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If I may be frank, there is a blatant error in this article. The ''Shinano'' was, in actuality, sunk by four torpedoes, not six. I have read the book ''Sea Assault'' by Captain Joseph Enright himself, and indeed, six torpedoes were launched. The spread was planned that the first would pass by the stern, four would impact, and the last would pass by the bow, to ensure maximum number of hits in the event that the firing solution was not perfect. I have tried multiple times to rectify this error, and each time my work is erased, reverted back to the origional false information.
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A second, less well-known error refers to the format of the American submarine's name. Again revealed in the book ''Sea Assault'', the name is actually spelled as ''Archer-Fish'', not ''Archerfish'', although that is what many military documents refer to her as. This, in fact, was a minor point of frustration among the crew, that all mail relayed to them while in port had their beloved sub's name spelled incorrectly.
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I hope this helps to clarify the current editing situation, and that when I work to correct these errors, you will read this before erasing my work; surprisingly, sometimes a 14-year-old boy ''does'' know what he's talking about!<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:WWII freak|WWII freak]] ([[User talk:WWII freak|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WWII freak|contribs]]) 17:15, 9 August 2006.</small>
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Please notice that Shinano was not sunk because hull compartimentation was not completed. It was. Else it wouldn't have been launched.
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Usually a Yamato-class hull could have handled much more than 4 submarine torpedoes, and this damage would under normal conditions have been quite minor.
The problem was that the conditions were not normal. The carrier was not commissioned, but just moved from one dock to another, with a skeleton crew and a lot of workers still working on her. As a result of the ongoing work, hull compartments were not sealed to let the workers move around. And skeleton crew meant no damage control.
Add the skipepr inexperience and you understand why a minor hull damage worsened up to the sinking of a carrier.


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I would suggest to change the paragraph on the reasons of the sinking.
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Please back up your statements. The Shinano sank because of the failure of the anti-torpedo blisters, not because of the lack of damage control. If the anti-torpedo blisters worked properly, the explosions from the torpedoes would have been deflected or absorbed with minimal damage. They failed, though, which resulted in large holes just below the waterline. This led to water entering high on the hull, which resulted in the Shinano capsizing. I also doubt that any crew could have saved the Shinano for several reasons. Firstly, one of the damage control centers was flooded within moments of one of the torpedo hits. This led to a lack of coordination since the only othe damage control center was located on the bridge. Secondly, one torpedo hit a gasoline storage tank. This increased its destructive power and caused even more devastation. Third, the engines were flooded. This led to a loss of power. Lastly, the location of the hits on the hull led to a severe list, which greatly hampered damage control efforts. Your claim that the skipper was inexperienced is only partially true. While he had no experience commanding a capital ship, he had plenty of experience as a destroyer captain. If everything worked as planned, then the Shinano might have survived, and if she didn't survive, you would be right. If you are curious as to my source, it's the same as WWII freak.[[User:Prehistoricman5|Prehistoricman5]] 01:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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== Minor changes ==

nmi --> nm

145 x 25mm ---> 145 - 25mm

spelling errors corrected

ongoing construction/outfitting info added in relevant areas

life as a Yamato class battleship edited for emphasis on conversion

[[User:Jcforge|Jcforge]] 17:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Shinano had 50 Oka kamikazes on board when sunk ==

Shinano was carrying a cargo of 50 Oka (Cherry Blossom) Model 11 glide bombs when sunk.

Zero! by Masatake Okumiya, Jiro Horikoshi, Martin Caidin
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*Is there any way to confirm this? [[User:BiggKwell|Elwin Blaine Coldiron]] 02:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== A small discrepancy ==
There seems to be a discrepancy about what carrier followed the Shinano as the largest ever aircraft carrier. The USS Forrestal is stated to be the largest since Shinano on its page, while the USS Enterprise is mentioned as the next "largest ever built" here. The Forrestal had a higher full load displacement than the Shinano and was commissioned before the Enterprise so I'm changing the Shinano page to point at Forrestal instead of Enterprise. [[Special:Contributions/85.83.127.1|85.83.127.1]] ([[User talk:85.83.127.1|talk]]) 21:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


SHINANO SHOULD BE CLASSES AS A ww2 ERA SUPER CARRIER. THIS IS BECAUSE IT HAD A HUGE TONNAGE FOR ITS AGE AND WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE NIMITZ BACK THEN LOZL HAHTROUIAEHT <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.160.170.135|58.160.170.135]] ([[User talk:58.160.170.135|talk]]) 11:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Abe's promotion ==

The article mentions that Abe was due to be promoted to rear admiral once Shinano completed her fitting-out and take command of a fleet of attack carriers being built up in the east. Does this refer to the Unryu-class carriers that were under construction at that time? If so, this article ought to link to that page.
[[User:Jgoulden|Jgoulden]] ([[User talk:Jgoulden|talk]]) 18:30, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


== Contradiction in "Commissioning and Sinking" ==

The second paragraph of the section states "four of the carrier's 12 boilers were '''not''' in service due to lack of parts." The next paragraph after that, however, says "Shinano was also slowed by having only four out of 12 boilers running, as the rest were still nonoperational.", meaning only four boilers '''were''' in service. Which is correct? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.42.170.249|66.42.170.249]] ([[User talk:66.42.170.249|talk]]) 16:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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== Attempting Search of Shinano by Robert Ballard ==
Back in the early 1950s there were some newspaper results that the wreck of the "Shinano" had been located and surveyed. At the same time there was also some discussion that the wreck could be raised. One such source was "The Navy" magazine (1952)?


as I'm look a book that I read '''Graveyards of of Pacific''' that I have hand on, in ''page 228'' that [[Robert Ballard]] the on who found [[Wreck of the Titanic]] was mentioned state, actually trying gave permission to search Shinano from Japanese government but they denied permission to enter Japanese water
If these details could be located it may well be possible to settle the various arguments about the number of torpedoes and the ensuing damage.[[User:AT Kunene|AT Kunene]] ([[User talk:AT Kunene|talk]]) 08:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


On my theory, Japanese Government are may deliberately try to protect grave, but we don't uncertainly sure
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For above pleae read newspaper articles and not results.[[User:AT Kunene|AT Kunene]] ([[User talk:AT Kunene|talk]]) 08:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I think is should add in Wikipedia for sure [[User:Comander1242|Comander1242]] ([[User talk:Comander1242|talk]]) 09:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:32, 20 October 2024

Featured articleJapanese aircraft carrier Shinano is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Featured topic starJapanese aircraft carrier Shinano is part of the Yamato-class battleships series, a good topic. It is also part of the Battleships of Japan series, a featured topic. These are identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve them, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on October 8, 2015.
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Attempting Search of Shinano by Robert Ballard

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as I'm look a book that I read Graveyards of of Pacific that I have hand on, in page 228 that Robert Ballard the on who found Wreck of the Titanic was mentioned state, actually trying gave permission to search Shinano from Japanese government but they denied permission to enter Japanese water

On my theory, Japanese Government are may deliberately try to protect grave, but we don't uncertainly sure

I think is should add in Wikipedia for sure Comander1242 (talk) 09:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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