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March 4

Portal:Current events/2019 March 4

March 4, 2019 (2019-03-04) (Monday) Arts and culture Pope Francis announces the Vatican's historical archives of Pope Pius XII's pontificate (1939–1958) will be accessible to scholars next year, effective 2 March 2020. (Vatican News) (BBC News) Disasters and accidents A helicopter crashes in Central Island National Park, Kenya, killing four American tourists and their Kenyan pilot. (BBC News) A 4.6 magnitude earthquake is felt in central Alberta just before 6 a.m. The epicentre was determined to be just south of Red Deer, and is believed to be the result of tectonic activity east of the Rocky Mountains. No structural damage or injuries are reported, and it is unlikely to cause aftershocks. (Global News) Law and crime Germany says it will amend the German nationality law to strip dual nationals of their citizenship who have fought for foreign militant groups, such as ISIL. (The Local) Cuba–United States relations The Trump administration announces it will allow lawsuits by U.S. citizens against dozens of Cuban companies and other entities concerning property confiscated by the Cuban government. A spokesperson says Cuba's support for Venezuela's incumbent president, Nicolás Maduro, was taken into consideration when the decision was made. (Reuters) United States Special Counsel investigation Newly confirmed Attorney General William Barr announces he will not recuse himself from the special counsel's investigation, per the advice of the Justice Department's ethics officials. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2020 United States presidential election, 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries Former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper announces he is running for the Democratic Party's nomination to be President of the United States in the 2020 presidential election. (CNBC) Cabinet of Donald Trump The United States Department of Justice announces that former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker has resigned from the Department, with his final day in the department having been March 2. He had remained in the Department as a senior counselor to the Associate Attorney General after his stint as acting Attorney General. (AP) Stormy Daniels–Donald Trump scandal, Rupert Murdoch's political activities in the United States The New Yorker reports that Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch prevented the release of a story about hush money which Donald Trump paid to Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election because Murdoch wanted Trump to win the election. (The New Yorker) Canadian Treasury Board President Jane Philpott resigns having lost confidence in the government's handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair. (BBC News) 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis Venezuelan National Assembly-declared interim President Juan Guaidó defies Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro's threats and returns to Venezuela where he is received by tens of thousands of people in Caracas. (Associated Press) Science and technology USB4, Thunderbolt 3, 2019 in science Intel makes Thunderbolt 3 open and royalty-free and gives the specification to USB Implementers Forum, while USB Promoter Group announces the USB4 specification that is based on Thunderbolt 3. USB4 supports 40 Gbps transfer rates and enables the use of multiple data and display protocols simultaneously. (Intel) (USB Promoter Group) (Ars Technica) The World Wide Web Consortium announces that WebAuthn, a standard for password-free logins on the web, is now an official web standard. (VentureBeat)

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(Closed) RD: Juan Corona

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Article: Juan Corona (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the most notorious and "prolifics" serial killers in US history. SirEdimon (talk) 06:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose Some unreferenced parts of the article, such as Juan_Corona#Evidence as well as a quote. Spencer^T•C 15:29, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose multiple [citation needed] tags on this BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Art Hughes (Canadian soccer player)

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Article: Art Hughes (Canadian soccer player) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CSA, PR Peak
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian soccer legend. Article is small, but I updated it fixing all ref issues. --SirEdimon (talk) 06:11, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support Everything looks good. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Incomplete coverage of the subject's life, particularly in Art_Hughes_(Canadian_soccer_player)#Life_and_career. Only 1 single sentence about his life after 1960 up until his death in 2019. Spencer^T•C 15:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Spencer: Please take a second look. I think the notable period spanning 17 years of his soccer career are sufficiently mentioned. I have also add a couple of sentences about this personal life and reorganized the page a bit. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:41, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Weak oppose stricken; thanks for your work in improving the article. I guess my concern is that if he was known for goalscoring, the article would talk about games in which he had a decisive goal (or goals for the national team). Some of the information in the intro could definitely be moved to the "Career" section as well. At the same time, it seems like the information for that may be a lot harder to come by or not exist. For some it may meet minimum standards, but I think our RD articles should have more meat to them: to me, much of the article seems like the Honours section written out in prose. I think that's a good starting point, but to me what makes an RD article of minimum standards worthy of posting is having a little bit more than that. Best, Spencer^T•C 03:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

