User talk:Mercresis

August 2021

Please do not remove information from articles, as you did to Ottoman miniature. Wikipedia is not censored, and content is not removed on the sole grounds of perceived offensiveness. Please discuss this issue on the article's talk page to reach consensus rather than continuing to remove the disputed material. If the content in question involves images, you also have the option to configure Wikipedia to hide the images that you may find offensive. See my edit summary as well, take care. Uness232 (talk) 01:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to assume ownership of articles, as you did at Ottoman miniature, you may be blocked from editing. Behavior such as this is regarded as disruptive, and is a violation of Wikipedia policy. Uness232 (talk) 10:43, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

January 2022

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Istanbul. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Jeppiz (talk) 23:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Mercresis respond to your suggestions for Tukey page

1) The image has indeed very low quality for the Armenian Genocide. but at least the image is rectangular (Not tall but large) and fits the page well. Usually images that are tall are more difficult to fit to the article. Like the one that you have suggested below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Column_of_deportees_walking_through_Harput_vilayet_during_the_Armenian_genocide.jpg

I honestly think that there shouldnt be an image for the genocide there. I cannot find in any other countries wiki page. Exp: In the page of Germany, there is not a single image related to the Holocaust. But this is another topic and I dont want to be the one who decide on this maybe it should be discussed in the Talk page first. you can start the discussion there if you want and if the moderators approve it. I am willing to do this change. Instead of the image of the victions we can put another image of the Three Pashas and the coup who are the main responsibles of the genocide.

2) I totally agree that Canakkale Bridge is an engineering marvel but the image is not a very good one. I am still waiting for a decent image taken with high resolution and after the completion of the bridge. A better picture would fit there. Also that section has already 2 images and the 3rd one would be automatically removed by the moderators since they usually complain about the overloading the page with images.

3) I had the same thought with you about choosing the right image for the language section. I decided to choose the Turkic languages used areas. Which is larger than the 'Organization of Turkic States'. so I decided to go with how spread the language is instead of pointing to the organization. But Can you specify why you think the organization would fit there better. I am open do discuss it in more detail.

Best regards Metuboy (talk) 13:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello Metuboy.

1) I think the 1915 Çanakkale Bridge image is good enough (when a better image comes we can replace it) because it will remain the world's longest suspension bridge for only a limited amount of time (and time is passing). Sooner or later it will be surpassed by a bridge in China or the Strait of Messina Bridge in Italy, etc..

2) You should at least move the Atatürk image to the right, because he was not connected with the Armenian issue in any way and his image immediately after the Armenian one doesn't look fair. A better placement would be at the right side, together with the women who obtained their civil rights thanks to Atatürk. Mercresis (talk) 13:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

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Too many images on Turkey page.

Hi Mercresis.

I really admire your work on Turkey page. but the page is overloaded with images. when this is the case moderators remove way more images than normal when they revise the page. So lets try to not overload each section with too many images. I try to do it in a proper way. I hope you understand my concern while trying to add more images. soon we can have last than what we had before. Metuboy (talk) 15:45, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Please could you comment more of your changes

Turkey certainly needs improvement thanks but am struggling to understand how you are changing it Chidgk1 (talk) 19:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Agree with this 100 percent. You need to use edit summaries more often. Uness232 (talk) 14:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Mercresis (talk) 15:28, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

January 2023

Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks!  // Timothy :: talk  16:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Mercresis (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 10:06, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Turkey page is editted way too often without edit summaries

Hi Mercresis.

When you are doing edits. you dont have to publish small changes constantly but collect them in one and use edit summaries It is impossible to know what you are doing. you might get a ban on this page. since the page is protected and your edits can appear as vandalising. Metuboy (talk) 11:25, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Kızılelma

Also could you please add an image of Kızılelma to the main page since drone sector of Turkey is the world leader currently Metuboy (talk) 11:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

It's impossible. The User:Modern primat has declared a war against Kızılelma images being uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, and he may be right about the "copyright" issue (I'm not sure whether the "press release images" by Baykar can be uploaded or not). I uploaded a nice photo of the Kızılelma's maiden flight, but it was deleted from Wikimedia Commons through the intervention of User:Modern primat. I'm guessing that the reason may be "political". Mercresis (talk) 09:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

thats it! stop this attack on me. im calling an admin here(or will report you). im not against kızılelma images. im against copyrighted images. i did work accordingly rules. you also attacked me on commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mercresis#File:Baykar_Bayraktar_MIUS_Kizilelma_during_its_maiden_flight_on_14_December_2022.jpg

oh yeah, probably im personally against your poltical idea and your political religion(islam). but i can do NOTHING about this in wikipedia. because if i push my ideology on wikipedia articles or commons images, this will be rule breaking. also, whatever reason that why i put your images in deletion, it is not important. and your images got deleted, thats the most important thing. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 09:59, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@JBW i saw you on recent changes. please handle this. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 10:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

go upload not copyrighted images instead attacking me. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 10:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I just made a "guess", trying to understand why someone would be so "passionate" about having dozens of Kızılelma images deleted from Wikimedia Commons (the time and effort for doing it). This was the only "logical explanation" I could think of. Mercresis (talk) 10:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

stop trying to understand. stop personal comments. user your "logical explanation" for uploading proper licensed images.

