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FYI, at least, and I say at a minimum, one out of the list of saintly users cited above by Doc9871, Mo ainm is a supposed CLEANSTART reincarnation of an editor who very much did have a history of edit warring over these issues. And you can see from the e/s of Neil Robertson and countless other articles that All the others have also tag teamed on this issue and resorted to petty attacks, as a matter of course, rather than follow any steps in WP:DR at all. Snowded has all but given up any pretence in that regard to users who he has summarily judged as SPIs, while Domer are Mo ainm have a vast amount of experience in the game of call and counter call too as a substitute for actual civil (the do not ignore others type) discussion, while they also simply edit war while fortuitously avoiding either the bright line, or the more obvious pit fall of blatantly attacking the opponent. Bjmullen too, from a shaky start, is rapidly learning this technique too. They all also have a history of following their opponents to conflict sites, where they have never before been involved. I urge you to protect any article you ever see be disrupted like this in future, and block any editor who is the repeat cause of such disruption. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 15:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
FYI, at least, and I say at a minimum, one out of the list of saintly users cited above by Doc9871, Mo ainm is a supposed CLEANSTART reincarnation of an editor who very much did have a history of edit warring over these issues. And you can see from the e/s of Neil Robertson and countless other articles that All the others have also tag teamed on this issue and resorted to petty attacks, as a matter of course, rather than follow any steps in WP:DR at all. Snowded has all but given up any pretence in that regard to users who he has summarily judged as SPIs, while Domer are Mo ainm have a vast amount of experience in the game of call and counter call too as a substitute for actual civil (the do not ignore others type) discussion, while they also simply edit war while fortuitously avoiding either the bright line, or the more obvious pit fall of blatantly attacking the opponent. Bjmullen too, from a shaky start, is rapidly learning this technique too. They all also have a history of following their opponents to conflict sites, where they have never before been involved. I urge you to protect any article you ever see be disrupted like this in future, and block any editor who is the repeat cause of such disruption. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 15:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
:Mick, I long ago lost patience with SPAs on this and other subjects. Its not a summary judgement its plain fact that LemonMonday and LevinBoy are SPAs and that they track the subject --[[User:Snowded|<font color="#801818" face="Papyrus">'''Snowded'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Snowded#top|<font color="#708090" face="Baskerville">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> 16:15, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


== LemonMonday AN/I - Not assuming good faith ==
== LemonMonday AN/I - Not assuming good faith ==

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Hi there

I hope that whenever you have a bad day, you'll look at this smiley.:) SwisterTwister (talk) 06:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aww, thanks! GedUK  11:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tips from you

Hi Ged .I would like to have a tip from you.How can one's contribution would raise a stub-class article to a featured class article?.As an administrator can you give an instance in which your contribution paid an important role in raising a stub-class article to a featured or good class article?. Thanks very much! Suri 100 (talk) 08:24, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did a lot of work on James Cagney to get it from a C class to GA. Took a few months of work (lots of reading before hand). It's often useful to use a subpage in your userpage to layout what you want to do with it, then get some other people's opinions on your structure. GedUK  11:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Was that task quite challenging? Suri 100 (talk) 12:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I suppose so, but the best things in life often are a good challenge! GedUK  06:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 April 2011

No personal attacks ?

Hello Ged, a few points here, but not all at once since I'm short on time just now. First though - no need to shout at me on my Talk page. Shouting is bad etiquette and can be viewed as intimidatory. If you've something say please say it in a normal fashion, Thanks. Now, regarding the warning itself. I note you have singled me out, despite other editors, one in particular, using insulting language and deliberately misspelling my user name as well as engaging in other incivility. Pleas echeck it out. On the subject of the actual dispute I'm going to get back later with an explanation that shows what I have to say is correct. In the mean time you might like to brief yourself in more detail on the British Isles issue and the characters involved in this, becasue at the moment it appears to me you are taking a wholly one-sided view on this. LemonMonday Talk 13:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