For an example of what this could look like, the Eric Caldow article nominated below is a good example of what I would consider minimal standards for RD. Spencer^T•C 21:40, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support acknowledging Spencer's concern, but this just about passes the line for me. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support meets minimum RD requirements; marked as ready --DannyS712 (talk) 17:47, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

  Still ready --DannyS712 (talk) 22:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Klaus Kinkel

Article: Klaus Kinkel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German politician. I've given the article a quick tidy and think it meets the minimum standards - Dumelow (talk) 13:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I boldly added myself to the updaters, - remove if I did too little. Meant to nominate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support Looks ready to me.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Yup. Good work on references, Gerda et al. – Sca (talk) 15:08, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Johnny Romano

Article: Johnny Romano (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Cleveland
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support - Well sourced.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine to me. --Jayron32 19:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 23:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Ted Lindsay

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Article: Ted Lindsay (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Hockey Hall of Famer/legend. Andise1 (talk) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose large swaths of text have no obvious reference or source. --Jayron32 18:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose ref improve tagged, and what's going on with the refs that are there??! The Rambling Man (talk) 23:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Per TRM, what is going on with those refs? Black Kite (talk) 23:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Luke Perry

Article: Luke Perry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter Daily Mail
Credits:

• Nominated by CoatCheck (talk · give credit)
• Updated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Beverly Hills, 90210, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Riverdale actor, aged 52, dies shortly after reported stroke. CoatCheck (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality. "-ographies" are not sourced (and see relevant discussion on WT:ITN related to these). --Masem (t) 18:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose, woefully under referenced. Spengouli (talk) 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose ref improve tagged. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

*Oppose vast amounts of the article uncited. Looks OK now. Black Kite (talk) 23:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Not quite there, but much improved. GreatCaesarsGhost 02:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• I'll admit I'm a Wikipedia neophyte and I'm certainly not a fan of Luke Perry, but I want to point out that in my opinion, Wikipedia holds itself forth as a news source by having a prominent feature of the front page called "in the news," and as such, it is very out of touch. Here I find a debate about whether to merely MENTION this celebrity's death centered on the quality of citations in his article. Surprising. The underlying philosophy of the front page is mystifying to me; where can I look to find an explanation of this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cellodont (talk • contribs) 13:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Cellodont: You can read about the purpose of ITN at WP:ITN. In short, ITN is not meant to be a continuously updated news feed, but a means to improve and promote articles about subjects that happen to be in the news. Recent deaths are presumed notable enough to post to the Recent Deaths line, but the quality of the article and update must be acceptable in order to post it. 331dot (talk) 13:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

It is per WP:ITNRD, point 3, Of sufficient quality to be posted on the main page, as determined by a consensus of commenters. Kees08 (Talk) 11:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support Reasonably complete AFAICT, lots of cites, no more maint tags. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support - I believe I fixed all the ref issues.--SirEdimon (talk) 20:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support His death is all over the news, at least in the U.S. The article seems fine and has plenty of citations. PerhapsXarb (talk) 21:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support Referencing has been much improved. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support per above.BabbaQ (talk) 23:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted by User:Paul Erik ([1]) --DannyS712 (talk) 23:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(Removed) Sudanese protests

Article: Sudanese protests (2018–19) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: Most recent events mentioned are 8 days ago. Updates also waning. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Remove stale article, stale news. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Removed, no substantial updates for several days. --Tone 16:06, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Keith Flint