we must be "passionate" when we creating ansiklopedia(wrong word, i too lazy to fix it). take it or leave it. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 10:14, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

also you didnt just made a guess. you actually attacked on me. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 10:15, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, calm down. I really don't care much about uploading images to Wikimedia Commons. Mercresis (talk) 10:17, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Modern primat: Unfortunately I didn't check my notifications until several hours after you posted your request for my help, but I have seen it now. What exactly are you asking me to "handle"? Most of what has been written here relates to activity on commons, where I have no particular relevance. As far as I can see, the only thing on English Wikipedia that you can be referring to is the fact that Mercresis suggested you might be acting from political motives. If so, then perhaps it might have been better to have extended more assumption of good faith, but it really doesn't go as far as being an attack, and it could perhaps have been best handled by you posting a friendly message suggesting that there wasn't justification for thinking you were acting from political motives. JBW (talk) 17:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Modern primat: When I wrote my message above I had not seen your talk page and block log on Turkish Wikipedia. I have now seen them both, and with the help of Google translate I have a reasonable idea of some of the things that led to your being indefinitely blocked from editing there. You may like to think about some of the things you were told there, and consider whether any of them might be helpful to you in connection with English Wikipedia. In particular, you may like to reconsider your approach to other editors with whom you have disagreements on English Wikipedia. Possibly taking a less combative approach might be more effective in getting your points across. JBW (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

what?! im the criminal here right now?!

you first say: ""Most of what has been written here relates to activity on commons, where I have no particular relevance.""

then you say: ""your talk page and block log on Turkish Wikipedia""

tell me, are you interested in protecting users from personal attack? or choose "oh, im not active commons but you are problematic because turkish wikipedia!!". this is dissapointment. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 23:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:4nn1l2&oldid=676519682#personal i got warning just because of that in commons: """""did you remove turkish azan for your personel religous beliefs? im looking your user page, and i see you are iranian(which iran is islamic republic). just, it is a thought. if you do that, it is bad. and tomorrow, im gonna record and upload again with more PROPER ways."""""

and here, he "asking questions" in the same way and.... nothing happend about it?? wow! ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 23:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Modern primat: Please don't twist my words to make them say things that they didn't say. If you wish to make constructive and civil criticisims of what I have actually said then I shall be willing to think about those criticisms, consider what if any valid points you make, and respond to them accordingly. If, however, you are just going to apply the same battleground approach to my comments that you have done to other editors' comments, then you are going to get nowhere. If you really honestly can't understand that, then I really don't know what I can say that might be more helpful. As for "protecting users from personal attack", if you tell me what personal attack, and when and where it was made, so that I can look at it for myself, then I will be willing to consider whether there is anything to be done about it. JBW (talk) 21:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries

Note about images in country articles ....

Galleries or clusters of images are generaly discouraged as they cause undue weight to one particular section of a summary article and may cause accessibility problems(?) . See WP:GALLERY for more information......

... can create a distasteful text sandwich (depending on platform and window size).

Wide images opposite one another ...

Mul­ti­ple im­ages can be stag­gered right and left. How­ever, a­void sand­wich­ing text be­tween two im­ages that face each oth­er; or be­tween an im­age and in­fo­box, nav­i­ga­tion tem­plate, or sim­i­lar..

Moxy- 14:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello Moxy, I checked it with a smartphone, the dimensions are good (349px in total, all three fit a smartphone screen horizontally). Mercresis (talk) 14:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Okay, thank you very much. Mercresis (talk) 12:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

February 2023

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See the article Earthquakes in Turkey, where I had taken (and slightly modified) the previous text. Mercresis (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

I have undone the revision deletion, but I am not going to restore the text, because it's unsourced, and because the article Turkey is already pretty large. In the future, when you copy from one Wikipedia article to another, you need to provide attribution. This is done by saying in your edit summary that the material was copied, and where you got it. Please have a look at this edit summary for an example of how it is done. Please let me know if you have any questions, or have a look at WP:Copying within Wikipedia for more information. — Diannaa (talk) 15:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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