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    October 14

    Something very weird happened when I made an edit

    Hi! I don't know if anyone has encountered this issue before:

    I was making an edit to an article on Portal:Current events while not logged in (from pure lazyness). I saw someone then reverted it for being disruptive. When I checked what happened, I saw that indeed, within the same edit were contained both MY edit to a section about Pluto, AND a disruptive edit (someone replacing "government" with "goverwhinment").

    I did not do the latter! I have no clue how what is obviously not my doing ended up logged as part of my own edit.

    Did anyone ever experience the same? And is this a bug I can report? The edit in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal%3ACurrent_events%2F2020_October_13&type=revision&diff=983385290&oldid=983382218 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyrhan (talk • contribs) 00:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Pyrhan: My guess is that this was not deliberate vandalism because the added text "whi" is also part of your intended edit, in the word "white". Cheesycow5 (talk) 00:59, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pyrhan: There's no way someone else's edit could be intermixed with yours. That changed was saved as part of your edit. My guess is that your cursor wasn't where you thought it was when you started typing "whi", you saw it wasn't shown where you though it was, repositioned your cursor to the right place, and then continued editing, typing "white"...? Are you the type of "detail person" that would remember routine minutia like that from an hour earlier (most people wouldn't)? If you're really sure, I'd still suggest you watch to see if it happens again before reporting it at WP:VPT. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:41, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: I occasionally have the odd experience that the cursor in the edit window gets misplaced with respect to the actual editing point (source editor). --ColinFine (talk) 09:42, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Were you using the visual editor? I notice sometimes (not very often) using some kind of formatting moves the caret around, usually to the beginning of the paragraph. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Formatting help requested

    Hi all

    I'm writing some documentation to describe a project I'm working on and I have a small formatting issue that is making me sad. I want to make a nice pretty title graphic and I'm 99% of the way there, could someone please tell me how to move the subheading 'working with experts' to directly underneath the title? I don't understand why there is a big gap between the lines and a very light grey box at the bottom...

    Switched On

    Working with experts to build a worldwide database of sexuality education

    Thanks very much

    John Cummings (talk) 11:54, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The gray box at bottom is caused by one of these: -moz-box-shadow: 0px 5px 5px -6px #ccc; -webkit-box-shadow: 0px 0px 0px -6px #ccc; box-shadow: 0px 5px 5px -6px #ccc; (for mw and my browser, the last one is the one that make the gray). Remove them to remove the gray.
    If the 'title' is 'Switched On', I see the subtitle 'Working with experts...' directly below; the left edge of the 'S' aligns vertically with the left edge of the 'W'. Is that no what you want?
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 12:29, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Trappist the monk: thanks very much, deleting these got rid of the grey box. So all I want to do is move the subtitle up to right underneath the title, I think its something to do with the new paragraphs, but not sure how to avoid that John Cummings (talk) 13:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Is this better: 

    {|  style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; border: none;"
|- style=vertical-align:bottom; 
|rowspan="2"|[[File:Noun Project Vector icon 1849477.svg|150px|link=]] || style="font:60px Gill Sans MT, GillSansSA, Calibri, sans-serif; color:#4a4a4a" | '''Switched On'''
|- style=vertical-align:top; 
|style="color: #666; font-size: 30px; | Working with experts to build a worldwide database of sexuality education
|}
    Switched On
    Working with experts to build a worldwide database of sexuality education

    —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Trappist the monk: thanks very much for your help, it looks similar to the old version on my screen, I want basically no gap between the title and subtitle instead of a large gap, I don't understand why its not working... Is it the font has padding around it? Is there a way to remove it? John Cummings (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @John Cummings: Is this what you're looking for?

    Switched On

    Working with experts to build a worldwide database of sexuality education

    —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tenryuu: perfect, thanks so much. John Cummings (talk) 14:50, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @John Cummings: You're welcome! The margin-top parameter for your subtitle was just missing px in the value. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:54, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/İlbilge Hatun

    I don't think this Afd was correctly done in all details. Someone skilled at Afd:s, please correct if necessary. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

     Done * Pppery * it has begun... 13:25, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:05, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Social

    When was prithvi Narayan Shah born — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.52.238.122 (talk) 14:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, there is a Wikipedia article Prithvi Narayan Shah. If this is the same person it says he was born in 1723. If not it would be difficult to answer without more detail. However, this is the desk for help in editing or using Wikipedia, it is not strictly for knowledge enquiries. If you need more, our reference desk may be able to help. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Logo on Team Wikipage

