revolt of the Generals", set in motion three days earlier by General Maurice Challe."

and

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/12/french-foreign-legion-expendables

"The situation seemed serious enough to the government in Paris that it ordered the detonation of an atomic bomb at a Saharan test site to keep it from falling into the hands of rogue forces. "

I think it would be worthwhile to modify the language to cite this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patbahn (talkcontribs) 02:53, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Belligerents

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Legion is part of the French army, no need to separate it from France. I deleted Legion icon. Same for Hélie denoix de Saint-Marc, he was a French like all the other putschist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.190.97.85 (talk) 12:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Commentary

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"The following day, President Charles de Gaulle made a famous speech on television, dressed with his 1940s general's uniform (he was 70 years old and long retired from the army) ordering the French people and army to help him."

The bolded portion seems like unnecessary social commentary. I suggest removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.112.109.43 (talk) 14:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]