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== October 2013 ==

[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at [[:User talk:Srich32977]]. Your edits appear to be [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive]] and have been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed.
* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor then please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[WP:DISPUTE|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant notice boards]].
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of policies|policies and guidelines]], and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive, until the dispute is resolved through [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]]. Continuing to edit disruptively could result in [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|loss of editing privileges]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-disruptive2 --> '' None of your text was changed. Adding the space before the paragraph produces a disrupted layout. This was explained in my earlier edit summary. Your text simply repeats what you said before, and I do not intend to comment further on it.''  – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=Stop icon]] Your recent editing history at [[:Ludwig von Mises Institute]] shows that you are currently engaged in an [[WP:EDITWAR|edit war]]. '''Being involved in an edit war can result in your being [[WP:BLOCK|blocked from editing]]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the [[WP:3RR|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[WP:REVERT|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period.  Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert.  Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's [[WP:TALK|talk page]] to work toward making a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. See [[WP:BRD|BRD]] for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]].  In some cases, you may wish to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]]. <!-- Template:uw-3rr --> [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 05:07, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

:I don't know/think that Specifico has engaged in EW. The edits involve different parts of the article. BRD has been initiated on them. I'd like to see his replies.  – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 05:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

::In fact, not a single one of these recent warnings from you or Bink is legitimate. Also, you're mistaken about BRD. [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 06:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

::: SPECIFICO, in view of this and many previous rounds of erroneous accusations against you, I recommend posting a warning on your page that accusations lacking [[Wikipedia:Competence is required|WP:Competent]] reasoning will be deleted from your page. [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 06:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
:::: SPECIFICO knows the Wikipedia rules, & We can be sure there have been no fault from his site. I think one of the biggest Wikipedia problems is they do not have any strong policy against giving wrong warnings to Users talk pages. [[User:KhabarNegar|<font color="pepper" size="2px">KhabarNegar</font>]] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[User talk:KhabarNegar|Talk]]</span></sup> 10:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Or making false accusations on the drama pages, for that matter. There's really no incentive to be honest. [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 15:14, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

== ANI-notice ==

[[Image:Ambox notice.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.   <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 20:13, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
:Careful with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=578062053&oldid=578061789 those edit conflicts]! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 04:43, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

== Some thoughts ==

Specifico, I've been wanting to exchange a few words with you for a while now. (I just got back from a 3 day trip for a funeral, so have been rather inactive lately.) You seem to be a pretty good editor, and your comments usually seem pretty well thought out, rational, and civil. But there's something that's been bugging me for a while, and it's been difficult to put my finger on it. I first noticed it at the SPI when you came down condemning it so quickly, and then lobbied so hard for it to be withdrawn, and I've continued to notice it as I've watched the various talkpage and noticeboard threads unfold. I think what's been bugging me is the partisan way in which you defend your friends and attack your "enemies". Every time someone makes a complaint about MilesMoney or Steeletrap, you're there defending them, excusing them, and pleading on their behalf. Yet every time someone makes a complaint about SRich or Binksternet, you're there piling on and condemning. While I totally support defending each other, I think it actually hurts your credibility when you are so partisan about it. As an outside observer looking in I've seen just as much or more disruption coming from your side of the proverbial aisle, and it makes me wonder if you are intentionally ignoring it, or if you are so involved personally that you are unintentionally blind to it. Please note, I'm not asking you to stop defending your friends, but I am asking you to consider the merits of not attacking your enemies. SRich and Binksternet are rational people and can be engaged in rational conversation if you and your friends would engage them. (If you can't see that—if you see them as irrational POV pushers or something—it might be a good idea to do a little introspection.) The way I see it, you are in a position where you could start making compromises, enforcing rational discussions, and even convincing people, if you chose to do that. It might not be quite as exciting as being an officer in this teacup-war, but it would gain you a lot more respect from your peers, would result in more stable and better-written articles, and would save the community a lot of time and headache. In the end, it's your choice, and nobody, least of all me, can force you to do it. <p>On a slightly related note, I was reading over the ANI thread under the Proposal, general sanctions heading, and it seems like you're trying too hard there. You have four "level one" bolded "vote"-like comments ("Oppose", "Comment", "Observation", and "REQUEST FOR INFORMATION") and you've bolded a bunch of "level two" indented replies ("@Sitush", "As a libertarian", "@Zad68", "THANKS CAROL") and you are the most frequent user of <nowiki>{{od}}</nowiki>, using it in several places where it wasn't needed ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=578051489&oldid=578051175 example]). In a voting-like thread at ANI, I see this as being somewhere between a mild attempt to give extra weight to your own viewpoint, and [[WP:SHOUTING]], neither of which is viewed favorably. <span style="font-family:times; text-shadow: 0 0 .2em #7af">~[[User:Adjwilley|Adjwilley]] <small>([[User talk:Adjwilley|talk]])</small></span> 16:31, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