    What is the proper way to post a logo on a Team WikiPage? I first tried PNG thru WikiCommons it got flagged for Copyright material. I then tried a JPG it once again got flagged for copyright material. We own the right to the logo and want to have it placed on there. What is the right way to go about this. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasTruck3 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, NasTruck3. I assume you are talking about Jordan Anderson Racing? Because Commons requires all material uploaded there to be free for reuse, Logos are not normally uploaded there, but are used as "fair use", which means that they are uploaded directly to Wikipedia, and their use must comply with all the terms in the non-free content criteria. See also Logos.
    On another matter: you say "we own", and your account was created the day after User:JordanAndersonRacing was warned that their username was unacceptable. I therefore conclude that you are somebody who is part of that organisation. Please read about editing with a conflict of interest, and stop editing that article directly: in future you should request changes on the talk page, using the edit request mechanism. Depending on your involvement, it is likely that you are what Wikipedia regards as a paid editor: if so, you must make the declaration specified in that link.
    It might help to understand what I'm saying if you to replace the phrase "Team Wikipage" in your thinking by the phrase "Wikipedia's article about our team". --ColinFine (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I have also added a couple of cleanup tags to the article Jordan Anderson Racing. It is liable to get deleted as non-notable unless somebody adds two or three reliable independent sources: places where somebody who has no connection with JAR, and has not been fed information in the form of an interview or press release, has chosen to publish significant coverage about the team in a reliably published source. The existing references may well be all reliable, but the first three are not independent, and the other three do not contain significant coverage. --ColinFine (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for the clarification on those items. I was not aware of a few of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasTruck3 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I am unclear about the concept of a copyright holder providing a item under "fair use". It's clear we (Wikipedia) can let anyone else upload a fair-use logo. It's not clear that the copyright holder can. Surely the copyright holder can upload the logo (to en.wikipedia.org, not to commons) under a restrictive license instead? -Arch dude (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Arch dude. As far as I am aware, Wikipedia accepts images under only two conditions: either free (public domain, or a licence compatible with CC-BY-SA), or uploaded under its own NFCC. Since non-free masterial does not require permission, it can be uploaded by anybody, including the copyright holder. They are of course free to license it under a more restrictive licence, but my understanding is that neither Commons nor Wikipedia will accept it under that condition. --ColinFine (talk) 21:26, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:MOSLEADLANG help

    Hello. I've been trying to find policy guidance on how to deal with foreign language names in the lead sentence of place articles. In particular, where the foreign language name is the same as the English name. For example, Gostivar and Saraj (Skopje) provide the Albanian-language name in the lead sentence despite that name being exactly the same as the article title/English name. Looking at Paris, it doesn't give the "French: Paris", probably because it would look silly. Thoughts? --Local hero talk 15:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know a policy, Local hero, but to me those cases are different from Paris precisely because there is more than one relevant local language. If only the Macedonian name were given, some might complain that the other languages had been omitted. I confess I was surprised to see "Turkish" mentioned for Gostivar: according to the article, 1/8 of the population are Turkish. --ColinFine (talk) 15:52, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Killing of George Floyd

    Do you know why Talk:Killing of George Floyd has not automatically archived for the past couple of days? Please {{ping}} me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:53, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Jax 0677 Yes, it's using ClueBot III to archive, and that bot has been down for about 10 days. The bot owner has been notified. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I've also just asked at WP:VPT (which is where the techies people will see it), to see if anyone can help getting that bot up again. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    A question about reverting edits

    Just a quick question about reversions. I recently made a revert to the article British Medical Association (here), where a user had removed a lot of unsourced text, but changed the description of the subject from a professional organisation to that of a trade union. I suppose one can argue the BMA is a trade union, (indeed, their website describes them as both), but mainstream sources tend not to call it a trade union, and up until now neither have we. The user concerned seems happy to edit war on the issue so I've opened a discussion on the matter at Talk:British Medical Association in order to gain some consensus on whether or not such a change should be made. Removal of unsourced text is obviously a good thing, but introducing potentially contentious statements in the same edit is not. And the sources appear to be broken so I can't check them. It was not possible to separate the two things with a straightforward reversion, so am I right to have acted as I have, or should I go through the edit and pick out the incorrect text while maintaining the original description. Thanks in advance. This is Paul (talk) 18:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    #

    What is a good phone # for knoxville tn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:100:827F:C2E0:B590:B898:165F:AD8B (talk) 19:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    This is not a general help desk, we can only help you with using Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 19:09, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Help With Wikitia Article

