Describe below which "refs include unreliable, unreviewed, pop-science hype and WP:FRINGE material", and bring evidence with each of your asserts (your own sentiment about what your are naively considering unreliable, unreviewed, pop-science hype and WP:FRINGE material is not at all an evidence, of course). Try to convince us. Have a nice day. --[[Special:Contributions/91.169.1.118|91.169.1.118]] ([[User talk:91.169.1.118|talk]]) 19:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Describe below which "refs include unreliable, unreviewed, pop-science hype and WP:FRINGE material", and bring evidence with each of your asserts (your own sentiment about what your are naively considering unreliable, unreviewed, pop-science hype and WP:FRINGE material is not at all an evidence, of course). Try to convince us. Have a nice day. --[[Special:Contributions/91.169.1.118|91.169.1.118]] ([[User talk:91.169.1.118|talk]]) 19:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
:Let's see. [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10509-018-3365-3 D'Agostini and Petit (2018)] is a recent, unevaluated [[WP:PRIMARY|primary]] source, and the only citations to it have been by [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=4921324693259829002&as_sdt=40000005&sciodt=0,22&hl=en&num=20 the authors themselves]. For our purposes, that's worthless. Next is [https://www.academia.edu/38606197/Bibliographie_du_mod%C3%A8le_cosmologique_Janus_Bibliography_of_the_Janus_cosmological_model a bibliography] hosted on [[Academia.edu]], which counts for nothing, and it degenerates into a ramble at the end which makes enough claims about enough people that relying on it would violate [[WP:BLP]] as well as [[WP:RS]]. The sentence {{tq|Among them, the [[Janus cosmological model]] is the most advanced model}} is completely unsupported by reliable sources and cannot be said in Wikipedia's voice. The [https://web.archive.org/web/20061204113609/http://www2.iap.fr/users/riazuelo/cosmo/jpp/p2.html archived web page by Riazuelo] may be acceptable under [[WP:SPS]], but it calls Petit's work garbage, and you might not want to include that one after all. Riazuelo concludes that "JPP" makes {{tq|Plusieurs erreurs de base ... qui disqualifient irrémédiablement le modèle}}. [https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2018/12/aa32898-18.pdf Farnes (2018)] mentions Petit and d'Agostini only to dismiss their theory in a single sentence as "incompatible with observations". If this citation is supposed to support the claim that the Janus cosmological model has been {{tq|deeply ... discussed among cosmologists}}, well, it doesn't. Next we have [http://www.ihes.fr/~damour/publications/JanusJanvier2019-1.pdf Damour (2019)], who says that {{tq|le "modèle Janus" est physiquement (et mathématiquement) incohérent}}. None of these amount to support for the idea that the Janus model {{tq|is the most advanced model}}, to say the least. [https://www.darksideofgravity.com/Consistency.pdf Next] we have another [[WP:PRIMARY|primary]] source, not even formally published, by [https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/52474130.pdf a collaborator of Petit]. Then we have a primary source, published yet too new to have been evaluated by the wider community, which [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bimetric_gravity&type=revision&diff=888967669&oldid=888955352 I removed already].
:Yeah, not looking good so far. [[User:XOR'easter|XOR'easter]] ([[User talk:XOR'easter|talk]]) 20:02, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
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Not without a solid consensus that the "reused" content, which was removed for good reason, is actually compliant with Wikipedia's policies. And citation spamming with every paper, news story and blog post that mentions a tangentially relevant topic is not the foundation of a working editorial relationship. XOR'easter (talk) 17:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Describe below which "refs include unreliable, unreviewed, pop-science hype and WP:FRINGE material", and bring evidence with each of your asserts (your own sentiment about what your are naively considering unreliable, unreviewed, pop-science hype and WP:FRINGE material is not at all an evidence, of course). Try to convince us. Have a nice day. --91.169.1.118 (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Let's see. D'Agostini and Petit (2018) is a recent, unevaluated primary source, and the only citations to it have been by the authors themselves. For our purposes, that's worthless. Next is a bibliography hosted on Academia.edu, which counts for nothing, and it degenerates into a ramble at the end which makes enough claims about enough people that relying on it would violate WP:BLP as well as WP:RS. The sentence Among them, the Janus cosmological model is the most advanced model is completely unsupported by reliable sources and cannot be said in Wikipedia's voice. The archived web page by Riazuelo may be acceptable under WP:SPS, but it calls Petit's work garbage, and you might not want to include that one after all. Riazuelo concludes that "JPP" makes Plusieurs erreurs de base ... qui disqualifient irrémédiablement le modèle. Farnes (2018) mentions Petit and d'Agostini only to dismiss their theory in a single sentence as "incompatible with observations". If this citation is supposed to support the claim that the Janus cosmological model has been deeply ... discussed among cosmologists, well, it doesn't. Next we have Damour (2019), who says that le "modèle Janus" est physiquement (et mathématiquement) incohérent. None of these amount to support for the idea that the Janus model is the most advanced model, to say the least. Next we have another primary source, not even formally published, by a collaborator of Petit. Then we have a primary source, published yet too new to have been evaluated by the wider community, which I removed already.