: I wish you would pay some mind to [[User:Adjwilley|Adjwilley's]] wise words, [[User:SPECIFICO|SPECIFICO]]. He shares them most likely because he doesn't want to see you blocked which is the direction this dispute seems to be heading toward.
:  In my limited time as an active Editor here, I've spent a fair amount of time reading over cases at AN and AN/I and when cases involving the same few people keep being brought there again and again, there comes a time when the regulars there get tired of hearing complaints and settling disputes which never seem to get resolved. The more often you show up on noticeboards, the more likely it is that the situation will [[WP:BOOMERANG|boomerang]] back on you. It ceases being a matter of who is "right" and who is "wrong" and instead becomes an issue of who is being "disruptive" and, on the other hand, who is a productive Editor who can work well with others.
: Do not [[WP:BAIT|bait others]] with provocative comments which are intended to inflict injury and belittle other Editors instead of resolving conflicts. This fighting has been going on since the summer and appears like it will continue indefinitely until some or all parties get blocked from editing. You are still at a point where you can get past this if you (and others) can get over this back-biting and filing of complaints against each other. That's a lose-lose situation and I'd rather have you around Wikipedia, contributing your perspective, for a long time. <nowiki></soapbox></nowiki> <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 20:57, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

::I'm a little disappointed that I haven't gotten any response here or seen any noticeable change in your behavior. I was just reading Liz's post above, and I agree with everything she says. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hans-Hermann_Hoppe&diff=580378097&oldid=580377604 This] isn't a very good example, it's just your latest post which I stumbled upon a few minutes ago and had to read a few times to figure out what you were talking about. From an outsider's perspective, it looks like you are trying desperately to get in the last word - as if you're saying "We can get back on topic if you are admitting that '''you're wrong''' about this completely unrelated point". Please...try not to make things personal. It's possible to talk about the substance without the jabs. <span style="font-family:times; text-shadow: 0 0 .2em #7af">~[[User:Adjwilley|Adjwilley]] <small>([[User talk:Adjwilley|talk]])</small></span> 00:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

== ANI ==

I think that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=578473070&oldid=578472551 opening yet another section] just muddies the waters even more. Can we not trust a closing admin to work out what has been said? - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 23:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
:I have to agree. I don't mean any ill will toward you SPECIFICO and I'm sure your intentions are pure, but creating new sections/proposals and posting as frequently as you have in the ANI thread is working against your purpose. Adjwilley gave you some good advice, above. With all due respect, please consider adjusting your approach. - [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 00:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


== Template ==

[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Ludwig von Mises Institute]], without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-tdel2 --> ''The BRD on this issue was opened today and has had a few comments. The law student issue has not been discussed. It is disruptive for you to follow MilesMoney [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute&diff=prev&oldid=578613866]  and remove tags here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute&curid=229887&diff=578638739&oldid=578635322] based on your unilateral decision that there is consensus after 17 hours of discussion. {{rpa}} – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 02:51, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:You're beating a dead horse.  I have removed your personal attack here and I ask you not to disrupt the editing of the Hoppe article. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  02:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

'''@Srich''' You have been told not to post on this talk page. I have removed your violation without reading it. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  03:13, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Property and Freedom Society ==

