Module talk:Iraqi insurgency detailed map

Proposal to switch all Iraq and Syria Updates to Syria/Iraq Combined Module

Since since this is increasingly expanding, for ease of updating, I propose both Syria and Iraq updates be discussed here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Syrian_and_Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map/doc&action=edit and that joint map be the sole map with this and the Syrian one dropped for ease of editing, discussion, and debate. Its easier for all involved without having to switch in between modules. Tgoll774 (talk) 15:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

No personal preference, though because you added this to the top of the talk page, people may miss it entirely as they scroll to the bottom to read new things. Banak (talk) 20:05, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

I'll add it to the bottom as well then. Tgoll774 (talk) 22:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Alas & Ajeel oilfields

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnonPrykrLY Purportedly taken in these fields. IS claims control. Tgoll774 (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Baghdadi

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDiJwKUWgAAMvxy.png:large IS claim to have cut the road to it and the nearby base and taken a third of the city. Tgoll774 (talk) 18:49, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Kirkuk Province

https://twitter.com/shlonesh/status/596309461582651392/photo/1 claim by IS to have taken some fields. As is typical it might be so, but ISF won't admit for a few days as they are attempting to get it back Tgoll774 (talk) 16:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Bayshir

https://twitter.com/shlonesh/status/592342117583826944/photo/1 There has been quite a few IS releases from that area and even Shia sources talk about fighting there. Can someone check on it and see what the ISF sources say? Tgoll774 (talk) 15:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/50-isis-elements-control-bashir-village-kirkuk/ Fourth time IS took it. Tgoll774 (talk) 18:59, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Baiji Refinery

https://twitter.com/SeniorB/status/592224791832166400 Pro-Kurdish Rudaw Reporter and if true, IS forces are deep in Baiji Refinery and it needs to turn to contested. Tgoll774 (talk) 11:38, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDiZvAqWMAICDOa.png Pro-ISIS source It looks like a third of the refinery captured and the place cut off which aligns with other IS sources saying they cut it off and are clearing the barracks. Leave to our Arab speakers to check other sources for corroboration. Tgoll774 (talk) 18:42, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/shlonesh/status/592672236353499137

https://dump.to/bn1

If these are true, Baiji Refinery has been overrun, leave it here to corroborate with other sources Tgoll774 (talk) 14:46, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

https: // justpaste. it/ kt8t If true, then again Baiji is overrun Tgoll774 (talk) 13:06, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOh6N-g0B4Q&feature=youtu.be Baiji must go to contested. IS fighters are clearly in the Czech Barracks and the Distillery towers. Tgoll774 (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUeTsMGvcRY This clinches it, Baiji is clearly being contested, if not taken by IS. Tgoll774 (talk) 11:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpo4QjsOPIQ Al-Jazeera Tgoll774 (talk) 13:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

80 percent of the refinery was held by the IS group. A second senior Energy Police official said recently but still the refinery isnt shows contested why?

source http://www.iraqoilreport.com/news/iraqi-forces-overpowered-at-baiji-refinery-14460/ http://english.shafaaq.com/security/14184-isis-controls-half-of-baiji-refinery-sites-in-its-20th-attack.html

(Jack6780 (talk) 23:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwXyLq4Qlw&feature=youtu.be The evidence is overwhelming that IS controls the vast majority of Baiji Refinery and it needs to switch to IS Control Tgoll774 (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/04/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-refinery-idUSKBN0NP1L320150504?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

Confirms Baiji City under IS control. Tgoll774 (talk) 23:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thar Thar Dam

https://twitter.com/shnoya3nii/status/591652918044073985/photo/1 Can someone check this out on the Arabic Channels. IS claims control of this. Tgoll774 (talk) 20:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

https://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2437722&Language=en Confirmed by this source. IS can't open those gates unless they control them. Tgoll774 (talk) 02:19, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Who switched Tharthar Dam back to ISF without citing a source for it? Its under IS control as confirmed above and IS video feed. Tgoll774 (talk) 00:38, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/04/islamic-state-captures-dam-overruns-base-in-western-iraq.php Tgoll774 (talk) 01:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

What source says Tharthar Dam was retaken, I don't see a supporting cite saying it was reclaimed by ISF. Tgoll774 (talk) 12:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Tharthar Dam is still held by IS. ISF has not taken it back. Tgoll774 (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Still no evidence provided that Tharthar Dam was retaken by ISF, it should revert back to IS control based on LWJ Tgoll774 (talk) 16:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2015

ANBAR PROVINCE:

Abu Ghraib:

Change:

{ lat = "33.292", long = "44.066", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "9", label = "Abu Ghraib", link = "Abu Ghraib", label_size = "0" }, to:

