Talk:Guha (surname)

Guha and Guhan are different

Guha and Guhan may have common roots, but they are different. Guha is a Bengali Hindu surname. If Guhan or Guha is another name for Kartik, then we should have a disambiguation page rather than a merge. I am therefore removing the merge proposal. BengaliHindu (talk) 14:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Kulin Kayastha or Brahmins

Editors, please note that Guha is a Brahmin surname in South India, whereas it is a Kayastha surname of the Kulin order, in West Bengal and Bangladesh. Amicus autem populus (talk) 16:15, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

An example of a Brahmin Guha is Ramchandra Guha, a prominent Indian historian. He was born into a Tamil Brahmin household. Amicus autem populus (talk) 16:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Please cite reliable and verifiable source(s) as per WP:RS & WP:V. Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 10:18, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

I have provided the necessary and verifiable source... Please consult the link provided in References Amicus autem populus (talk) 11:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Please consult See Also for further references Amicus autem populus (talk) 08:24, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

No such source is available. Do share the source i.e. the url here itself so that the same can be verified. In between, stop your edits till we arrive at a consensus. You are constantly violating the policies of Wikipedia, and you may be banned from further editing, if you continue with such usourced and unconstructive POV edits. Ekdalian (talk) 08:48, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

The so-called reference you had added, which has been removed in the next revision, is a copy of Wikipedia itself, and therefore not a reliable source for Wikipedia. Ekdalian (talk) 09:24, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

The source provided is reliable and has been verified by Wikipedia itself... Please scroll down the page for authenticity of the source and verification by Wikipedia. Thanks you Amicus autem populus (talk) 03:38, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Please check the url on See Also Amicus autem populus (talk) 03:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Members of the Kulin Kayastha community are putative Kshatriyas and mostly Brahmins, as per Wikipedia. Let facts be as it is. Stating the truth isn't vandalism, Mr. Ekdalian. Amicus autem populus (talk) 03:43, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Mr. Ekdalian ... This is to inform you that Guhathakurata/ Guhathakurtas are infact Kulin Kayasthas and there is nothing wrong or 'puffed up' with this article. This article is devoid of any factual error and you are advised not to indulge in such editing endeavours, which may render this article erroneous. Thank you. Amicus autem populus (talk) 08:13, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I have attached another link with See also... Kindly take the trouble of going through it thoroughly before deeming it unreliable. Thank you Amicus autem populus (talk) 08:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

• Amicus autem populus if you change the article again without first getting consensus to do so, I will find someone to block you from editing. This is a collaborative project, not one where you can steamroller your opinion into an article. You cannot make a comment here and then change the article based on it - you must get agreement to do so first. If there is a stalemate in discussions then we have dispute resolution procedures to resolve the issue. - Sitush (talk) 11:13, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Editors, please consult Ramchandra Guha's Early Life and education on Wikipedia before editing back. Amicus autem populus (talk) 09:14, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

You added the "Brahmin" claim to the Ramachandra Guha article: the source cited in the article does not support this claim, and clearly states that "Guha" in "Ramachandra Guha" is not the Bengali surname - he is from a Tamil family. utcursch | talk 01:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Guha and Guhathakurta

Editors please note that Guha and Guhathakurta aren't different. To be specific 'Guha' is the surname, and 'Thakurta' /'Thakurata' is the title. Many prefer to stick with Guhathakurata/ Guhathakurta, but due to confusion in the spelling and spacing of 'Thakurta', many others have started using only Guha as their surname. Semper Curious (talk) 15:32, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Discuss

"The Bengali Kayasthas evolved as a caste from a category of officials, Between the 5th/6th century AD and 11th/12th century AD, its component elements being putative Kshatriyas and mostly Brahmins" Ekdalian LukeEmily in which basics this line is written here?? the varna status of Kayasthas are disputed. even according to some sources present in many caste articles vaidyas and Kayastha are drawn from various varnas. why it is written here kayastahs are drawn from Kshatriyas and mostly brahmins???this thing is present in other kayastha surname articles such as bose,ghose,mitra,dutta.Nobita456 (talk) 10:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey, this is not at all related to varna status; read carefully, this is about the component elements who initially formed the caste. And more or less, almost all reliable sources agree on the same. Ekdalian (talk) 10:31, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

So am I allowed to write the same in Baidya surnames??? I found some sources that clearly said Baidyas was formed by brahmins. Nobita456 (talk)

Reliable & verifiable sources required! Same should be supported by multiple reliable authors, though we can cite one or two such sources after discussions on the relevant article's talk page. Ekdalian (talk) 13:12, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Recent Revert: Nov '24

I have restored the long-standing consensus version along with some relevant changes. In case any editor wants to remove reliably sourced content, please read WP:REMOVAL and achieve consensus here! I believe, the information available in the article is relevant as far as our readers are concerned. @Arjayay, LukeEmily, and Adamantine123: would request you to share your opinion here. Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

How come you didn't ping Ratnahastin who rightly removed your caste glorification months ago but have canvassed those editors who are uninvolved in this dispute? CharlesWain (talk) 10:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Ratnahastin would automatically get involved since this article must be a part of their watchlist! I have pinged uninvolved editors for neutral opinion! Ekdalian (talk) 10:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

This is a textbook case of canvassing. - Ratnahastin (talk) 10:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

The content you restored has nothing to do with this surname or its history. This is a surname list and should only reflect that. - Ratnahastin (talk) 10:41, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I would like to remind all of you the comment of Admin Vanamonde93 on Saini (surname). In Indian context surnames have association with particular caste; no one can deny that. Even Fylindfotberserk agreed to it at one article's talk page. For protecting BLP violation we can put a disclaimer that particular surname donot belong to particular caste. Adamantine123 (talk) 13:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)