SPECIFICO, I will do all I can to locate, and quote where possible, reliable sources so the Property and Freedom Society page can be accurately presented.  Thanks for all your time and effort, I have today looked at most of your wokr and it is by in large exemplary. Keep it up!  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/176.252.29.220|176.252.29.220]] ([[User talk:176.252.29.220|talk]]) 16:25, 25 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Thank you.  In the future, please add your comments on article or user talk pages at the bottom of the page.  Thanks. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  17:24, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== RSN Noticeboard ==

I made this posting ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard 1]) in relation to the Volokh Conspiracy source, and thought you might be interested in commenting. [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 18:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Probably wrong again ==

You see, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Iselilja&diff=prev&oldid=578880725 this sort of thing] is something to which you seem prone. You spread a discussion across a wide range of talk pages, probably with good intentions but effectively dispersing the commentary and running the risk of being accused of badgering. I have no horse in this race but I'm not the only one who has previously mentioned this tendency. I really do think that you need to reconsider your approach. Once in a while would attract no great attention but this appears to be a habit and as such it becomes a potential problem. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 23:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== A bowl of strawberries for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Erdbeerteller01.jpg|120px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Happy Halloween! These are freshly picked from my strawberry patch. [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 03:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
|}

Well, thank you.  Nice to feel the woman's kinder, gentler touch amid all these editor-gladiators. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  03:22, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
: Any time, dear. [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 18:27, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion ==

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring]] regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit warring]].  [[WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Steeletrap and User:SPECIFICO reported by User:Srich32977 (Result: )]] <!--Template:An3-notice--> Thank you.  – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 02:57, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mises quiz stuff ==

I think that the pair of you need to stop now and discuss. Let's not have another bout of specious fiddling around. Agree some wording on the talk page and then apply it. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 22:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:Stop?  There's no problem.  Srich cited a policy with the concern that I used the word "claim" so I substituted a wording which is suggested in the policy while still making it clear that it was vMI's statement as to the substance of the quiz.  You are projecting and this post really serves no purpose.  There's just no behavior which needs your attention here.  [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  00:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

== Past notifications ==

Hi SPECIFICO, while there's no rule against mentioning warnings/notifications that an editor has received in the past, in the interest of minimizing drama, I hope you won't bring it up in the future. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 20:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
:Hi, Mark.  Me too, thanks.  [[Image:Face-angel.svg|40px]] [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  21:36, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

==WP:AEGS notice==
Individual editor notice and logging in per [[Wikipedia:General_sanctions#Community]] regarding [[Thomas DiLorenzo]] BLP issues discussed at length on the talk page and now going to WP:BLPN. <br>
As a result of a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute community discussion], the community has enacted [[Wikipedia:General sanctions|editing restrictions]], described at [[WP:AEGS]] and below.  

*Any uninvolved administrator may, at his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on a page within the topic of [[Austrian economics]], if, despite being notified of these restrictions, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standard of behavior, or any normal editorial process. 
*The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length, bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict, bans on any editing related to the topic, restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors, or any other measures that the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.
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Generally, the next step, if an administrator feels your conduct on pages in this topic area is disruptive, would be a warning, to be followed by the imposition of sanctions (although the warning may be omitted). Hopefully no such action will be necessary.

This notice will be logged at [[Talk:Austrian economics/General sanctions#Log of notifications|WP:AEGS]].  <br> '''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] <small>([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])</small>''' 22:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
:I just noticed this and had a couple thoughts. Carol is unquestionably involved here, so I don't think you should take this notification as an indication that your behavior has been disruptive. That being said, it is good to be aware of the discretionary sanctions here so I'm not going to remove this. And, as always, extra care should be taken when sourcing claims about living people. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 06:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

==FYI, ANI mention==
[[Image:Ambox notice.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.   <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]]  ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])</small>''' 19:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

==Note on Barnstar==

It is pretty UGLY, but seeing your name next to it made it pretty. <3 [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 22:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
:You GO, girl. No accident you are a daughter of Athena, goddess of knowledge and intelligence. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  22:56, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Meh. I'd totally prefer being the goddess of spunk. :P [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 04:27, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