Article: Keith Flint (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ritchie333 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Singer from The Prodigy. Died aged 49. I've cited some of it, but will be AFK for a while now. Black Kite (talk) 12:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support, I've added citations so most of the article is now referenced. I saw the Prodigy at the 1997 V Festival in Chelmsford (although I only stayed for the first few songs) and the sight of them doing "Smack My Bitch Up" to tens of thousands of people is probably something I'll never see again. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• I was at the Leeds version of that (the only year that V had a Leeds show, I think, before it went to Weston Park). It was, indeed, mayhem. Black Kite (talk) 1:08 pm, Today (UTC+0)

• Support RIP Keef. A seminal loss, albeit in a quirky sense. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:04, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support RD. I would also be fine with blurbing the death at 49 of an artist with seven #1 albums. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

  Not a chance, he wasn't transformative, but he did define a micro-genre in the acid house period. Couldn't dance, couldn't sing, but dominated tens of thousands of fans when performing live. A "legend" (especially to those of us who own every single piece of music he was ever involved in) but not a blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

  I'm not going to beat this drum, but I meant the other criteria -- not transformative, but unexpected (at 49, no known illness) death of prominent (the seven #1s) figures. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Obviously I am not a reliable source, but in summer 1997 I recall the Prodigy were the biggest band in the UK, and quite possibly the world and The Fat of the Land was number one both sides of the Atlantic and was universally critically praised. That's pretty much mainstream success. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

In Canada, "Breathe" was hot enough to open up Big Shiny Tunes 2, back when things like alternative music and track order still mattered to young people. But "Firestarter" was only a distant second to that, and I can't name another one despite being reasonably hip and with it (at the time). In fairness, "Breathe" was catchy enough to never leave, so no real need to follow it up with anything. Same deal happened with Blur and (to a lesser extent) The Chemical Brothers. Light years beyond Wide Mouth Mason and Bran Van 3000, but by lofty all-time British invasion standards, not even "in the mix".

As for US air that year, they were up against the single most popular riff Sting ever wrote, fueled by the somber power of recent celebrity death and nostalgia. Then Elton John made even that sound upbeat with his mournful English candlewailing. Even before then, when hot was still cool, America and Canada both generally preferred their spastic movements and vapid lyrics come from the Spice Girls. We even mostly remembered their names (eventually), which I don't think is the case with the guy from Prodigy. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:48, March 4, 2019 (UTC)

• To be fair and I imagine Keith would have been honest about it too, he didn't really write any of those seven number one albums, he was a performer, a front man, but not a Lennon or McCartney for the outfit. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• SupportRD. Article is referenced including the discography. However, I do not support a blurb as Liam Howlett was the band leader of the Prodigy. Capitalistroadster (talk) 13:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Obvious support and a sorry one at that; I could see a blurb, personally, as if not a leader then probably the best well-known/iconic. But not important. ——SerialNumber54129 13:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I think only fans knew Liam was "the brains behind the operation"; to the man in the street, The Prodigy was defined by the scary looking bloke doing a mad dance and shouting in Aldwych tube station. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support - referenced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Posted--Tone 13:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Post posting oppose blurb since some people seem to be suggesting it above; I'll be willing to bet a tidy sum that in almost all tomorrow's papers on both sides of the Atlantic Flint is relegated to a small sidebar beside a giant photograph of Luke Perry. The Prodigy were influential for a brief period to a particular generation but we're not talking the Fall here, let alone the Beatles. ‑ Iridescent 20:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Since a blurb was only mentioned briefly and only RD was posted, your comment is redundant.BabbaQ (talk) 21:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion of a blurb can and often does continue after a RD is posted. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Comment I didn't know Flint had passed until I saw it in the box today. This is why I wanted to reform ITN/DC. Thanks to everyone involved who turned the article around to get it MP ready. It's great when the system works. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:58, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Eric Caldow

Article: Eric Caldow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, The Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by Jmorrison230582 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Rangers and Scotland captain, inducted to the Scottish Football Hall of Fame in 2007. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 16:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose penultimate para of bio is unreferenced. The rest is just about satis. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:54, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support Referenced the paragraph mentioned by TRM. Spencer^T•C 21:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:54, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

