User talk:Titus Gold

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Hello, Titus Gold

Thank you for creating Fauna of Wales.

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Hatnotes

The hatnote template you are using includes as the first line of its explanation "Do not use this template on top of a page". Further it is intended when a section of an article deals with an event or topic that is discussed in detail in its own article, not just as a way to try to attract attention to a new list page you have created. If this even merits mention, it would be in a See also section at the bottom of the page.

Further, if you add something to a page, and it is reverted, then it is incumbent on you to establish a consensus on Talk pages for the change before restoring it. Agricolae (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I didn't realise this template couldn't be used on the top of a page. Thanks for bringing my attention to this. @Agricolae Titus Gold (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

The new one is no better. Hatnotes are "to help readers locate a different article if the one they are at is not the one they're looking for", and specifies one should "Mention other topics and articles only if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind." Nobody looking for a list of King and Princes of Wales is going to land on the page Madog ap Llywelyn by mistake. What you are trying to do here, alert people that there is a page on a related topic, is the job of the 'See also' section (at the bottom), not banners on top of articles. Agricolae (talk) 23:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I wasn't aware hatnotes were so strict. I've just read the page you've quoted. Apologies Agricolae

Titus Gold (talk) 23:12, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

I know this is going to sound unnecessarily arcane, but unfortunately you have unknowingly created another problem. When I said your link belongs in the See Also section rather than a hatnote, that described the situation as it then existed. However, you then added the link into the article text, and that changes things. One of the stipulations of the See Also section is that it should not contain pages that are already linked above in the article. You can pick which way you want to do it - linked in the article or listed in the See Also section - but it should not be both. Agricolae (talk) 01:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

No problem. I'll remove the See also's. Titus Gold (talk) 09:54, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

List of Welsh people who refused "British honours"

I'm looking at your new article List of Welsh people who refused "British honours" and have concerns that it constitutes original research, particularly the WP:SYN section. That is, that you're editorializing about the subject without having reliable sources that support those conclusions. Can you find sources that talk about the refusals in terms of why Welsh people might refuse the honors? Otherwise, I may have to nominate the article for deletion.

Also, standalone lists should, in general, have sources that talk about the topic. See WP:LISTN.

Thanks. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:07, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

PS: I'm going to copy this note to the article talk page so others can chime in if they with. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

I'll include content talking about the topic. Thanks for suggesting this. Will add shortly. Titus Gold (talk) 18:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Midwalesarts.org.uk

Hello Titus Gold,

please go to this site:https://midwalesarts.org.uk/ Maybe this site shall have a place on this Wales-Wikipedia-Site? Please check this! Thank you! Kindly VG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.148.224.249 (talk) 13:02, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Recent edits

Hi, I'm a bit confused about the intent of your recent edits:

Are you moving Baseball in Wales (as of now a redirect) to Welsh baseball? Justiyaya 15:49, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

also is English baseball fully moved (cut and pasted) from another Wikipedia article or adapted as a separate article? Justiyaya 15:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Never mind I'm assuming you were splitting the article, this edit summary sorta confused me. Sorry about the pings. Justiyaya 16:02, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

To @Justiyaya, it seems they tried to perform a cut and paste move from Baseball in Wales to Welsh baseball, resulting from a split of the formerly British baseball article (now a redirect to Baseball in Wales) into a separate Welsh and English articles.

To @Titus Gold if you want to change an article's title please do so through the move process, a cut and paste move removes the article's attribution history (basically all evidence of previous editors). If you can't do so because of technical reasons (i.e. over a redirect that already exists) you can request an administrator move the uncontroversial page over the redirect at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Note: moves that may be controversial and opposed by some editors should become a requested move with a discussion on the talk page. Many Thanks –. DankJae 15:12, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@DankJae@Justiyaya Thanks for the advice, will follow this procedure in future. Cheers Titus Gold (talk) 15:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

do you want to request a history merge to fix the cut and paste move? Justiyaya 15:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Never mind just noticed it was reverted Justiyaya 15:28, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Areas of edits

Might you consider that not feeling so free to weigh in on Wales related articles and instead edit in other areas of Wikipedia might be of benefit to the Encyclopedia? Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 23:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@SovalValtos I don't think anyone should be discouraged from editing particular topics, particularly ones related to a country. I have created virtually all the major articles I felt were lacking for Wales and I may start to wind down my frequency of edits soon. I have created multiple articles that are not directly about Wales and some that have no relevance to Wales. Naturally, I will edit articles that I have some degree of interest in. If you want assistance with editing a particular article or topic, please let me know. Titus Gold (talk) 00:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Welsh hip-hop.

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Please replace list of artists with an overview of Welsh hip-hop in general. Artists can be listed within the article, but should not be the only content in the article, and should not be placed in individual sections.