{ lat = "33.292", long = "44.066", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "9", label = "Abu Ghraib", link = "Abu Ghraib", label_size = "0" },

Amiriyat al-Fallujah

Change:

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to:

{ lat = "33.179", long = "43.855", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "7", label = "Amiriyat al-Fallujah", link = "Amiriyat al-Fallujah", label_size = "0", position = "top", },

Al Zaidan

Change:

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to:

{ lat = "33.25", long = "44.033", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Al Zaidan", link = "Al Zaidan", label_size = "0", position = "right" },

Saladin PROVINCE:

Dijlah:

Change:

{ lat = "34.369", long = "43.764", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "5", label = "Dijlah", link = "Dijlah", label_size = "0" },

to:

{ lat = "34.369", long = "43.764", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "5", label = "Dijlah", link = "Dijlah", label_size = "0" },

Mukayshfah:

Change:

{ lat = "34.367", long = "43.743", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "5", label = "Mukayshfah", link = "Mukayshfah", label_size = "0" },

to: { lat = "34.367", long = "43.743", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "5", label = "Mukayshfah", link = "Mukayshfah", label_size = "0" },

Nebai:

Change:

{ lat = "33.823", long = "44.129", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "6", label = "Nebai", link = "Nebai", label_size = "0", position = "top", },

to:

{ lat = "33.823", long = "44.129", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Nebai", link = "Nebai", label_size = "0", position = "top", },

SOURCE: http://isis.liveuamap.com/--0ali1 (talk) 07:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Source isn't reliable at all, many mistakes on the map, but i did provide reliable source about about Dijlah and Mukayshfah, I don't know why they didn't change it. Ricardomoha (talk) 11:16, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

@Richardomoha they were changed to red but later they were changed back to contested.--0ali1 (talk) 11:21, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Found a source that shows that Abu ghraib, Al-zaidan, Amiriyat_al-Fallujah are under the ISF Control. http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-map-update-iraqi-army-making-huge-strides-al-anbar-governorate/#prettyPhoto

It's a pro Iraqi source we can't take it as an evidence, but my Nytimes map shows that Abu gharib and al zaidan are with goverment, Amiriya is still contested. Ricardomoha (talk) 11:51, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Kharkiv07^Talk 19:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2015

change

{ lat = "36.335", long = "43.118", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "26.5", label = "Mosul", link = "Mosul", position = "left" },

to

{ lat = "36.350", long = "43.155", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "35", label = "Mosul", link = "Mosul", position = "left" },

and

{ lat = "36.301", long = "43.148", mark = "Fighter-jet-black-icon.svg", marksize = "11", label = "Mosul International Airport ", link = "Mosul International Airport", label_size = "0", position = "right" },

to

{ lat = "36.301", long = "43.156", mark = "Fighter-jet-black-icon.svg", marksize = "11", label = "Mosul International Airport ", link = "Mosul International Airport", label_size = "0", position = "right" },

source:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mosul,+Iraq/@36.3528982,43.1406498,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x40079464db1a88b9:0x9745d74edd0f0930

Changing the city of Mosul: more accurate coordinates and slightly bigger (more accurate) size. Also slightly changed location of Mosul Airport to still be visible.

2601:0:B200:F7D9:9C84:2F90:F8EC:86BF (talk) 01:47, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done for now: Can you provide a specific link, instead of just looking at a google map? Kharkiv07^Talk 19:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2015

Nowres (talk) 11:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

 Not done as you have not requested a change. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 15:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Status of Iraqi border crossings

http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Control%20Zone%20Map_5_1_15.pdf

This article, from a reliable source, states that Walid border crossing may be under ISIS control, and that control of the Trebil border crossing is unclear. Now, we have both Walid and Trebil listed as under government control. Should they be changed to contested, or perhaps only Walid? I can't seem to find any other sourced indicating control of these crossings. 2601:0:B200:F7D9:9D20:3A1A:2CA1:AE09 (talk) 19:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

If ISW has no data on it why should we change the status of the border crossings? https://pietervanostaeyen.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/2000px-iraq10.png here a map from anti gov.Spenk01 (talk) 20:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Area where located the Al Wallid border crossing under control by Iraqi troops. This confirmed (pro Syrian opposition) sources.herehere Hanibal911 (talk) 21:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you all for helping determine the status of the control of these border crossings.2601:0:B200:F7D9:4839:1AB:A62B:CDB5 (talk) 02:24, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Baiji Oil Refinery