March 3

Portal:Current events/2019 March 3

March 3, 2019 (2019-03-03) (Sunday) Disasters and accidents Tornado outbreak of March 3, 2019 At least 23 people are confirmed dead, many are injured, and 10,000 customers are without electricity after several tornadoes strike Lee County in southeast Alabama. (Fox News) (BBC News) After heavy snowfall, avalanches close Interstate 70 and three Copper Mountain passes in Summit County, Colorado. (KCNC-TV) Politics and elections 2019 Estonian parliamentary election Jüri Ratas, incumbent Prime Minister of Estonia, and his party gets second place in the election, while opposition leader Kaja Kallas's Estonian Reform Party gets the largest number of votes, and the right-wing Conservative People's Party doubles in seats. (BBC News) 2019 Italian Democratic Party leadership election Governor of Lazio, Nicola Zingaretti, wins the leadership election by a landslide, defeating Maurizio Martina and Roberto Giachetti, and becoming the new Secretary of the Democratic Party. (The Guardian) National Emergency Concerning the Southern Border of the United States Senator Rand Paul is expected to vote against Donald Trump’s national emergency. (The Hill) Science and technology 2019 in spaceflight SpaceX's unmanned spacecraft Dragon 2 successfully docks with the International Space Station (ISS) for the first time. (BBC News) (NASA Spaceflight) Sports 2019 in tennis, 2019 Roger Federer tennis season, Open Era tennis records – men's singles Roger Federer wins the 2019 Dubai Tennis Championships, his 100th ATP singles title overall, defeating Stefanos Tsitsipas, 6–4, 6–4, in the final. Federer became the second male tennis player in the Open Era after Jimmy Connors to win 100 ATP singles titles. (ATP Tour)

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2019 Estonian parliamentary election

Articles: 2019 Estonian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag) and Kaja Kallas (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kaja Kallas (pictured) is elected as first female Prime Minister of Estonia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Estonian elections, the Reform Party (Chairwoman Kaja Kallas pictured) maintains a plurarity in parliament.
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by 159.53.174.140 (talk · give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 159.53.174.140 (talk) 20:08, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The articles are not ready. But I have suggested some blurbs. This is very news worthy but let's fix the articles. If we want Blurb1, we have to wait for the formation of a new government which I suspect is imminent.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
• Commentary - I've been watching this article for sometime now waiting for something to happen. I didn't nominate it exactly because nothing did happen yet. Blurb1 is not true. Altblurb is not news worthy.--SirEdimon (talk) 00:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

  Waiting for what? The results are in, and they are ITNR. Only the quality of the article is up for discussion. Established consensus is that we post the election, not the formation of a government. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:23, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is a chart farm, with stub-level text if we remove all the tables. Would need a massive expansion with full referencing to be main page ready. --Jayron32 13:29, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) Disappearance of Tom Ballard and Daniele Nardi

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Article: Tom Ballard (climber) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 100,000 euros is raised to search for Tom Ballard, a British mountaineer best known for the first solo winter ascent of all six major alpine north faces in a single season, and his climbing partner Daniele Nardi, following their disappearance on Nanga Parbat. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 100,000 euros is raised to search for British Mountaineer Tom Ballard and his climbing partner Daniele Nardi following their disappearance on Nanga Parbat.
News source(s): BBC news, Italian post, Sky news
Credits:

• Created and nominated by PeaBrainC (talk · give credit)

 PeaBrainC (talk) 14:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose We should treat this like that recent footballer that died in a plane crash but wasn't affirmed until weeks later. If they find them alive (even if that requires a difficult rescue effort) or end up stating they are dead, that would be the point of posting. --Masem (t) 14:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose ongoing, this would be fine as a blurb. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:15, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake (first time ITN nom) - misunderstood the nature of Ongoing, tagged it as the events are still unfolding. Have now removed Ongoing tag and as if by magic the first (longer) blurb appears. d'oh. PeaBrainC (talk) 15:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