    Hello, I wrote a Wikipedia article for an author named Fayeza Hasanat on Wikipedia that was rejected, but somehow the rejected article ended up on a site called Wikitia, somehow powered by whatever powers Wikipedia. The website Wikitia claims the only edits and publications that can be made is by their "verified" board of editors and to ask for any edit or removal would cost me $40 at the least. What can I do about this? How can I get them to take down the content that I authored, especially because there are some typos in it that are badly representative of the author and myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9001:2708:7011:9CAD:1C7A:112D:4F30 (talk) 19:13, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Contact a lawyer and start having him send letters. After all, they're infringing your copyright. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 19:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Pay the $40, a lawyer would cost you much more. This is Paul (talk) 19:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The lawyer would also shut down the obvious extortion scheme. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 19:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    When you created that draft here at Wikipedia, you agreed to release it under the creative commons license. You did this by hitting the bid blue "publish" button. That license allows anyone to copy that draft, as long as they attribute the source. The fact that the article is no longer on Wikipedia is not relevant and does not rescind your grant of the CC-BY-SA license. -Arch dude (talk) 19:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Attribution is NOT the only requirement - it also has to be released under an identical licence. If attribution were the only requirement, it would be CC-By. But it's CC-By-SA. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 19:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    That's true. It means that you are free to make a copy and publish it (under the same license). It does not mean that they must allow you ot modify their copy on their web site. -Arch dude (talk) 19:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Additionally, they have no obligation to let you edit or remove the copy on Wikitia. RudolfRed (talk) 19:38, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I found the page at Wikitia. I can't link to it because it is on Wikipedia's blacklist, but tt does say it is from Wikipedia and links to the draft here as the source. RudolfRed (talk) 19:44, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    This Wikipedia and Wikitia both use the the same open source wiki software, which is called MediaWiki. Anyone is free to create a wiki using this software, but that does not create a relationship between Wikipedia and Wikitia. The Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee both use Microsoft Word, but that does not create a relationship between them. -Arch dude (talk) 19:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)And to be fair they do attribute the article to Wikipedia. The chances are, nobody but yourself and Fayeza Hasanat are going to know you wrote the original text, so I wouldn't bother with the lawyer. I'd just chalk it down to experience. This is Paul (talk) 19:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Change User Name

    How can I change My user name? or do I need to create an new profile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klangert (talk • contribs) 21:05, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Klangert: Since you only have one edit, the best thing to do is just abandon this account and create a new account with the name you want. RudolfRed (talk) 21:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia

    This Wikipedia app is wrong all of the information is wrong so may you correct it. --Jw90918 (talk) 21:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    How is it wrong? It can't be fixed unless you tell us what needs fixing. This is Paul (talk) 21:37, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    How to publsh a draft

    Hello, I wrote this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Krystyna_Schreiber. How can I publish it in Wikipedia? How to bring a draft to the reader? Stampista (talk) 21:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Stampista I've added the appropriate information to allow you to submit your draft. 331dot (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


    October 15

    Kion Shariff Fulton Wilson

    how do I change it from user: Kion " Shariff " Fulton-Wilson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kion " Shariff " Fulton-Wilson (talk • contribs) 00:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Take a look at Wikipedia:Changing username. This is Paul (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Extended-confirmed?

    Am I extended-confirmed yet? I have made over 500 edits to Wikipedia and on my user page it says that I have been on Wikipedia for a month, but I still seem to be autoconfirmed. What's going on? --Gioguch (talk) 01:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Gioguch: Your account was created at 2020-09-15T15:22:48Z (UTC). 30 days from then is 2020-10-15T15:22:48Z, over 14 hours from now, though I wouldn't expect it to happen exactly then. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:19, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Most Mysterious song on the internet

    I made an update to the Wikipedia article about the most mysterious song on the internet which was then removed by somebody. Please contact me so I can discuss the changes I made or give me the contact information of who controls the removal of information and who first posted it. I was the singer of the song and wrote the lyrics in an ad lid contest in the early 1980s. If you need some type of proof of this let me know what I need to furnish to you to prove this? There was no copyright filed on it and I had no idea they had recorded me when it was sang in the contest but will furnish you whatever it will take to prove this.

    Thank you.