Islamic State have taken control of 90 percent of Baiji oil refinery after clashes with Iraqi security forces around the refinery continue and nearly 150 Iraqi soldiers and soldiers were surrounded by the militants inside.WAR Media Hanibal911 (talk) 14:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to switch all Iraq and Syria Updates to Syria/Iraq Combined Module

Since since this is increasingly expanding, for ease of updating, I propose both Syria and Iraq updates be discussed here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Syrian_and_Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map/doc&action=edit and that joint map be the sole map with this and the Syrian one dropped for ease of editing, discussion, and debate. Its easier for all involved without having to switch in between modules.Tgoll774 (talk) 22:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Agree. I think this will make it far easier for people to see edits in both maps, and will streamline the process of editing both. 2601:C7:8380:3B01:58E0:9F82:69B5:5ADD (talk) 03:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I disagree. Both maps are already huge, and a lot of people's computers can barely handle one of them at a time. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:34, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2015

change

{ lat = "34.889", long = "43.860", mark = "Icon NuclearPowerPlant-black.svg", marksize = "7", label = "Ajil oil field", link = "Ajil oil field", label_size = "0" },

to

{ lat = "34.889", long = "43.860", mark = "Icon NuclearPowerPlant-red.svg", marksize = "7", label = "Ajil oil field", link = "Ajil oil field", label_size = "0" },

source: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g2W85i-JG08/VVE0MacoCYI/AAAAAAAADKo/p8kN-OVYcMM/s1600/Iraq%2BSITREP%2B2015-5-11%2B-%2Bprint.png%2Bhigh.png

Change Ajil Oil Field to Iraqi control. 2601:C7:8380:3B01:C147:1686:F337:CAAD (talk) 23:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

ISW just regurgitates what ISF and Kurds tell them which is always unverifiable. They have no one on the ground. IS however has posted video and photos showing them controlling the fields. Whoever made the change must have found enough corroborating evidence for it. Tgoll774 (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

H1, H2, H3

These Airbases were destroyed in 2003 and no longer used with the runways rotting away. They should be removed from the map.Tgoll774 (talk) 00:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

But these Air Bases (H2,H3) not be totally destroyed in 2003! Also in Anbar province later was built new the Air Base(H1)here Hanibal911 (talk) 20:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay then the Wikipedia Article needs to be updated to indicate they were rebuilt after US pullout. Tgoll774 (talk) 14:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

We must find out if the Iraq government has a supply line to Walid and Trebil. This Lebanese news agency says Trebil is 'surrounded by ISIS positions'.

Not sure about Trebil but the Al-tanf side of the Al-walid crossing is now marked as ISIS controlled.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Article.aspx?id=296448&link=Business/Regional/2015/May-01/296448-jordans-overland-trade-hit-by-iraq-syria-border-woes.ashx 2601:C7:8380:3B01:388A:8E8C:FECF:E294 (talk) 20:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

When did ISF launch an Anbar Offensive?

I see a whole bunch of cities from Abu Ghraib to Fallujah in East Anbar that went from Black or Contested to red without any source for it. That is a big chang and I see no corroborating evidence for it or news mentioning it.Tgoll774 (talk) 04:07, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Hanibal already provided those two sources for those edits on the 10th of May. Check edit history for the said date. Regards.--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 04:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I can't find them can you link me up? 109.110.113.134 (talk) 20:33, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Here's one and here. --Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 20:59, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Baiji Area

IS claims control of Al Fathah http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.061969&lon=43.550234&z=14&m=b and https://twitter.com/mediaactivsy228/status/598348359938797568

If true, it shows IS is starting its Summer offensive. However, I don't think we'll see the dramatic advance like last summer. ISF's morale despite causalities isn't breaking. Probably be like Syria with stalemates and minor advances for both sides. IS is launching major attacks in Syria as well to take advantage of SyAA's morale crash. Well I'll leave it to the usual editors to corroborate. But I think all the real action this summer will be in Syria. IS has to clear the Euphrates of SyAA if it wants to secure Anbar.Tgoll774 (talk) 14:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN0NY0TS20150513?irpc=932 Confirms Baiji City is under IS control. Tgoll774 (talk) 00:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/strategy-to-defeat-islamic-state-is-working-us-department-of-defense-claims.php Further proof IS controls Baiji and the surroundings. LWJ has accurate info. Baiji should turn black. Tgoll774 (talk) 01:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Ramadi

http://s6.uplod.ir/i/00599/nqz8wdbo7ywv.jpg Pro-Shia source. Tgoll774 (talk) 12:07, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Isil 'seizes Iraqi city of Ramadi'

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/world/middleeast/isis-fighters-seize-government-headquarters-in-ramadi-iraq.html?smid=tw-share