You're fine, honestly it's not a hard and fast rule one way or the other. If ten other people come and support for ongoing, that's where it'll go. Welcome to ITN! --LaserLegs (talk) 15:58, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose both ongoing and blurb on lack of general significance. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose may be more suitable for another part of the main page. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Comment @PeaBrainC: it looks like consensus is against posting this to "In The News" but since the article is new, you may find support at WP:DYK "Did You Know". --LaserLegs (talk) 00:20, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) Tornado outbreak of March 3, 2019

Article: Tornado outbreak of March 3, 2019 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A severe tornado outbreak hits Alabama and Georgia, causing at least 23 deaths and severe damage. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Multiple tornadoes in Alabama and Georgia cause at least 23 deaths and widespread damage.
Alternative blurb II: ​ A severe tornado outbreak hits the Southeastern United States, with one tornado causing at least 23 deaths in Alabama.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Tornadoes hit the Southeastern United States, with one tornado causing at least 23 deaths in Alabama.
News source(s): ABC News, AP, Reuters, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Alex of Canada (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Nominating for Alex of Canada who asked it on here. SirEdimon (talk) 05:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose It's spring, tornados in this part of the US are common. --Masem (t) 05:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Tornadoes are certainly common, but tornado outbreaks that cause 23 deaths? That's pretty rare. Also deadliest natural disaster in the US since the hurricane season. Edit: deadliest tornado outbreak since 2014. Alex of Canada (talk) 05:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support Deadliest tornado outbreak in the US since 2014. The article is relatively small, but it's likely to improve as more information breaks. Alex of Canada (talk) 05:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Question is this how we name such outbreaks? No indication in the title of any geographical context whatsoever? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Apparently yes. See: Tornado outbreak of May 7–10, 2016, Tornado outbreak sequence of May 22–26, 2016, Tornado outbreak of April 27–30, 2014, Tornado outbreak sequence of May 21–26, 2011, Tornado outbreak sequence of May 21–26, 2011.--SirEdimon (talk) 07:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
    • The article has been moved to Alabama/Georgia tornado outbreak of March 3, 2019. Is it better? --BorgQueen (talk) 10:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

      Yes, much better, it begs the question why all the other articles aren't named similarly. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

      • Good move. @TRM, I always assumed titles avoided geographic specifications due to the possibility of a tornado covering multiple states and so making the title bulbous and unwieldy. But this certainly works. ——SerialNumber54129 13:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

        • @The Rambling Man, BorgQueen, and Serial Number 54129: convention in WP:SEVERE is to keep titles to just dates unless it has a widely accepted name (such as the 2011 Super Outbreak). It avoids the issue of giving too much weight to some areas and keeps the title neutral. In this case, calling it the "Alabama/Georgia" outbreak no longer applies as multiple tornadoes have been confirmed in Florida. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Comment if it's going to claim 12 tornadoes, it needs to list 12 tornadoes with refs (or do a content fork for the list of storms until they can get references). Would benefit from a paragraph of prose about the EF3 which killed 23. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:09, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Phrasing in the the "Casualties" section seems like it would age out very quickly ("wait for morning" and "currently"). This assumes/requires someone will update it within the next few hours which may not happen. Are there any style guidelines on avoiding this? GreatCaesarsGhost 12:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose perhaps the most deadly tornado outbreak since 14, but still pales behind other recent natural disasters. ——SerialNumber54129 13:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Comment – Multiple tornadoes killing 23 aren't "common." (Reuters says toll likely to rise.) Alt1 offered above. – Sca (talk) 13:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support Article looks of proper quality and properly referenced, it happened recently, and the news covered it appropriately. Checks all of the right boxes for me. --Jayron32 17:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Comment – I would suggest rewording the blurb to indicate all the fatalities are from a single tornado in Alabama rather than from the event collectively. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support per Jayron32. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support with Cyclonebiskit's suggested change. Spengouli (talk) 18:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Note, per suggestions, I have created another blurb. Would suggest Alt2 be posted based on the several suggestions here. --Jayron32 18:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support ALT2. Significant coverage and unusual death toll. Teemu08 (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support – Alt3, offered above as simplified version of Alt2, dispensing with "outbreak," which sounds more like an outbreak of measles, the flu, etc. – Sca (talk) 21:15, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support ALT2. @Sca: Tornado outbreaks are what they are called. Nihlus 01:16, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hmmm. I don't recall encountering this usage, but ... meh. Sca (talk) 22:58, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support – Uncommon disaster with high death toll. -Zanhe (talk) 04:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 04:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

