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Most of the time you create articles in a poor, almost incomprehensible English. Please try to make some efforts or make [[WP:DRAFTS]] and ask for people to help you. Take this as an advice as well as a warning because you have [[User_talk:Angel_Angel_2#Hi|already been warned]] by {{Ping|Cplakidas}}. [[User:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[User talk:Veverve|talk]]) 20:36, 29 December 2019 (UTC) |
Most of the time you create articles in a poor, almost incomprehensible English. Please try to make some efforts or make [[WP:DRAFTS]] and ask for people to help you. Take this as an advice as well as a warning because you have [[User_talk:Angel_Angel_2#Hi|already been warned]] by {{Ping|Cplakidas}}. [[User:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[User talk:Veverve|talk]]) 20:36, 29 December 2019 (UTC) |
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== Ways to improve Macedonian refugees in Atalanti == |
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[[User:Nick Moyes|I]] have tagged [[Macedonian refugees in Atalanti|the page]] as having some issues to fix, as a part of our [[WP:NPP|page curation process]] and note that: |
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Legisprudence moved to draftspace
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Yordan Ivanov
Hi. Please don't hijack an existing article and change it being about someone else. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 21:08, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Category:Rebellion of the Seimens and Home Guard has been nominated for discussion
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The article The Legend of Mehmed Sultan has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
obvious mere machine translation done using Google Translate on the Serbian article.
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December 2019
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Yordan Ivanov (bobsledder) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
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Vlach-Bulgarian royal charters moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Vlach-Bulgarian royal charters, seems controversial, and relies on sources only on one side of the question. . It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources to provide a WP:NPOV. . I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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And relies on sources only on one side of the question
I did not understand that. Which is the other one? Can you explain! Angel Angel 2 (talk) 22:28, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Angel Angel 2, I've done the same for Catholic propaganda in the Balkans in the 17th century. The crux is WP:NPOV: articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, based on up-to-date reliable sources. The article about the Catholic "propaganda" was based entirely on Bulgarian sources from the 19th and early 20th centuries. How history was written then is different from how history is written now, and the Bulgarian viewpoint espoused there is not necessarily the viewpoint appropriate for a global encyclopedia. – Uanfala (talk) 13:43, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
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Your contributed article, Irene Palaiologina (Eulogy)
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Hi! Thanks for creating some interesting articles, but please be advised that a) you should have some knowledge of the topics you write on, and b) that your English should be sufficient to the task of writing an encyclopedia in English. From what I have seen, you simply translate articles from other languages and use a smattering of online sources, without trying to write a coherent narrative. This contravenes both the points raised above: Google Translate is no substitution for a good working knowledge of English, and simply using whatever source you come across and jumbling it together into a pastiche of an article is not enough either. Please take more time and devote more care in writing your articles, so that they are of a higher quality. Creating many articles quickly only to have them deleted, redirected, or having to be extensively reworked by others before they become legible is not a worthy goal. Cheers, and a happy holiday season to you. Constantine ✍ 12:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- PS, when you translate from other Wikipedia projects, you are legally required to state so and annotate the article, as described in WP:TFOLWP. Constantine ✍ 14:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- At Annexation of Thessaly and Arta, you write "The High Gate attempts to deflect Greek territorial claims quite reasonably from Epirus and Thessaly - to Crete after another Cretan revolt (1878). However, the Greek government itself rejects them, knowing that Crete will not escape it unlike Macedonia." This is cited to this page, which says nothing of the sort. Do you understand Greek at all? If not, then please stop using/referencing Greek sources.
- Now it is pretty evident from your general editing that you have a certain pro-Bulgarian and anti-Greek stance on these matters (name-dropping Bulgaria in irrelevant topics, making Greece seem unreasonable to even want to claim Macedonia, etc.). I cannot determine how much of this is because you translate from the Bulgarian WP (which I fully expect to be filled with Bulgarian nationalist POV in the same way as the Greek WP is with the Greek one) or your own. Neither is tolerated, however: WP:NPOV is a core pillar of Wikipedia, especially in sensitive historical matters. Editors are expected to leave their biases at the door, and to check their material for such bias.
