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Previewing changes

Regarding "saving" your changes and comparing them to the current version of an article, what works for me is to open the original article in a separate window. Then, in the window you're using to edit, you can click the "Show preview" button after each change and scroll down to compare the same passages in your edited version and the original. (All this assumes you're editing on a PC/laptop rather than a mobile phone, of course.)

Hope it's okay that I responded here rather than at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Law, as I thought it was a bit off-topic for that page. Cheers. Meticulo (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for this edit. You're right. That wording was strange. WP:MEDMOS says to avoid talking about "patients", and it can be particularly sensitive in psychiatric contexts, so I've had a go at converting the article to talk about "people" instead. If you're at all interested in the subject, I hope you'll keep working on that article. There's some good information, but there is a lot of room for improvement, too. Thanks again – Wikipedia needs more editors who will notice problems like calling people "voluntary citizens", and dive into fix them like you did. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:27, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hey User talk:Girth Summit. I haven't shown any interesting a gender-related dispute or controversy. I showed an interest in the use of dictionaries as citations material for factual claims on Sexism. Are you interpreting Sexism as a gender-related dispute? --Talpedia (talk) 08:04, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Talpedia, yes, that page is covered by the sanctions, and its talk page has an edit notice informing you of them. GirthSummit _(blether) 08:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Girth Summit Ah yep the 8th of 10 notices on the page. I guess it would have been pulled into other discussions on these topics so had the same sanctions applied. --Talpedia (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

They tend to define these areas as broadly as possible, because otherwise the problems move to the adjacent articles. Then we'd re-define the area a little more broadly, and the problems would creep a little further out, and the process repeats itself.

These "Important Notices" can scare people off, although I and other editors have tried to make their purpose clearer. This is sort of a "Here there be dragons" note: We want promising editors to know that other editors have screwed up in the past, so behavioral rules are enforced more zealously in these articles. That way, you'll know to watch out for problems and not get caught up in them. If you see problems, Girth's a good person to ask for help. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Your evaluation of Supreme (brand)

Hi. A couple of months ago, you were nice enough to begin the evaluation of the mistakes in the Supreme (brand) trademark section. I paused for a long time to respond, waiting for the definitive trademark ruling from the European Union. It’s been issued -- and so I’ve finally been able to get back to you with additional information you requested, plus more. The info and amended requests are at the bottom of Talk:Supreme (brand)#Multiple false statements about counterfeit goods. Appreciate your consideration for possibly resuming the evaluation. Thanks. Oa4251 (talk) 17:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

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Would you be willing to co-author a brief article for Wikimedia Research Newsletter?

It's that article I cited on the WP:MED talk page. I'm also asking WhatamIdoing. The pieces in the Wikimedia Research Newsletter are supposed to be "a couple of paragraphs" although they often seem to be longer. Usually one of the articles is featured in the Signpost. I started a sandbox page to write a draft: User:Markworthen/sandbox/Feminist critique of Wikipedia's epistemology. Thanks! Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 22:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Yup, I'll lend a hand. Talpedia (talk) 22:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Not a good idea when advising a new editor with some civility problems to make a personal attack on someone else

Seems obvious. Doug Weller talk 16:30, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Doug Weller: The reason it isn't obvious is that what could have been a minor content issue, dealt with by a single revert and "sources please" has been turned into a warning on someone's talk page, and then what seems to me like a questtioable threat for blocking. I'm annoyed at this sort of behaviour. Talpedia (talk) 16:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
  • The sequence was that an editor added a Twinkle level 1 warning, then Cluebot came along twice with warnings. Generalrelative gave the editor standard DS alerts which is reasonable, and the editor exploded. I came along hoping I could calm things down while at the same time pointing out that actions have consequences. Maybe it was Cluebot that set him off like that, but I don't want editors to think that that sort of talk is acceptable. In my experience most good editors, ie those who haven't come here just for an agenda, respond. Maybe I should have told him that my father suffered from domestic abuse. Doug Weller talk 17:09, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
    • @Doug Weller: I guess you are probably more experienced with this stuff, I only became involved because Generalrelative posted of WP:Psychology Project and then I looked at the user page - I was suspicious that a pile on was being summoned. I guess I just felt that the first edit was only *marginally* POV and felt that the warning by GeneralRelative was therefore turning combined with your warning was turning something minor into something big. I've had the experience of editors rattling WP:ANI at me while I engaged in what I thought was good faith editing - in fact it seems to be the most common form of incivility - people accusing you of WP:ANI and then accusing you are being biased and engaging in tendentious editing. My experience is that you need to be able to face down WP:ANI and accusations of POV threats by sticking to the sources and the policies if you are going to edit on these pages. Anyway, I guess I'll leave this to you. I do think banners can have a bit of an inflammatory effect, but know they are considered reasonable. Talpedia (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, let's both hope the editor improves their attitude - although I think your comments about me didn't help. Doug Weller talk 19:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Help with trademark issue