    Randal Turner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:9A7F:6050:8C54:D7CD:DC6D:742A (talk) 01:27, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page. Information must come from reliable published sources, not your personal knowledge. RudolfRed (talk) 01:41, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)I'm sorry, but that is not how Wikipedia works. We are crowdsourced, with more than 10 million editors over the last 20 years and more than 100,000 in the last 30 days. All content is added by these anonymous editors. We have no means, and no desire, to validate the identity of any editor. All content therefore must be cited to published reliable sources: see WP:RS. -Arch dude (talk) 01:51, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, see WP:NPOV and WP:PUFFERY regarding statements like "Most Mysterious song on the internet", which, even if you could find a source that said it, would be unencyclopedic and inappropriate for a Wikipedia article. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:12, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Courtesy link: The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet. I do not see where you made a change or where one was reverted recently. The appropriate place to discuss changes to that article would be on Talk:The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 13:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    (I struck my remarks above. I didn't realize that it was the title of an article about a song actually known by that name.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC) [reply]

    There is incorrect information on the Adderall page

     Courtesy link: Adderall

    There is incorrect information on the Adderall page. The TAAR info has human in front of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.119.7.162 (talk) 01:48, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Not an error, as it redirects to TAAR. Please go to the talk page to discuss this further. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    My request

    I submitted a request Trndsettr4fire (talk) 01:58, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Trndsettr4fire, indeed you have. Do you have a question for the help desk? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:06, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Can it get review? Trndsettr4fire (talk) 02:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Someone will look at it eventually, but with what you've got so far it's virtually going to get declined. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:10, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    And It has been declined. You may have a look at User:Ian.thomson/Howto. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:58, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Enable previews button does not work

    Earlier, I disabled the previews feature. However, when I clicked on the "Enable Previews" button, nothing happens. I don't even the option to enable previews. What is going on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.25.0.66 (talk) 08:10, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm guessing that you've logged out of your account. Try logging in again.--Shantavira|feed me 10:56, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I was never logged in to begin with. I don't even have an account. Is there a way to fix the "Enable Previews" button? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.25.0.66 (talk) 19:06, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    How to cite with "et al" in the Visual Editor

    Now that "display-authors" is deprecated is there a way to do this in Visual Editor please? I have been advised to limit to 6 authors.

    Chidgk1 (talk) 08:24, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    |displayauthors= is deprecated; |display-authors= (with the hyphen) is not deprecated:
    {{cite journal |title=Title |journal=Journal |author=Black |author2=Brown |author3=Red |author4=Orange |display-authors=2}} → Black; Brown; et al. "Title". Journal.
    While |displayauthors= is deprecated, it is still functional. There are several editors currently running awb scripts that are cleaning up newly deprecated cs1|2 parameters. You might want to edit the TemplateData for whichever cs1|2 template you are using to remove |displayauthors= or find someone who will (I will not be that someone).
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes on the visual editor it is called "Display authors" (should I put a screenshot here and if so how - by the way imgur is blocked in this country) and when I click the "i" in a circle it says "Number of authors to display before 'et al.' is used. By default, all authors are displayed. Examples: |display-authors=2 will display only the first two authors in a citation followed by et al. |display-authors=etal displays all authors in the list followed by et al." but when I actually try and use it it tries to use the deprecated one without the hyphen and gives a message "Cite uses deprecated parameter |displayauthors". I just used the "automatic" cite function in Visual Editor on to https://doi.org/10.5194%2Fessd-11-1783-2019 and I think that decided it was a journal. So is the problem in the automatic function rather than the "cite journal" template? (by the way unless there is some way I can just "watch" this question please could you ping me). Chidgk1 (talk) 06:44, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Chidgk1, why not just switch to the source editor once you've done everything on visual? I find templates to be way easier to work with in source. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Tenryuu That is fine for me now as an old techie, but unfortunately Greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey are likely to continue for decades and if I manage to get it to FA the article will need maintaining to stay there, and I suspect in future editors new to Wikipedia will not bother to learn source editing. Does anyone know where the code for the automatic cite function lives? Chidgk1 (talk) 05:59, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Visual editor: citing the same source with different page numbers?