March 2

Portal:Current events/2019 March 2

March 2, 2019 (2019-03-02) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2019 India–Pakistan standoff Indian and Pakistani soldiers target each other’s posts and villages in Kashmir, killing at least six civilians and two Pakistani troops. (Associated Press) Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War Douma chemical attack The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons's Fact-Finding Mission in Syria issues its report regarding the April 7, 2018 chemical attack in Douma. It reveals that there is conclusive evidence that proves a toxic chemical containing molecular chlorine was used in the attack. However, it did not assign blame for the attack. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the opposition blame each other for the attack. (Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons) International relations South Korea–United States relations The United States and South Korea announce that their annual large-scale exercises, commonly known as Foal Eagle and Key Resolve, will end and will be re-configured into smaller exercises. The joint exercises will be done on a small unit level and may include virtual training similar to the 2018 exercises. (CNN) Law and crime Through a royal decree, King Salman of Saudi Arabia revokes the citizenship of Hamza bin Laden, Osama bin Laden's son, who works in the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization. The announcement comes after the United States government offered a reward of up to $1 million for information leading to the identification or location of him. Interpol has issued an Interpol notice for him after United Nations Security Council imposed sanctions on him which includes assets freeze, travel ban and arms embargo. He remains at large. (CBS News), (Interpol), (United Nations Security Council) Tashonty Toney, son of a police officer, was arrested for vehicular homicide, vehicular negligent injury, hit-and-run and reckless operation of a motor vehicle after he veered into a bike line near a Mardi Gras parade route in New Orleans. He accidentally killed 2 and injured 7 cyclists while drunk and drugged. (fox8live) (Advocate) Politics and elections 2019 Algerian presidential election Tens of thousands of Algerians take to streets to protest President Abdelaziz Bouteflika's bid to seek re-election in 2019 presidential election in what is Algeria's biggest anti-government protests since the 2011 protests. 183 people have been injured. (Reuters) 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis Colombia's Immigration Authority states that 567 Venezuelan soldiers have defected to Colombia from Nicolás Maduro's government since February 23, 2019. They were members of Venezuela's Armed Forces and Venezuela's National Police. (Business Insider), (CNN Spanish) Science and technology 2019 in spaceflight SpaceX launches the first Crew Dragon spacecraft to the International Space Station as part of the Crew Dragon Demo-1 mission, with the first stage of its Falcon 9 launch vehicle making a successful landing on the drone ship Of Course I Still Love You. (The New York Times)

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(Posted) RD: Nathaniel Taylor (actor)

Article: Nathaniel Taylor (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times 4 March USA Today 2 March
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kiraroshi1976 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with everything sourced. Died on 27 Feb but death was reported in newspapers on 2 March onwards. DBigXrayᗙ 15:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support - Good enough.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Sourced and went from Stub Class to Start Class. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 19:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted, nice work — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Werner Schneyder

Article: Werner Schneyder (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Merkur and many others
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Multi-talented great spirit, cabaret, boxing, journalism, TV presenting, ... - no article in English until today. - He was found dead 2 March, was alive 1 Mar, so day of death is not quite clear. - Much more on the German Wikipedia, but my time is limited, - help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support Looks to be in decent shape. --Jayron32 19:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Recordings section completely unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I am tired. I referenced the LPs, and commented out the others. Anybody could have done that (or comment out the section completely. It's there in German, of course). Authority control is a blessing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

