User talk:Parsecboy

	Fragmented conversations hurt my brain.
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LNN

Hello, I'm writing in regards to your comment here. First off, do you know what "lnn" is? If so, a simple explanation (as was requested) would be quite helpful. Second, if redirecting "lnn" to "LNN" is so detrimental, why didn't you just undo it? (you are an admin, right?) Anything you can contribute here to clear this up would be appreciated. Thanks - thewolfchild 01:22, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello again, I note that you have actively edited since I posted my question here. I will assume that perhaps you didn't notice, and therefore will ask again for you assistance. Thank you. - thewolfchild 01:37, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I did not see this earlier. I much prefer the old message notice system, since the new "you have new messages" doesn't tell you how many you should be looking for. In any case, no, I don't know what "lnn" stands for, but you might consider asking User:Mzajac, who created the redirect way back in 2007, and is still active. Parsecboy (talk) 11:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'll give that a try. In the meantime, there are a couple of things that are a little confusing to me. First, you had commented that my change of the redirect affected 200 pages, yet the link you provided only lists two. Second, I was under the impression that you took issue with that edit, but in your comment here (at the bottom), you seem supportive of it. Am I mis-reading something(s)? ... - thewolfchild 18:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

The redirects have all been fixed (see for instance here). That's what I was objecting to—you were making more work for others to clean up and did not seem to understand the need to fix the problem your edit created. As for my comment on the Posen FAC, I was neither supporting nor objecting to the re-targeting, simply explaining why the need to fix the lnn link hadn't been identified until Ian saw it. Parsecboy (talk) 18:47, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Well, sorry if my edit "created work", but it looks like work that needed to be done anyway, as you "explained to Ian". Mind you, I didn't create that re-direct in the first place. I just tried fixing it. As did Ketiltrout before me. For some reason, Br'er Rabbit went and undid that, but I can't ask him because it appears he has been banned for like... ever. So, like you said, hopefully Mzajac can shed some light on this. - thewolfchild 20:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

No, it wasn't work that needed to be done. Everything was hunky dory until you changed redirect. And "fixed" is a subjective way to describe it; presumably there is a reason Mzajac created it in the first place. Parsecboy (talk) 21:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

"Presumably" ? - thewolfchild 18:46, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, presumably, because I cannot read Mzajac's mind. I can only assume that s/he had a good reason to create the redirect. Parsecboy (talk) 22:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's where you and I will have to agree to disagree, as I'd rather not "assume" anything. - thewolfchild 00:06, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

It would be better for you to WP:AGF. Parsecboy (talk) 00:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not even gonna touch that one. Best we end this. Bye. - thewolfchild 06:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Leipzig-class cruiser

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Leipzig-class cruiser you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by GA bot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:35, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Your List of battlecruisers is now a featured list in de:Wiki too

Hello Parsecboy,

as you maybe know I translated your featured List of battlecruisers into German language a while ago and have nominated it for becoming a featured list on its own two weeks ago. Today it was finally awarded with 8 Pro and 0 Contra. The article saw a few changes in its structure and streamlining in the tables which are now sortable but in its essential core and which got it the most praises, the introduction and the high number of references it is still your article. So, in my opinion it is for a great part your Award. Thank you for the great article and the answers to the questions I had during the translation. Best regards --Bomzibar (talk) 20:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Like Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 21:01, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks, Bomzibar. I hadn't been following its progress on de.wiki, but I'm glad to know how it ended up! Parsecboy (talk) 00:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Request for administrator input

I know it's not a military topic, but I've seen your work on military article and knew you were an administrator, and so hoped you might be able to weigh in. The article about Wajam, a browser add-on that shares user search information with friends and generates pop-up ads, is the source of some edit "scuffles." I've added a section with four or five sources that discusses why Wajam can be a security threat, and how it is often installed without a user even realizing that it's there. This is well-documented. Meanwhile, the page is policed by the company; IP users from Montreal (where Wajam was created) keep reverting edits that discuss the security concerns. Now there's a brand-new user whose only contribution so far has been to delete that controversy section. I asked another admin (Tom harrison) about it, but he's not on all that often. I don't want to run afoul of the 3-revert rule, but this sock-puppetry is a bit ridiculous, and smacks of NPOV violations. I'd appreciate some outside input. Thanks! Sacxpert (talk) 22:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

It seems rather obvious that these IPs are connected with the company. I left a couple of comments on the talk page and warned the IP who has been talking with you about his/her apparent conflict of interest. I seriously doubt that will achieve anything, but I can always start blocking the IPs. Parsecboy (talk) 12:36, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Possible GA Nomination

I was planning on nominating one of your Greek maritime articles, the Greek destroyer Lonchi. Needless to say, you may assist in the review if you wish to do so. QatarStarsLeague (talk) 13:19, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Sure, that's fine. I'll help out with it where I can. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 13:28, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dresden-class cruiser

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Dresden-class cruiser you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:42, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Marceau