    I remember a while ago seeing some info about some effort to do this tidily (perhaps in Phabricator: Citoid or https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/visualeditor-mediawiki-references/) but now I cannot find it. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:28, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    One approach is to use {{rp}}. -Arch dude (talk) 15:53, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    (Pinging Chidgk1. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:06, 16 October 2020 (UTC))[reply]
    Oh yes thanks https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Book_referencing is linked from there but not ready yet Chidgk1 (talk) 06:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Surname

    Could you add the last name Flatland as a name in Wikipedia. I cant find any family history anywhere but it would be nice if it were recognized as a surname. Thank you D. Flatland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.41.205.17 (talk) 11:22, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    No, you're asking at the wrong website. -- Hoary (talk) 12:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    "Table within a table" coding

    Dear experts,

    I have configured a table within a table on my User:SCHolar44/subpage6 page. As show in the table, I need to move the Column 2 heading up to the top of the column, and to have a [Show] button to disclose text currently in the form of Lorem ipsum "greeking". The current "Summary" heading and adjacent button would go. I would greatly appreciate advice on how to do this.

    In the Edit view, I have also included a note asking what the purpose of a "width="40%" line is.

    Sincerely, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬  at 18:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Vivo Energy Page

    Hi, I work for a digital agency that manages the website of Vivo Energy and they have requested that I help them with changing information that is wrong or out of date on the page for the company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivo_Energy .

    I have left comments on the talk page to try and get some things changed however the editor that has been helping me feels that they can't take too many suggestions from me due to my conflict of interest on this, however some of the information on the page is still incorrect. I appreciate that this editor is just trying to stick to guidelines and the spirit of the guidelines, so I don't want to spend time trying to persuade them to make the edit - is there a way that I can get the attention of other editors on this page so that they can review the requested changes for me?

    Thanks --TomTCantarus (talk) 11:53, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    TomTCantarus, if you have a client relationship with Vivo you must declare this; generally it is done on your user page. The template {{paid}} can be used to do so. If you would like interested editors to see your requests, use the edit request system. I also recommend rereading WP:RS, as sources used here must be reliable and independent. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:36, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    How to edit suggested articles?

    Where do i go to edit a suggested article to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exptix (talk • contribs) 14:21, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Exptix: Could you please clarify what you're asking? Are you looking for articles to edit? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    User:SuggestBot might be of interest, it can suggest pages to edit based on user's prior edit history and/or specified interests. 2606:A000:1126:28D:A993:1D91:B432:3122 (talk) 19:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    If you go the article on the River Wye and looks on the talk page, one will see a sub-section entitled "ENGLISH-WALES BORDER". There some one says "Some people would say Monmouthshire is in England". User: Ghmyrtle has typed a reply saying "Some people are wrong, that is why we write educational articles such as "this". The word "this" is in blue letters, suggesting it is a wikilink, and indeed if you click on it one does get to an article on Monmouthshire. My question is, how does one get to do what User: Ghmyrtle has done and type a simple word such as "this" and make it a wikilink to a Wikipedia article? Many thanks for any help, Vorbee (talk) 15:03, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Vorbee: This is called piping. Ghmyrtle typed [[Monmouthshire (historic)#Ambiguity over Welsh status|this]] to produce this, and I typed [[WP:PIPE|piping]] to produce piping. I hope that makes sense! DuncanHill (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear User: DuncanHill, thank you for your very prompt response. I have tried piping on the sandbox on my userpage - seeing whether this would take me to the article on Martin Luther. It did. In all of the many years I have been using Wikipedia, I am sure I have seen piping getting people to specific sections of articles. How do I do this, please? Vorbee (talk) 18:14, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Do the same thing, but add a hashmark/pound sign and the title of the specific section, with spaces not underlines. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Underscores work, such as this link to the River Wye's navigation and sport section. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:32, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Minor infraction

    WP:BLANKING says "A number of important matters may not be removed by the user—they are part of the wider community's processes: [including] The "Old Warnings" {{ow}} template." (Template:OW).

    So what do you do if the users deletes the template? This really seems like it is too minor to take to ANI, but on the other hand if we have a "don't remove this" rule that isn't enforced, why bother having it? Is the answer proposing that we remove the rule? To go to ANI anyway and no doubt to get shot down for complaining about such a minor infraction? Perhaps we should write up a standard warning template for this. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:51, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Guy Macon: I'm unfamiliar with that template, but after a quick read, my solution would be to restore it, warn the user and then go to ANI if it's removed again. Perhaps an admin with experience dealing with this situation can chime in. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:19, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    ​It was added a month ago, I personally think it should be removed. This template is only really used for IP editors, and I don't see a reason why IP editors shouldn't be allowed to clear their talk page even if it once contained warnings. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:18, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I can see no discussion of adding old warnings template to the list of things that cannot be removed, so have reverted it. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:37, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Good call. --Guy Macon (talk)