You previously worked on the article for Supreme (brands) concerning the trademark section. There has been a significant development with the granting of the trademark in Europe. I have created a proposed correction on the Talk page to the article: Talk:Supreme (brand)#Corrections January 11, 2021 Thanks for your consideration.Oa4251 (talk) 18:43, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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User:PaleoNeonate Thanks for the heads but I already knew that :P. Talpedia (talk) 09:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Though I'm a fan of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PaleoNeonate&type=revision&diff=1001780023&oldid=1001765622&diffmode=source :grin:

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Feminist critique of Wikipedia's epistemology

Hi Talpedia! If you have time, please see: User talk:Markworthen/sandbox/Feminist critique of Wikipedia's epistemology/2nd draft. Thanks! Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 01:57, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks for the message - stressful week, but I think I'm done with it for a while. I'll probably get to it at some point this week :) Talpedia (talk) 18:54, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Blocking cafe wifi

The Cloud is a company that provides cafes and restaurants with with WiFi hotspots with WiFi networks which their customers may use. It has a registration process. I frequently use computers in coffee shops, and this prevents me from editing Wikipedia when in coffee shops that use the cloud to provide their internet connections.

The IP block used by this provider is blocked with the reason given being that it is a hosting provider. This is not the case. Given that the reason for the block is wrong, and that this block is inconvenient for me (since you also block my VPN provider), I am appealing this block.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

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Request reason:

Ip range 94.117.0.0 is not that of a web hosting provider as documented in block reason

Accept reason:

The block reason is correct. However, I will grant you a short term IP block exemption to allow you to resume editing. If you frequently edit from public wifi, which is often blocked to either prevent abuse or due to being a webhost, you may request a longer term exemption by following the instructions at WP:IPECPROXY. 331dot (talk) 13:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Talpedia (talk) 13:16, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks 331dot. I think the block message I got was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colocationwebhost are you sure that is correct? I think this might be better describe as an open proxy rather than colocation. Talpedia (talk) 09:10, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry; I get them mixed up. Technically you would need to follow the instructions at WP:IPEC, but either way a checkuser looks at it. 331dot (talk) 11:19, 19 July 2021 (UTC

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Request reason:

Hey, I'm staring to have real issues editing wikipedia due to IP blocks and it's getting kind of annoying. I've been experiencing mediawiki wide blocks that even make it impossible to make requests like this - and did not receive replies to me emails. Though in fairness it has been less than a week since my request.

The IP address in my accommodation (which is student accommodation at the moment is blocked across all mediawiki sites). The IP address of the coffee shop near my house is blocked. The IP address of the pub near my house is blocked. The IP address of my VPN is blocked. I'm kind of tempted to get a VPS and set up a private proxy on it to work around the blocks - which is perhaps a little ironic. Do we actually intend that only people who live in a house in the countryside be able to edit wikipedia - because it feels like it's going this way...

Unfortunately I don't have all these IPs to hand. I have the one for my current location which is 94.118.114.84.

Accept reason:

Unblocked 94.118.0.0/16. This does not appear to be a webhost. Looking at the ripe database, the contact email for this range indicates that this is sky broadband, and likely a wifi service. See also: The Cloud (company)

ST47 - would you mind double-checking here, and possibly reversing the blocks related to this? ^{!ɘM γɿɘυϘ}⅃ϘƧ 22:29, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

IP block exemption

Considering that you've been editing since 2016, have never been directly the target of a block, are not currently suspected of using multiple accounts and that the last IP address you listed was only procedurally blocked as a proxy, if this still happens on a regular basis a longer exemption period could probably be applied... Moreover, a checkuser could run a check just to make sure that the record of the recent addresses you used are not particularly linked to recent problematic activity and your own editing habits. WP:IPEC, WP:IPECPROXY explain who can request it and how (it can also be done via email). —PaleoNeonate – 00:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

@Paleoneonate: Thanks for the reply. This helps me understand the purpose of the IP exemption a little more. Wikipedia seem to be using this to detect and prevent sock puppet.