OK, back online now, so here's my explanation of what's happened at Neil_Robertson_(snooker_player). I hope you'll review this and give an opinion, rather than as others have done, commented on the side issues. The story begins with the edit: [1] when, back in October 2009 an editor added referenced material stating In October 2009, Robertson clinched the Grand Prix trophy in Glasgow with a 9-4 win over China's Ding Junhui in the final. Robertson fourth title makes him the most successful player from outside the British Isles in ranking tournaments. The wording from the BBC source was His fourth title makes Robertson the most successful player from outside the British Isles in ranking tournaments. All well and good; source matches text, no problem. Fast forward to this edit [2] made by an ip on 1 May 2010. Note the (poosibly POV) replacement of British Isles with Britain and Ireland. Reverting this change is surely reasonable? now fast forward again, this time to this edit [3] made be me on 26 March this year and introducing British Isles into the text, but referenced. Maybe this was POV as well; I stand accused but make no comment here. This edit was reverted by User:Domer48 here [4]. Now go to user:LevenBoy's first edit here [5]. He is restoring the original British Isles usage, but not to the edit made by me and reverted by Domer48. The important point here is that LevenBoy is operating on the sentence beginning In October 2009, Robertson clinched the 2009 Grand Prix trophy in Glasgow ... and not on that beginning There he defeated 2006 champion Graeme Dott 18–13 to become only the third player from outside of the UK. Neverthess, Domer came along and reverted LevenBoy's edit here [6], and this is where the rot sets in; confusion reins and on we go. The problem appears to have been LevenBoy trying to "correct" the wrong part of the paragraph, then everyone getting confused.

Do you agree that LevenBoy's restoration of British Isles is reasonable? If so, here's the compromise. I'll abandon my attempt to introduce British Isles. Yes, it was well sourced, but there is an alternative source using UK and Ireland and I'll accept it. However, we also accept LevenBoy's restoration of the correct wording to the sentence he was working on, in which British Isles is used. This proposal has the advantage that both sources come from the reputable BBC, rather than one from the BBC and one from the Telegraph, so we have a bit of consistency for what it's worth. If you do agree, then perhaps you could un-protect the article and suggest we proceed as outlined here. Thanks. LemonMonday Talk 19:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A cheezburgr for you

LemonMonday

Could you have a look at this more personal attacks from LM. Mo ainm~Talk 21:26, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Something needs to be done about this menace. Bjmullan (talk) 22:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And the alter ego, they edit in collusion, both are SPAs and I can't believe they aren't socks of some type. I have thought they might be linked to Irvine22 who is a veritable sock farm since he was blocked. --Snowded TALK 22:11, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Combined history of blocks for disruption of LemonMonday and LevenBoy: 10
Combined history of blocks for disruption of Mo anim, Snowded, Bjmullan, GoodDay & myself: 0
We have all dealt with these two accounts for quite some time, and their last compatriot Triton Rocker (talk · contribs) was sent up the river permanently for identical behavior. The number of AN/I, 3RR, WQA, SPI etc. threads based on these two is quite alarming. The bad edits far outweigh the good, enough so that they should unarguably be considered "disruption-only accounts". They wiki-hound editors after periods of "slumber" and clearly exist only to cause problems and to disrupt the project to prove a point. Blocks should once again be instituted in order to prevent the future disruption that they are proven and guaranteed to cause. There's no need to protect even one more page because of their activities and edit-warring agendas. Doc talk 07:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, at least, and I say at a minimum, one out of the list of saintly users cited above by Doc9871, Mo ainm is a supposed CLEANSTART reincarnation of an editor who very much did have a history of edit warring over these issues. And you can see from the e/s of Neil Robertson and countless other articles that All the others have also tag teamed on this issue and resorted to petty attacks, as a matter of course, rather than follow any steps in WP:DR at all. Snowded has all but given up any pretence in that regard to users who he has summarily judged as SPIs, while Domer are Mo ainm have a vast amount of experience in the game of call and counter call too as a substitute for actual civil (the do not ignore others type) discussion, while they also simply edit war while fortuitously avoiding either the bright line, or the more obvious pit fall of blatantly attacking the opponent. Bjmullen too, from a shaky start, is rapidly learning this technique too. They all also have a history of following their opponents to conflict sites, where they have never before been involved. I urge you to protect any article you ever see be disrupted like this in future, and block any editor who is the repeat cause of such disruption. MickMacNee (talk) 15:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mick, I long ago lost patience with SPAs on this and other subjects. Its not a summary judgement its plain fact that LemonMonday and LevinBoy are SPAs and that they track the subject --Snowded TALK 16:15, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LemonMonday AN/I - Not assuming good faith

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