    October 16

    Regarding Staff and Contractors of Wikimedia

    If a staff or a contractors get caught with vandalism and they get blocked, can they get fired too? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 00:32, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes. -- Hoary (talk) 01:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    This is probably a dumb question and I've probably missed a discussion - why can I no longer see the interwiki links at the side of the page? They were there yesterday, under the toolbar. Deb (talk) 07:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know. For me they appear both in the new vector version and timeless. Is there any particular page you think about and which skin are you using? Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:49, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) Deb They were there on this Help desk on my browser just before I clicked edit. They don't appear while I am in editing mode. —teb728 t c 07:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    They never appear in edit mode, but now they aren't there at all - yet they are there in all other Wikipedias. Surely my profile should be the same in French wikipedia as it is in English wikipedia? I've changed nothing and I'm using Modern, but I can see that they are still there in the Timeless skin so I guess there must have been a change to that. Deb (talk) 12:47, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I momentarily switched over to that skin to test it out and I can confirm that the interwiki links don't appear in the sidebar. It sounds like a WP:VPT or Phabricator issue. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:41, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, thanks. Deb (talk) 17:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Create a page

    How can we create a profile page for organization? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveDhoni (talk • contribs) 08:01, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I'll assume that this is related to your creation, Draft:Selva (which may have been deleted by the time that you read this). We cannot. We do not write about our organizations. We use independent, reliable, published sources to write about organizations of which we are not members. And if the results still somehow resemble PR releases, they must either be radically rewritten or be deleted. -- Hoary (talk) 08:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't create new articles.

    I've just finished writing a biography and published it. But every time I visit the edit source section, I still get the same article. Can you help please, anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenkates2 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Greenkates2 Note that "Publish changes" does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia"; it should be understood to simply mean "save changes". I have added the appropriate information to your draft to allow you to submit it for review; click the "submit your draft for review" button in the box at the top of your draft. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    331dot Does it mean that I can't write any other article for that matter? Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenkates2 (talk • contribs)
    Greenkates2 You can create other drafts by using by using Articles for Creation. You can also create additional subpages such as User:Greenkates2/sandbox 2. 331dot (talk) 10:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you :331dot. Still learning the ropes. Greenkates2 (talk) 10:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    When will my page be approved ?

    I made a page on a local school in my area in July but it has yet to be approved. Please help me out getting it approved. I don't what is wrong or why is it taking so long.

    The link of the submitted draft is Draft:Solitaire Global Schools

    Thanks Worker bide — Preceding unsigned comment added by Workerbide (talk • contribs) 13:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Workerbide: There are currently 3,737 unreviewed articles in the draftspace. You should receive a response quickly, but the wait times can be upwards of 2 months in some cases. I wish you luck in getting your article through :) NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 13:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Nonsensicalsystem but it has been so long. I don't what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Workerbide (talk • contribs) 14:02, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    One problem is that you never submitted your article for review. I will add a template. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 14:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Workerbide: I made some improvements but your draft has insufficient sources to demonstrate notability. It's unlikely to be approved without more sources of media coverage. See WP:GNG. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:37, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I am pretty new to Wikipedia and that article was my first foray into Wikipedia. When I first made that article, I did submit it for review, don't know why it didn't reflect that. Anyway, I could use all the help to make more pages. I want to contribute to wiki. workerbide —Preceding undated comment added 19:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Workerbide, and thank you for wanting to contribute to Wikipedia. I understand the wish to create new articles - I remember feeling that myself, when I was a new editor. But we have more than six million articles, and thousands and thousands of them - maybe millions - are in desperately bad shape. I believe that if a new editor spent a few months improving existing articles rather than trying to create a new one straight away, in most cases they would be adding hundreds of times more value to Wikipedia than their attempt at a new article does. --ColinFine (talk) 19:54, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @El cid, el campeador: There was an AFC template at the bottom of the article at Special:Permalink/971392930. Or was there something wrong with it? There are now two – one at the top and one at the bottom. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Article Vote Alert - Question

    So for merges/splits/deletion there are templates which create an alert for other editors to discuss. If a vote (Over topic in the article, not about the entire article) is taking place, is there a template to use to alert editors to that vote? Thanks for help in advance. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:26, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    @Elijahandskip: You can always add a page and its talk page to your watch list. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:10, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    It isn't for me. So for example, on Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory, there is a debate (edit wars) in the lead statement and other parts of the article. Currently a name change vote is taken place (Has a notice on the article about the vote) and there is a vote for the lead statement (Doesn't have a notice at the top of he article.) My question is about creating a notice for a vote like the lead statement type vote.Elijahandskip (talk) 18:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The feedback request service notifies people who have subscribed, thus bringing in unconnected editors. And anyone with the talk page on their watch list can participate as well. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:21, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature changes