I'm finally finished with Marceau. Check it over and make whatever changes are necessary. Double-check the bit in the main body about going into reserve against Feron as I think that some other editor attempted to clean it up and I can't find my copy of Feron. Nominate it whenever you're ready.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:21, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Whoops

I have no idea how this happened - it was entirely unintentional, and I'm sorry about it. I can't even use editing by phone/tablet as an excuse given that I'm on my PC. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 00:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

No worries, I figured it was accidental. Weird stuff happens sometimes, doesn't it? As a side note, I actually had to remove rollback from my mobile account because I kept accidentally rolling back valid edits. Parsecboy (talk) 00:32, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013

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Oops! Improper German Battleship edits

Hello Parsecboy I would like to apologize for being too eager to condense refs - I was under the impression that horizontal format was preferred to vertical due to space considerations; as you quite obviously possess more knowledge about editing than my own (admittedly-meager!) knowledge affords, I must stand corrected. I was under the impression that the more accurate the information in a reference, the better, and was surprised to find that this is apparently not the case, that the OCLC # & the information provided there for the "others=" parameter is not desired, and also that one shouldn't use "authorlink=" for someone as prominent as Friedman - my reasoning in all these cases was based on my long-ago academic experience with term-paper bibliographies, which apparently doesn't apply here; I promise to gain a clearer understanding of the citation templates' guidelines rather than simply parsing them for the information I immediately needed as has been my wont. I also see where I bollixed the gun calibers on several of these articles while thinking I was correcting a minor mistake in grammar (an obvious "rush to judgement" after finding one such instance in an article - I believe on one of the pre-dreadnought classes - and the improvident result of not doing due-diligence in carefully proof-reading what I was changing in articles on succeeding classes, on the mistaken assumption that each efn had been c/p'd - as if I hadn't already learned what granpappy meant w/ that hoary ol' saw about "assume", dadgummit!) and so again I apologize for my mistake, and will strive not to make it again. I did learn something else pretty cool when I noticed how you only fully identify Annapolis for the first ref that includes it, and that once a publishing location's been so identified, it's ok to parse further usage of the same location to simply the city name; I'll remember that, too. All in all, I now believe that I've been following a too-strict interpretation of the citation templates and a too-encyclopedic approach to crafting refs, and am chagrined that I've caused you a good deal of unneccessary work in straightening out my follies - I'll certainly strive to do better in the future! Hope you and yours have a grand day, and thanks again for showing a novice the better path! Tech77 (talk) 01:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

It's not a problem at all - things here are just about impossible to break permanently (even deleting an entire page can be undone fairly easily). The actual formatting of the reference code, whether vertical or horizontal doesn't matter, since it displays to the reader all the same. It's just easier to read expanded than all jammed together (or at least I think so). The general rule of thumb is to leave an article's reference style in whatever format the author chose to use, unless there's a good reason to change it. I didn't see you add the authorlink to Friedman (which is part of the reason I prefer to keep them expanded, since it's easier to see what fields are being used and so forth) - I'll put those back in, since we do usually link to authors. As for the "others=" parameter, you don't typically need to include people like illustrators in the citation (or at least we don't in the field of history), and for Groener specifically, Jung and Maass are editors, so you can use the "editor1-last=" field and so forth. Again, no worries, it takes a while to learn all the ins and outs around here :) And you have a great day as well! Parsecboy (talk) 14:52, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Tirpitz

Hello
You just reverted the changes I was making to the Tirpitz article; I've opened a section on the talk page there, as I think it would improve the lay-out. Currently there is a single large section on Tirpitz's activities over an 18 month period, followed by a series of sections on the British attempts to nobble her. It seems a bit unbalanced in the TOC. Anyway, your comments would be appreciated, Xyl 54 (talk) 16:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

RobDuch

You've done more US battleship articles than I have, but I just noticed that RobDuch (talk · contribs) has been going to town adding in all sorts of extra detail into the infoboxes that is best left to the main body. I've just contacted him about his changes to the Pennsy-class article, which is the first one that he's changed that I had watched and asked him to move all of his extra material into the main body. I dunno if we're gonna get any cooperation out of him, but I'd certainly prefer to avoid edit warring with him over bulking up the infoboxes so much.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm a fan of putting those types of details in prose form, as a simple table doesn't tell you why or how... the problem is how to explain that to others. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 21:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

The other problem is that for many ships, their characteristics changed several times over the course of their careers, which would require an even lengthier infobox. Parsecboy (talk) 17:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Kirill ^[talk] 16:36, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

August 2013 Milhist article contest

		The Writer's Barnstar
		For placing second in the August 2013 Military history WikiProject contest with 37 points from five entries, I am delighted to present you with The Writer's Barnstar. Well done! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:24, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new Featured and A-Class content Book reviews: Nick-D looks at the American Civil War

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Congratulations!

		The Military history A-Class medal with swords
		On behalf of the other coordinators of the Military History Wikiproject, I am very pleased to present you with this A-class medal with swords to acknowledge your success in developing SMS Pommern, List of coastal defense ships of Germany, and List of battleships of Italy to A-class status. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)