There's an ongoing discussion about forking off things like unreferenced discographies on the talk page. Commenting stuff out just to get it onto RD is considered bad form. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I now sourced most of the CDs. Three missing, but I can't keep my eyes open any longer. Anybody can find the three if needed. - These are CDs of spoken German, rather not essential for the English Wikipedia, I'd say. - I am still not over Previn. Unvelievable that we gave Pell prominence for several days, instead. - Get to RD what readers should know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support - I think I fixed the last few refs issues. For me, it's good to go. Great job by Gerda Arendt.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Francisco Macri

Article: Francisco Macri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, Washington Post
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Cambalachero (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Father of current president of Argentina Mauricio Macri, and important businessman on his own right. Cambalachero (talk) 05:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support refs are a mess but at least allow verifiability of the facts (for the time being). The Rambling Man (talk) 06:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support I have reformatted some of the refs. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Comment Page name is "Franco", also gives "Francesco". I do not find "Francisco" anywhere. 72.94.18.179 (talk) 13:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

  The article was moved after this was posted. I've updated it — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ogden Reid

Article: Ogden Reid (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Newyorkbrad (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: New York Herald Tribune editor and Congressman; requested by Newyorkbrad on his usertalk [3]. Softlavender (talk) 04:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support This is ready to go. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support looks satis. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
• Posted. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) Laws of the Game changes

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Articles: Laws of the Game (association football) (talk · history · tag) and Scoring in association football (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The International Football Association Board amends the Laws of the Game, disallowing hand balls among other changes. (Post)
News source(s): IFAB, BBC, Sky Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Both articles updated

Nominator's comments: While previous amendments could be seen as cosmetic, this time it's a set of changes directly related to the gameplay. Other related articles may require updates. Brandmeister^talk 15:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose seems like 1) routine (rules of professional sports are frequently changed between seasons to tweak the game) and 2) relatively trivial (a rarely occuring scoring mechanism highlighting the changes on the sources reporting it). --Masem (t) 15:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose as noted above, routine and trivial. If they were going to allow mixed teams, or play until someone scored ten goals or add two extra goals at each end, it'd be worth considering, but this is tinkering around the edges. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose this is ultra-minor tinkering to bring the official rules into line with what 99.9% of the world already thought they were. To be honest, I don't think this should even be listed as a "notable amendment" on the article. ‑ Iridescent 20:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose So you can't use your hand in football? Thanks for clearing that up. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 20:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Yannis Behrakis

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Article: Yannis Behrakis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Referencing issues, article is bad as well. Pulitzer-prize winning photojournalist for Reuters news. Sherenk1 (talk) 06:15, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. A large paragraph of text is unreferenced as is the Awards section. Capitalistroadster (talk) 08:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose poor article, lacking refs. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:08, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Closed) SpaceX Dragon 2