    Hello, how do i change my signature thing, i saw someone which had it with colors for their username, and i want to change the color and possibly other stuff Gameking1happy (talk) 17:51, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Gameking1happy, see WP:CUSTOMSIG. Just be sure to follow the guidelines further down. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:53, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    New to Wiki

    Can I get a page creation walk-through? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.77.75.154 (talk) 18:03, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Welcome. This is a great place to start Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure. And Help:Your first article. And register for an account. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    lathom..

    lathom.. I made a change in that article, you said what i said wasn't constructive... you read it...in the article its says THANKS FOR NOTHING... i my edit I thanked the former owner for what he did putting thousands of pounds to make everybody happy with memorabilia etc.. the man had to close down the club, because he had lost heart basically. he lost at least 5 barstaff dying then. then the Top Hat was when his wife had a massive stroke and he was her carer. and had to give up the club.. you take down my praise and keep on someone giving him stick...

    i am confined to a wheelchair and a drummer when i went they used to have to carry up steps to get me in.and I joked with Brian Corrigan can't we have a ramp..and i was shocked a week after when i came to the club he had constructed a concrete ramp with rails. a Real decent man.

    take mine out and leave a disgusting comment in. NOW YOU DISGUST ME — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.108.133 (talk) 18:31, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    I undid the vandalism. I will message the editor to find out more details to why he undid your edits.Elijahandskip (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, IP user. The comment that another IP user put in the article in August did not belong there, and indeed was a piece of vandalism. Unfortunately, your reply was also inappropriate to a Wikipedia article. I think that Materialscientist must have noticed that you had introduced inappropriate material and removed it, without noticing that the previous edit had also been inappropriate. (My guess is that Materialscientist was using a semi-automated tool: the battle against vandalism in Wikipedia is arduous, and people can't spend a lot of time on each case checking the rights and wrongs). Elijanandskip has now removed the offending sentence as well as your reply. I
    I hope you understand how your edit, though well-meant, was also not acceptable in Wikipedia: Wikipedia takes a neutral stance: an article should never either praise or condemn anybody (unless it is quoting a reliable published source that praises or condemns). --ColinFine (talk) 20:23, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    English pound symbol

    I am trying to use the English pound symbol in John_Johnson_(inventor)#Europe, however I don't believe I have it correct for the 7,000 pounds in the first paragraph. Can an Englishman correct for this American editor - thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Doug Coldwell, done. Popcornfud (talk) 21:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Doug Coldwell, {{GBP|7,000|long=no}} will do it for you if you ever need it again: £7,000. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 21:55, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    It's worth noting, per WP:CURRENCY that we don't need to link to common currencies, such as the dollar or pound, outside of articles specifically talking about currencies. But, it's probably not a big deal. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    References all changed (my first sandbox article)

    Each reference was entered correctly, then all of a sudden the whole list converted to grey type that reads: This reference is designed in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be previewed in source mode. When I click on that (normally it is in visual) nothing happens. How can I see my references again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cohosh (talk • contribs) 23:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Not being able to imagine what happened, I decided to take a look for myself. You (as "Cohosh") have never created anything in any sandbox, or anyway you have never saved ("published" the "changes" to) anything in any sandbox. Where is this? -- Hoary (talk) 23:28, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    You're right, I never hit "Publish" because I wasn't finished because of what I just described above! I had no idea what happened to change the text. I'll hit the publish button——I just would hate to have to type in all of those references again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cohosh (talk • contribs) 00:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Cohosh, just remember that in this context "publish" doesn't mean "announce to Google, Bing, Duckduckgo and thereby to the world"; it just means "save so that you and others can look at it". And learning from mistakes, even ghastly ones, is what sandboxes are for. Incidentally, when you write a comment here or on another talk page, please end it with four consecutive tildes ("~"): this will add your username and the time. -- Hoary (talk) 01:06, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    October 17

