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Nationality

Surely, nationality is about which passport someone has. Rwandan-Scottish may be perceived as an ethnicity, but not a nationality. British is the correct nationality. Francis Hannaway (talk) 13:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rwandan-Scottish for the lede, and United Kingdom for the infobox, this is the format used for British citizens who specify a home nations identity.Halbared (talk) 20:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1. He has Rwandan nationality. 2. If a Scotsman moved to Japan and took Japanese nationality, who would consider him to be Japanese? Rustygecko (talk) 20:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

The photo currently up is a screengrab from YouTube. I've asked BBC Doctor Who and his agent on Twitter whether they have a better one.[1] Marnanel (talk) 13:54, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good job taking initiative! CreecregofLife (talk) 21:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Initial year for Doctor Who appearance

I'm being VERY generous to CreecregofLife and bringing this to the talk page to resolve. What year should currently be listed in the filmography for Gatwa's first Doctor Who appearance? My answer: 2023. No source that I have seen confirms that he is appearing in the forthcoming 2022 episode - we can reasonably anticipate that he will, but that is not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. If there is a source confirming his appearance in a regeneration scene this year, then of course that can be provided and 2022 listed. Until that point, we can only follow what we know. U-Mos (talk) 02:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He found out in February. Filming wrapped in March. It's not synthetic to say his first appearance is in 2022. Nothing else would make sense for his reveal to be now if it wasn't the case. CreecregofLife (talk) 02:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly what synthetic is. You've brought two facts together to assume something they don't say. That's not what Wikipedia does. A compromise might be to source his expected appearance in 2022 in prose, which is fine to do, and put "Forthcoming" in the filmography box. U-Mos (talk) 02:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bringing two facts together is called a case. Do you have a source saying he takes over in 2023? That his first appearance is in 2023? Because “first adventure” is very specific wording that does not mean what the other two do CreecregofLife (talk) 03:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Response to third opinion request:

I don't see any sources given in this discussion for either year, so if neither can bring actual sources to the discussion, neither year should be listed in my opinion. Combining sources like done above does seem like WP:SYNTHESIS to me. Amadeus²² 🙋 🔔 15:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::That is exactly what [[WP:SYNTHESIS|synthetic]] is. You've brought two facts together to assume something they don't say. That's not what Wikipedia does. A compromise might be to source his <u>expected</u> appearance in 2022 in prose, which is fine to do, and put "Forthcoming" in the filmography box. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 02:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 :::Bringing two facts together is called a case. Do you have a source saying he takes over in 2023? That his first appearance is in 2023? Because “first adventure” is very specific wording that does not mean what the other two do [[User:CreecregofLife|CreecregofLife]] ([[User talk:CreecregofLife|talk]]) 03:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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