==Mises Sanctions as a Horror movie plot: Anyone can die?==

Today's cascade of notifications reminds me of a 90s slasher horror film like [[Scream (1996 film)|Scream]]. Anyone -- that means you and I, as well as [[User:Binksternet]], [[User:carolmooredc]], [[User:Srich32977]], [[User:MilesMoney]], or even new Sheriff [[User:Sitush]] could '''die at any moment''', at the bloodied hands of a callous, capricious, admin with many other murders to his name. (Though he ''totally'' doesn't deserve it, my money is on Srich, since he's too brave to stay in the safe house, and will actively seek to try to seek information from/impersonate the killers.) Since Miles Money appears to be a zombie (he was topic-banned from ALL Austro-libertarian articles prior to 'rising from the dead' in a re-opened ANI), I don't see him being killed again. [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 04:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:You anthropologists are always one step ahead of the game, I'd say. Or, maybe it's just that [[Women's Intuition|women's intuition]] you were born with. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  04:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
::I strongly object to being called a zombie; I prefer the term [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/White_Walkers white walker]. More seasonal.
::I've said it before, but I'll say it again: WP:ANI is desperately random. You never know what a report is going to turn into, or whom it's going to turn against. This one is all about Carol, but she's trying to name everyone who has ever edited an Austrian economics article, perhaps to spread the wealth. I guess her actions make sense, in a certain way, but I don't understand why admins put up with it. Don't they know that this makes a laughing stock out of them? [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 06:08, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
{{od}}
For some reason, Rich has decided that the above is a personal attack. As usual, he's a bit vague when it comes to backing up the accusation. For example, precisely how am I attacking her? By saying that she brought up the names of other editors? Rich's accusation rings false. [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 06:29, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:I've forgotten whether I'm allowed here or not but if anyone is "trying to name everyone who has edited an Austrian economics article" then Steeletrap's opening comment here is a more complete example. And, Miles, while it was not a personal attack in my opinion, the safest way for ''you'' to avoid what will be a very nasty sanction is never to discuss the motives or actions of other contributors except at centralised noticeboards such as ANI. I've survived under a sanction situation for a long time now: if the people involved in this circus keep their noses clean then AEGS won't be enforced. Alas, few of you are doing so and it says much for the admins that you malign here that they ''do'' tend to overlook infractions unless they become serious. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 07:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
::There's a very good reason I'm commenting here and not on [[WP:ANI]], which is that I'm quite consciously avoiding the bait. You reported Carol for maligning the motives of others, and her response is... to malign the motives of others, such as myself. This has nothing to do with me and I want nothing to do with it.
::In a sane world, some admin would require her to deal with the issues you raised instead of trying to create a circus environment by casting blame far and wide. We don't live in such a world, apparently, but I'm not interested in joining that circus so I'm ignoring her canvassing and avoiding that ANI report.
::Does her behavior make a mockery of ANI? I think it does. But if anyone is maligning the admins, it's Carol. [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 07:28, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
{{od}}'''Miles''', you are a one-man mischief machine.  Please keep on your new best behavior, or "behaviour" as you might say.  Especially on my talk page. Sitush, you are welcome on my talk page so far as I know. Only Srich was uninvited, I think, but he posts here all the time anyway. Welcome to my talk page.  [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']]  15:49, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
::: Wait, did people seriously take offense at my above post? If I call admins [[elves]] or [[dragons]] (as opposed to supernatural serial killers) is this also offensive/a PA? [[User:Steeletrap|Steeletrap]] ([[User talk:Steeletrap|talk]]) 17:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
::::My browser's spell-checker enforces American spellings, so I type "behaviour" and it turns into "behavior". If only it could automatically edit out my mischief!
::::So far, the extent of this mischief is that I refuse to be baited. Should I feel guilty? [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 04:11, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

== November 2013 ==
[[Image:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|stop attacking]] other editors. If you continue, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. <!-- Template:uw-npa3 --> ''Your posting of personal details about another editor, by linking the blogs, is [[WP:TPNO]].''  – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 18:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)