- But the piece I quoted above is not translated, it is your own, original work, and it is not only nationalist WP:OR, it is a clear attempt to deceive the readers by adding a bogus reference. So consider yourself warned: Wikipedia is not here to promote nationalist analyses, regardless from which side they come. There are severe sanctions in place for anyone engaging in that sort of behaviour on Balkans-related topics. On the next transgression, you will get reported to WP:ANI. Constantine ✍ 09:34, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Nothing of the kind. You are biased and subjective. And you are accusing nationalism of going from your own "I" to a subconscious level.
Which is not true? Yes, the source is for another Greek. But this is the most substantial. And why would the article be redirected, given the facts about Thessaly and Arta, towards Macedonia? Angel Angel 2 (talk) 11:32, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- You keep missing the point and proving mine: For example, "Yes, the source is for another Greek. But this is the most substantial." What is that supposed to mean? What is "for another Greek"? What is the "this" in "this is the most substantial"? That is not comprehensible English. What I can sort-of-guess-at what you are driving has no bearing on the point I raised above: the source you used as a reference does not support what you made it out to claim. Now either you knew that and deliberately tried to mislead the readers, which is grounds for being blocked on WP, or you didn't (because you don't know Greek) in which case you have proven to be (to put it mildly) negligent with using sources and do not have the competence to edit in such delicate matters such as this.
- For "And why would the article be redirected, given the facts about Thessaly and Arta, towards Macedonia?" again, what are you talking about? I really can't understand what argument you are trying to make here. Your English is not good, I am afraid. Again, from what I can guess you may be trying to say (but may be completely wrong), the articles deal with the same topic, i.e., how Greece got Arta and Thessaly; ergo one of the articles is redundant; of the two articles, one is far less biased than the other (see above for why), and older, which gives it precedence. Do the math. Constantine ✍ 11:44, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- To put it even more clearly, compare your initial draft with the current state of Irene Komnene Palaiologina. No-one expects you to make perfect articles from the get go, but when you are unable to translate the name correctly ("Eulogy") and even mix the gender pronouns ("He stood at the head of the Orthodox Party, strongly opposed to his brother's Uniate policy") without correcting it, then you clearly don't spend enough time with your articles. I repeat: you cannot expect other editors to correct your mistakes; you need to assume editorial responsibility, which includes looking for reliable sources, watching out for neutral point of view, and readable prose in English. If you don't do that, then don't be surprised when your work gets short shrift. Good intentions are, unfortunately, not enough. Constantine ✍ 12:01, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
I conclude the discussion: Territorial annexation at a particular time in a particular territory is a completely different concept from the international treaty under which it was implemented.
Example: Alsace-Lorraine and the Treaty of Frankfurt (1871).
The end.
The article International Committee of Slavists has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
It exists, and there are many mentions in lists, but I can't find any in-depth coverage of this organization to show it passes WP:GNG or WP:ORGDEPTH.
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December 2019
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Petar Bogdan, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 13:06, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- "Propaganda" in Latin means "propogation" and does not refer to what you think it does, as does the English word. Elizium23 (talk) 13:09, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Category:Catholic propagandists in the Balkans has been nominated for discussion
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Please improve the English of your pages!
Most of the time you create articles in a poor, almost incomprehensible English. Please try to make some efforts or make WP:DRAFTS and ask for people to help you. Take this as an advice as well as a warning because you have already been warned by @Cplakidas:. Veverve (talk) 20:36, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Ways to improve Macedonian refugees in Atalanti
Hello, Angel Angel 2,
Thank you for creating Macedonian refugees in Atalanti.
I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:
This article appears to be a direct translation from this article on Bulgarian Wikipedia, yet you have not credited that as a source. This is a breach of our policies, yet you can easily fix this by following the advice on how to attribute content to those editors. See WP:TFOLWP for details.
The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Nick Moyes}}
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