Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (5th nomination)

Sierra Vista Mall

AfDs for this article:

• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall
• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (2006 nomination)
• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (2nd nomination)
• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (3rd nomination)
• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (4th nomination)
• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (5th nomination)
• Articles for deletion/Sierra Vista Mall (second nomination)

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Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It has been deleted at AfD multiple times, most recently last year. All of its coverage is either local or passing mentions. (The Business Journal is a local source, as are Fresno and Oakland. The NRDGA is the definition of a passing mention, and the go.com is tagged as a "Local" story.) I looked through all major academic databases and the best I got is "Sierra Vista Mall Serves as Cooling Center During Extreme Heat" from a targeted news service and other small mentions where the mall is either incidental to the story or only of interest to the immediate locality. If malls are commonly kept at AfD, they should be really easy to source. There is nothing particularly noteworthy about this run-of-the-mill mall, though it would make a fine redirect to Clovis, California#Cityscape, which can cover anything that needs to be said about the mall's existence (check the edit history for a merge that was reverted). The editor that reverted the last AfD's redirect has said there is no precedent for merging malls to town articles, though of course we merge non-notable child articles to parent articles all the time. If the article is redirected or deleted, please salt it so we can avoid yet another AfD. Thanks for your time. – czar 18:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:41, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:41, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:41, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

• Keep per long-standing precedent that this level of coverage is sufficient for asserting a mall's notability; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sumter Mall (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southgate Mall (Missoula), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Findlay Village Mall (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Mall at Westlake, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Middlesboro Mall (Middlesboro, Kentucky), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Staunton Mall, et al., all of which were closed as "keep" despite a similar level of coverage. Merging to Clovis, California as the nominator did seemed to be in violation of WP:UNDUE and WP:LENGTH, and the AFD's I've linked show that these kinds of sources are sufficient per WP:OUTCOMES to assert enough notability. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 23:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
• Merge because the mall does not have the notability for it to be covered in a stand-alone article, even in summary style; it will not be a considerable detriment to navigation nor will it lose important context. Esquivalience ^t 00:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
• Keep - Mall is covered in newspaper sources and appears notable. Article could use a little expansion though. Dough4872 04:58, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
• Delete Sources do not establish notability all sources are either local, passing mentions or perfunctory. This is just a run of the mill mall with no national coverage. Consensus can change and past AFD outcomes does not give this article an instant pass. Me5000 (talk) 16:38, 6 September 2015 (UTC)