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Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 00:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pyrrho the Skipper: Yes you're right. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Titus Gold (talk) 00:37, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Copying articles

Hi @Titus Gold:, I've noticed you copy a lot of text from other articles in your edits, such as the draft here and other Wales-related articles you have created. One of your copy and paste moves has been marked as a potential copyright violation (this edit). Happily you've started to link the source article in your edit summary. However, it may be best you also re-word the text added, as mentioned by another editor above, it would be best you re-format the paste (i.e. remove bold text outside lead and re-word it so it is not just leads of various articles) so it may not look like an advertisement (you efforts at Welsh hip-hop are much better now), and make sure the references you paste across are also correctly transferred. Some references you have transferred just say (Surname (Year); page) such as at Welsh folk music, these in-line references were likely referencing a list of references at the source article's bottom which you did not copy across (only the applicable source should be moved). Many Thanks – DankJae 14:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@DankJae I always link to the source article (not something I've recently started doing) when copying relevant text from one Wikipedia article to another, as is allowed on Wikipedia and makes good use of existing text. The potential copyright violation was linked to text that was not written by me. I always make sure to only copy quality text that is well cited. Yes, I do correct the formatting including bold text etc., occasionally I might forget to do it during the copy, but I very soon get round to it. - - Yes, I already re-word text and re-visit text to ensure it is properly re-worded. Let me know if any text needs further re-wording.Thanks for pointing out the references note. I think that's actually how the references existed on the original pages. Nevertheless, will look out for that in future.

Let me know if you spot any room for improvement in future or want any help with a particular articles or aspect of an article. Titus Gold (talk) 15:36, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, even though you did not write the content, you did copy it across, so ideally you must check for any issues with the text, including original research, uncited material and copyright violations (although I admit I was surprised the edit was tagged). But as it is tagged best the text copied is now paraphrased, I may try to do it myself but it seems you have a reason why that detail is needed. For the attribution, there was a section on your talk page on attribution, but I admit that was a few months ago, seems I thought it was closer, sorry about that. In terms of references, yes please check they're moved across correctly, including some of your older articles. Many Thanks DankJae 16:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Your contributed article, 2023 Scottish independence referendum

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Welsh Folk Dance Society moved to draftspace

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Nantgarw dance tradition.

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Proposed Welsh independence referendum.

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A cup of tea for you!

Good article on the Welsh independence referendum! Enjoy some tea! ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 03:52, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!@SunDawn Titus Gold (talk) 11:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for creating Palaeontology of Wales.

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Bruxton (talk) 01:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Translation template

Hi, if you are adding translations, please use the Lang-cy or Lang (cy is the code for Welsh) templates. Please also follow MOS:LEADLANG in terms of bolding lead translations, i.e. unless the translation is commonly used in English-language sources, do not bold them. Many Thanks DankJae 22:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I did read the guidance but it's not particularly clear or detailed. I will use the template in future, however the template does not accommodate bold as far as I can see. Thanks for the pointer! Titus Gold (talk) 23:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

If you want the translation to be bold, simply make the text bold in source editor i.e. '''Bold Text''' (add the apostrophes). In terms of MOS:LEADLANG, it states "Do not boldface foreign names not normally used in English", therefore if you want to bolden a translation, please show evidence for common (multiple) English-language usage compared to the existing English name, and prepare to back it up if disputed. Many Thanks DankJae 23:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Yes I did read that upon second reading, thanks. Titus Gold (talk) 23:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Military history of Wales

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Thanks for sorting that. Titus Gold (talk) 02:23, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of List of devolved matters in Wales for deletion

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This, that and the other (talk) 07:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Kings and Princes of Wales for deletion

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DeCausa (talk) 17:24, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Page moves

Your page moves tend to be controversial but are often done without consensus. can I draw your attention to WP:TITLECHANGES. I recommend getting input from other editors through, e.g., the article talk page rather than continuing to make unilateral page moves which then have to be reverted. DeCausa (talk) 19:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

That's fair enough, I will seek consensus on established names. List of rulers of Wales however was the title before I made any changes. I just moved it back to that, have a look at the edit history. There is currently a grammatical error in the name change you performed. @DeCausa

Looking forward to working with you on articles in future.Titus Gold (talk) 21:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022

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Which edit is this? I've not copied anything as far as I'm aware.@DiannaaTitus Gold (talk) 20:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Amending article.

Hi Titus, I'd like to bring up a subject you attempted to upgrade... The Principality of Wales article was recently edited by yourself, and you were a given the same response by a wiki user that I received. Please read the talk page of this article and continue to attempt to correct errors by upgrading the article. I myself attempted, and also contacted Wikipedia administration about the negetitive response of a certain user. Again, follow up and and reply to my request. Cltjames (talk) 23:03, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Ways to improve River Gyffin

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Hatnotes again

Please read WP:RELATED, hatnotes at the top of the article are for disambiguating to very similarly worded article titles (VERY similar), in which a reader may have clicked the wrong article and needs redirecting. It is not to be used to promote other articles on a similar topic. I also added these in the past, but have now removed all I can remember that do not meet this policy, so please do not add any more inappropriate hatnotes. These links would make sense in a see also section, if not linked in the body text per WP:NOTSEEALSO. Thanks DankJae 14:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

So many 'new' pages & categories

Howdy. I can't keep up with the pages (including 'list' pages) or categories that you're creating, with the word "country/non-country" & "countries/non-countries", "sovereign country/non-sovereign country" & "sovereign countries/non-sovereign countries" in them. But, I do believe you should consider re-naming all of them, to "sovereign state/non-sovereign state" & "sovereign states/non-sovereign states". GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@GoodDay Thanks for your comment. There are only three pages/categories I've made that are not redirects: "Category:Non-sovereign countries", "Category:Non-sovereign countries with multiple official languages" and List of non-sovereign countries. Thanks Titus Gold (talk) 16:48, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Welsh devolution

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@David Fuchs Thanks for this. Let me know if there's anything that needs to be done to bring it over the line. Titus Gold (talk) 20:24, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

September 2022

Your recent editing history at Principality of Wales shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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