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11608236/Isil-seizes-Iraqi-city-of-Ramadi-as-black-flag-appears-on-government-buildings.html

https://twitter.com/RudawEnglish/status/599198650531647488

now waiting for hanibal to say telegraph and rudaw isnt reliable {Jack6780 (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)}

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/05/15/266798/islamic-state-takes-ramadi-government.html More confirmation. ISF has collapsed Tgoll774 (talk) 15:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/islamic-state-seizes-government-center-in-ramadi.php#comment-72976 Evidence is overwhelming now. Tgoll774 (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

And more confirmation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/isis-gains-control-of-major-iraqi-city/2015/05/15/68a8036c-fb0c-11e4-a47c-e56f4db884ed_story.html?tid=sm_tw

{Jack6780 (talk) 16:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)}

http://i.imgur.com/g8Nqgyd.jpg This makes only 3% of the city contested. Its a mop up operation now. Change it black. Tgoll774 (talk) 13:03, 17 May 2015 (UTC) http://s6.uplod.ir/i/00599/kwr1cjxjlk2i.jpg Pro Shia, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFEd1Y2WYAAvvI8.png Pro IS. Both pretty much agree. I say make Ramadi Black but put a partial red circle west on it because of Eighth Brigade and the small number of holdouts in the western side. Tgoll774 (talk) 19:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Tgoll774 Pro ISIS source here showed that the some parts a city of Ramadi still not taken ISIS. Al Mala´abAnbar Operations CommandJustice Palace and base of 8th Brigade These objects are also a part of the city and they still not taken. But we can mark Ramadi in black color and put some red dots inside that would display areas which still control Iraqi troops. So what you think about my offer? Hanibal911 (talk) 09:10, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Eighth Brigade is already part of the map and so is Anbar Operations Command, keep those red. But the small holdouts as like Tikrit are not good basis for keeping city contested since over 90% of the city is now securely in IS hands Tgoll774 (talk) 13:16, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Fuel depot in the south west to the city Ramadi should also be black according to all the above maps {Jack6780 (talk) 15:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)}

http://i.imgur.com/g8Nqgyd.jpg Less than 5% of main city under ISF control. Should go black. Tgoll774 (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Tgoll774 This pro ISIS sourcehere but relaible source reported that the Iraqi troops counterattacked and regained control of Al-Mukhabarat neighbourhood inside the city of Ramadi.Elijah J. Magnier Hanibal911 (talk) 13:27, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Elijah Magnier isnt a reliable source He is anti ISIS and there are so many instances he was proven wrong Yes he can use for ISIS advances but not for ISF advances {Jack6780 (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2015 (UTC)}

The 8th Army base west of Ramadi is in ISF hands, it's one of the most important bases in the province. Showing it in black is a big mistake in the map.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/islamic-state-overruns-anbar-operations-command-takes-full-control-of-ramadi.php Tgoll774 (talk) 23:21, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Rudaw is claiming the "entire city" is now in IS hands. According to the province spokesman, "The city was completely taken."'[1] Magog the Ogre (t • c) 02:38, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2015

change

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to

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and

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to

{ lat = "33.477", long = "43.660", mark = "Abm-black-icon.png", marksize = "7", label = "Saqlawiya Camp", link = "Saqlawiya Camp", label_size = "0", position = "top", },

source: http://s6.uplod.ir/i/00601/qkz7ldfbk7b5.jpg

2601:C7:8380:3B01:DDF6:793A:54B8:669F (talk) 18:08, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

ISF Defenses Collapse in Habbaniyah

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/islamic-state-breaks-iraqi-defensive-line-outside-of-habbaniyah.php LWJ. Tgoll774 (talk) 02:08, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/22/middleeast/isis-syria/ Its getting desperate. Tgoll774 (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Fight has been started near Haditha

Yesterday, the Islamic State attacked al-Khasfa near Haditha and they took control of Haditha asphalt factory. The Islamic State and Republic of Iraq is still fighting in there. #--햄방이 (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Baiji under IS Control

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/23/iran-sends-troops-retake-iraqi-oil-refinery-isis For weeks I have posted substantial evidence this city was under IS control and has been for months. ISF got ran out of town an the fighting is concentrated at the refinery. Tgoll774 (talk) 17:34, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I think so too. The Islamic State is wholly controlling Baiji city while there are still battles ongoing in the oil refinery near Baiji. --햄방이 (talk) 17:44, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Siniya is under the Islamic State controll too. # "We have to retake Siniya and Baiji towns to cut all supply routes coming from Anbar province and used by Daesh to send reinforcements whenever they need,” said a source in the Salahuddin Operations Command. Daesh is another name for Islamic State. --햄방이 (talk) 18:14, 23 May 2015 (UTC)