    how to express date when the source only gives a (northern hemisphere) season

    MOS:SEASON says to avoid using terms like "spring of 2021", but what does one do when the source gives no other information, and the source is probably Russian so it is not clear (at least not to me) what they mean by "Spring"? The Candidates Tournament 2020 in chess has been postponed until "the spring of 2021".[1] What is the most appropriate way to express that? I could say "northern spring 2021", but that sounds like a bottled water; or "northern hemisphere spring 2021", which seems a bit clumsy. I could say "March to May 2021", but I am unsure whether all countries define "spring" that way. Or leave it and let the context be obvious, though as an Australian that frustrates me. Adpete (talk) 02:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Maybe "First half of 2021"? --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:09, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe. On further thought: I think it is appropriate to be precise ("northern hemisphere spring") in the body of the article; and the dilemma is more how to put it in the lead. Adpete (talk) 02:25, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Adpete, while unconventional, you could directly quote from the article, and where the source is located should hopefully allow readers to infer which hemisphere (and subsequently season) the event is taking place in. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:29, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Adpete and Tenryuu: Yes, just put quotes around "spring of 2021" and let it go at that. The guidance for not using "spring" is part of our goal of avoiding "hemispheric bias" (see WP:BIAS), but we cannot WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS if it gets in the way of writing a readable encyclopedia. -Arch dude (talk) 03:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Adpete: I don't think the northern hemisphere part is necessary, since that is implied by the location of the tournament (much like dates and times are assumed to be local to the subject unless otherwise specified). Journal cites routinely use issue dates like "Spring 2021" (no "of"). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually the location for the resumption has not been announced. So it is possible, though very unlikely, that it might be held in the tropics or southern hemisphere. (And there is precedent: part of a 1993 championship between a Dutchman and a Russian was played in Jakarta). Adpete (talk) 05:21, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Since the location isn't known yet, I'd be more inclined to stick with using direct quotes. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Julia Holcomb was a 16 year old child. She was not a groupie. She was a victim of statutory rape by a then 27 year old Steven Tyler.

     Courtesy link: Steven Tyler

    Julia Holcomb was a 16 year old child. She was not a groupie. She was a victim of statutory rape by a then 27 year old Steven Tyler. You need to correct the page on Steven Tyler. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.221.170 (talk) 05:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    do you have a reliable source for that? Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know if there's a source that calls it statutory rape specifically but the current source for "groupie" doesn't seem to exist in this context and I have a hard time believing writing "16 year old groupie" when talking about the relationship between a nearly 30 year old man and a teenager is NPOV. Praxidicae (talk) 15:58, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I've boldly removed it. It adds nothing to the article and still adequately explains what needs explaining. Praxidicae (talk) 16:01, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Incorrect Photo - Dr. Henry McBay

    I worked for Dr. McBay at Morehouse College in Atlanta during the early 1980s. The picture used for him is Not him. There are Several to view Online. He was Very diminutive in stature. Never saw him With a Beard Or Mustache. Thanks.

    Cynthia Flint Crawford Class of 1979 Spelman College — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.38.158.61 (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Which article are you talking about? There are no photos in the Henry Cecil McBay article. Adpete (talk) 08:06, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps you mean the "google panel". Those are out of WP:s control (but they have a "feedback" link), though they often take info from here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:36, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The Google knowledge panel does have an image, but hirsute in it, he is not. Eagleash (talk) 12:37, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Here there is an image with that name and facial hair but may or may not, look like him as far as I can see. Eagleash (talk) 12:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Google has a tendency to use our picture when it exists. When our article has no picture, google apparently does an Internet search and quite often gets the wrong picture: we have no control over Google in this regard. However, if you can find a properly-licensed picture of Dr. McBay and upload it here, then we can put it in our article, and Google is likely to eventually begin using it. -Arch dude (talk) 18:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Help removing a username

    I need help removing a username for a history of edits--Whodidthis9 (talk) 09:22, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Whodidthis9 I think that Wikipedia:Oversight is what you are looking for. —teb728 t c 09:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    LTA?

    diff

    Hey all, a recent edit I made got flagged as “Potential LTA”. I believe that’s an abbreviation for Long Term Abuse (if not please correct me). Wonder what triggered the flag and what I can do about it. You may find the edit here Thank you. 123.231.110.126 (talk) 10:40, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    You can find more detail in the edit filter log. Ruslik_Zero 12:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ruslik0: That first log entry doesn't show any detail to editors who lack your advanced permissions. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    This is what's known as a false positive. We try to keep these to a minimum, but it sometimes happens. Most people who look at such things would know to ignore it. It's going to be a rare event which you might not be able to repeat even if you tried, but I'll see what can be done about it anyway to reduce future occurrences. -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:29, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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