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Article: Dragon 2 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ SpaceX successfully launches an unmanned test of Dragon 2 (rendering pictured) for shuttling crew between Earth and orbit. (Post)
News source(s): ArsTech
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: I do not believe this qualifies as any space exploration ITNR but I feel its a key step in SpaceX's program. While they have launched a cargo-bearing Dragon 2 before, this is designed to carry crew between ISS and Earth eventually once all critical tests are done. That said, barring any change, a crew-bound test of the Dragon 2 in planned in July 2019, so that might be a better point, but I don't know how others feel. Masem (t) 16:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• Comment – I'd say unmanned test flights don't usually warrant posting. – Sca (talk) 16:29, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
  • But I would assume that this planned July one would probably merit something? Still outside ITNR but would be a major feat still... --Masem (t) 16:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
• Comment Needs some refs, then strong support this obviously notable milestone of the first flight of a new spacecraft. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – If any flight in the Commercial Crew Development program should be featured, it should be the Crew Dragon Demo-2 and Boeing Crew Flight Test later this year. Those flights will actually be historic, as it will have the first astronauts on American spacecraft for the first time in eight years. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 18:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
• Question if this is the first test flight of the vessel, wouldn't this be ITNR? Banedon (talk) 22:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• Questionable, as this is just the SpaceX Dragon with slightly larger windows and redesigned solar panels, rather than a new design per se. Since aside from genuinely routine missions like ISS resupply flights every spacecraft is configured differently to suit the mission profile, what you're proposing would essentially make every satellite launch where the satellite is an unusual shape or mass, or every time Boeing tests a new variant of the 787, ITNR. ‑ Iridescent 23:03, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• I'd support a new variant of the 737 or A320 TBH, it's not at all routine --LaserLegs (talk) 23:13, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• Yes, you could support the nomination, but not the ITNR. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:07, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Iridescent, I didn't propose anything. I asked a question. Also, oppose per Iridescent. Banedon (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• As I've pointed out before, the ITNR for Space Exploration is a bit of a dumpster fire. OTOH, it's not like we're plagued with nominations on this front. Posting the biggest news rocketry once a quarter is fine. GreatCaesarsGhost 02:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support The news is sufficiently covering this, and the article is fairly decent, but that article doesn't have much of an update on the current mission; only to note that it happened and the date. I'd like to see the information on this specific launch expanded in the target/bolded article, but otherwise this looks good to go. --Jayron32 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Zhores Alferov

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Article: Zhores Alferov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sputnik
Credits:

• Nominated by Openlydialectic (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nobel prize in physics laureate. Openlydialectic (talk) 11:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• So many awards/honors need citation. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose too much unreferenced material. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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March 1

Portal:Current events/2019 March 1

March 1, 2019 (2019-03-01) (Friday) Business and economy Amazon announces plans to open dozens of proprietary grocery stores in several major U.S. cities. (The Wall Street Journal), (Fortune) Disasters and accidents A bus overturns on the Qom–Tehran Highway in Iran, killing eight people (including the driver) and injuring more than thirty others. Officials claim the driver fell asleep. (France 24) A Russian cargo ship collides with a motorway bridge in the city of Busan, South Korea. The captain is reported to be drunk. (The Guardian) A leaking oil pipeline explodes in Bayelsa, Nigeria; a stampede follows. Over 50 are reported missing. (The Guardian) A BMW collides with two oncoming minibuses between Fouriesburg and Bethlehem in Free State, South Africa, killing thirteen and injuring eight. (Eyewitness News) International relations Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh Bangladesh's Foreign Secretary Shahidul Haque tells the United Nations Security Council that his country will no longer accept Rohingya refugees fleeing violence across the border in Rakhine State, and accuses Myanmar of "hollow promises" regarding repatriation. (BBC News) North Korea–Vietnam relations North Korean leader Kim Jong-un begins an official visit to Vietnam, three days after arriving in the country for a nuclear summit with U.S. President Donald Trump that ended in deadlock. (The Straits Times) 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis The Trump administration announced Friday it is revoking the visas of 49 Maduro-aligned officials and their families and sanctioning several top military and security officials, part of a major U.S. campaign to push contested Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro from power. (Fox News) Politics and elections 2020 United States presidential election, 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries Washington Governor Jay Inslee announces he will join the Democratic Party primaries in 2020 and cites fighting climate change as a reason. (Time), (The New York Times)

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(Posted) RD: Katherine Helmond

Article: Katherine Helmond (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with everything sourced. Twice Golden Globe winning actress. Died on 23 Feb, but news of her death was released and got published only on 1 March, hence listed on 1 March as RD (Refer example of Emiliano Sala). DBigXrayᗙ 17:34, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support No concerns jumping out. GreatCaesarsGhost 02:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Weakest oppose the Emmy nominations &c. are not completely verifiable from the sources. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:06, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• The Rambling Man I have added the refs for Emmy noms and Golden Globes. Please see if you can support now. --DBigXrayᗙ 05:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support you got it. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)