For the sake of clarity, I do have a second account that I use exclusively for editing pages directly related to my work ("Have a look at this page, oh look, the first edit is precisely what you were just talking about") and pages related to where I live. I barely use this account though.

Perhaps I should get a dedicated IP address from a VPN provider? This might be useful to me in general and they are not very expensive. This would allow you to unblock me for a single IP address. Talpedia (talk) 18:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

CIDR blocks target ranges and I'm not sure if the software allows to whitelist certain addresses within a blocked range, so I'm not sure. The IP block exemption however works anyway, I think. Although 10+ years back I was more familiar with it (to port and maintain a version for a non-MySQL database), I'm not really up to date with the current code and an admin familiar with the tools would know better. 331dot may help but is also not a checkuser, the email provided in the policy page would apparently be responded by one... As for the other account, they may notice it and will determine if it violates policy. I know that various editors do this to edit in completely unrelated areas (I personally don't, so I also lack that experience). —PaleoNeonate – 03:15, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Hmm... perhps I'll just try a dedicated IP and hopefully it won't be blocked. Otherwise I guess I'll chase up with this email. Talpedia (talk) 18:42, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Cool, let's hope that it works, —PaleoNeonate – 00:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Please see above. Feel free to ping me if you run into more similar blocks while we work on resolving this. ^{!ɘM γɿɘυϘ}⅃ϘƧ 22:30, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and unblocked the remaining The Cloud ranges, with the exception of 94.119.64.0/18, which is blocked anon-only for sockpuppetry. This is based on the article on The Cloud that I linked above, as well as their website https://www.sky.com/wifi. ^{!ɘM γɿɘυϘ}⅃ϘƧ 10:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

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In the future, I encourage you to discuss things individually more instead of submitting to an RfC. It can even take months before the other side is willing to compromise. If you want to know why, follow the links at User:Epiphyllumlover/ACE_2021. In retrospect, asking this question seems to have been a good idea because it seems like now I get less trouble.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey @Epiphyllumlover: I think I might need a bit of context to fully understand your advive. I don't think I've ever created an RFC (though I have had one opened on my part) and contributed to a few. Do you mean I should talk to people on their talk page rather than replying to RFCs? Talpedia (talk) 20:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Unblock request: The cloud internet

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Request reason:

Caught by a colocation web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. My IP address is 94.117.0.16. This IP address belongs to The Cloud (company). A provider of wifi internet connections to pubs and cafes in the UK with approximately 22k endpoints[1]. Could we add an exception for logged editors at least? Talpedia (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Per the above accepts. I will give you IPBE for a month this time. But please go to WP:IPECPROXY and request it permanently there. I'm sure you will get it. — Daniel Case (talk) 06:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I've extended the IPBE two years, which is nearly permanent. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 09:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

How sad

I just wanted to emphasize how sad it is that you didn't agree with the consensus that was achieved that you didn't participate in, and have continued not participating in, by instead attempting to achieve a new consensus in the edit notes where there is reduced visibility. I want to make sure that you're feeling okay in a time that I know might be difficult for you. My heart goes out to you and especially to your family, whose safety is paramount to all of us. 176.46.113.248 (talk) 03:43, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Just know that we care about you and you can always talk to someone to work through the personal things that affect all of us from time to time. Sometimes that can really be the best thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.46.113.248 (talk) 03:53, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

You are forgiven my friend but it's actually beyond your last warning as you have made three edits in a row in direct and clear conflict with Wikipedia's guidelines, isn't it? You haven't forgotten what status quo stonewalling is, my rich friend? One more time: is everything okay with you right now, my pal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.46.113.248 (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Hey. Hmm, I'm pretty sure that it's you who is edit warring. But I might have gone acrosst the line (after you did) it's true, of course I'm not the only one reverting you Talpedia (talk) 07:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

No, of course not, you're just someone who rather than using the Talk page to make your case when your repeated edit attempts failed, tried to put out a beacon to a large cohort of medical editors instead, only still without directly making any substantive arguments to support your point (given that there is a feature of Wikipedia specifically for addressing the only actual justification you've so far raised for your edits, namely a "citation needed" tag). Like I've seen mentioned, I'm confident you didn't do this to switch accounts so you could continue on not responding to the actual relevant discussion. I don't want you to listen to those meanies.

It's just that we all care about you and we really want the best for you. I know sometimes it can feel like the whole world's out to get you, trust me. But that's just not the case. Have you got someone you trust that you can talk to right now? 176.46.113.248 (talk) 11:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)