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I posted a non-template 3RR warning on that page with regard to Charles Higham (biographer), and note you had been involved with that editor in the recent past. Collect (talk) 12:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'll let another admin sort that out—I don't have enough time to take an in-depth look into the situation right now. Is Engleham being incredibly uncivil again too? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:29, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

"Persistent" in his insistence on edits which he never got a consensus for in the past. Sigh. Collect (talk) 01:00, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Maybe AN? Sorry I can't help more. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:17, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

The (fitb) is accusing me of heinous crimes against Wikipedia in many places and edit warring to boot [1] [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13] sticking to the last two days. Another dozen or more in the prior single day. You warned him in the past - if you do not view this as a violation of what you said he should not do, I will be damned if I bring this to AN/I. In fact, I suggest that his affronts, including his charge that I am anti-gay, have Alzheimers, and am an affront to human existence at all represent substantial evidence that he is not here to build a neutral encyclopedia at all.

your very own endlessly tedious soapbox lecturings on bias. (But as everyone who has ever crossed you knows all too well, such injunctions don't apply to you -- especially if you think you can get a rise out of the other party, puerile unhelpful rubbish that some other editor will eventually delete anyway - and not just your nemesis User:Dr. Blofeld., Your predicable baiting bullshit can rot by itself, Rosenfield's biography of Hepburn never appeared. Why? Because he suicided the same month as he wrote the review slagging Higham, What?! You left out the part about the Gay Illuminati Conspiracy., I've removed all the shrill adolescent bolding. Bad form, but it was making the RfC impossible to read, not just your own rants - sorry, opinion, How about: instead of misrepresenting due process as edit warring, you might review some of your own contributions in that regard, beginning here: Talk:Harold_Holt As someone in our office laughingly commented recently while scrolling through a certain history: "There's nothing wrong with being an old steamer. But they need to read what they write!" , the bolding is merely to demonstrate that I too can do it, like the hysterics who object to any mention of Cooper having a homosexual best friend.) and on and on and on. Carthago delenda est. Collect (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Collect, sorry that I missed this—I've been offline. I would really advise you to go to AN, as I'm not going to have the time to delve into this situation. Best, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:03, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Dramaboards are a pain for a person who has at least eight people tracking my every edit (including IPs who mysteriously appear seeking my exit from Wikipedia). As a result, I have sworn off them in the belief that someone actually will give a damn (GWTW reference). The number of POV pushers with "strong alliances" (minced oath under my breath) is vast, and the number of people who actually think policies should be followed is far too small. Collect (talk) 12:18, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I do empathize with that—I've had one person doing something similar recently. But again, I really just don't have the time to examine this. I'm sorry. Another admin? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

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hi, was looking at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Next_issue/Obituary you might be interested in adding:

• proposal for a barnstar in his name[14]discussedUser talk:Kevin Gorman#How about a barnstar?

• contribute to organ donation article which has begunWikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Organ donation

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Thanks for this, I've added the article contributing plans. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:29, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

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I like your obituary for Kevin. I wrote A Requiem in Our Time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks, Gerda. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

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John Calvin was not French, IP rant

Since you were somewhat involved with this "person" back in November 2015,[15] I thought I should notify you of that particular "person's" return.

I do not believe that we need this kind of racist garbage on Wikipedia.

• Nevertheless, the world whatever it's colour or creed is waking-up to the murderous role of Jewish-supremacism down through the centuries. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:37, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: looks like an IP has removed the comment, rightfully in my opinion (despite the reverts). Will try to keep an eye on it, but I won't be on much in the next 24. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:10, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok. --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:15, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Story that might be of interest

I imagine that you probably have known about this for ages, but in case not... It looks like an interesting project. Nick-D (talk) 03:02, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

I am and already passed it onto my classmates. :-) A professor here works at the Coastal Studies Institute, and I believe several students have as well (although I'm not sure if they're involved with this). Thanks for sending it to me! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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Please see the large instructions at the toon of the page"If you wish to submit evidence, please do so in a new section (or in your own section, if you have already have one). Do not edit anyone else's section." (emphasis present in the original) – Gavin (talk) 06:12, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm really not worried about wikilawyering bullet point two. I believe that Andrew will agree that it's a beneficial change, but if not, it'll take him about .5 seconds to remove. Apologies for editing your section, though. That was daft. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 06:19, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

It's nowt to do with wikilawyering: it has never been acceptable to add one's thoughts to other people's TP comments, and doubly so at ArbCom. As well as the quoted wording above, the instructions also reiterate that"You must submit evidence in your own section. Editors who change other users' evidence may be sanctioned." If Andrew wants to subsequently add the comment, that is entirely up to him, but you cannot and must not change his statement. - Gavin (talk) 09:13, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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Engleham

Just a quick head's up, I have just blocked this user for a month. You placed a similar block a few months back, suggesting the next one should be indefinite. I have stopped short of that for now, as I am cautiously optimistic that a month off will allow everybody else to get back to work, but have emphasised future blocks may well be indefinite. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:10, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: That seems ... rather short, given my previous month-long block not even four months ago (where's the escalation?) and other blocks in the past (as I said at the time: "Engleham's block log has three blocks for personal attacks, one for violating BLP, two for both at the same time, and one for socking to boot (another was overturned). Then this one today. Have we given [Engleham] too much rope?"). There was also a developing consensus on ANI in favor of a community ban. Perhaps you closed the discussion a bit early? Best, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 16:49, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Here's my take on it. Engleham is a productive editor with a barbed sense of humour that gets him into trouble when other people don't share it. (cf: The Troggs Tapes). The ANI thread was trending in only one direction towards a full ban or indefinite block, and the conversation was approaching (but had not quite reached) a bloodbath - at which point I felt another admin would have placed such a sanction. Nipping it in the bud this way stops the immediate disruption and gets editors back to whatever they were doing, and it also provides Engleham with a route back into editing Wikipedia. The project doesn't have a good way of dealing with editors who make a lot of good mainspace edits but also cause disruption, so we just have to pick whatever is the least worst option at any time. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:02, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

There's two problems with that approach. One, you're cutting the community out of the process. One could make a stronger argument here, but I don't want to unjustly ascribe motives to you; it suffices to say that we operate this site based on consensus, and you've deliberately circumvented that.

Two, while you're very right to say that "The project doesn't have a good way of dealing with editors who make a lot of good mainspace edits but also cause disruption," you've unfortunately chosen to invoke the Malleus defense in response. In my personal opinion, that's an argument that should be immediately disqualified whenever it invariably pops up. No editor with an extensively invective and uncivil editing history should be allowed to continue using language that actively drives away other editors. It simply does not matter how positive their mainspace and content contributions are. Those are easy to count; the amount of edits lost from people who leave the site or decide to edit less aren't. That's one reason why there's no special provision for "but they've made so many other good edits" in WP:CIVIL. (Would you say that you wouldn't have blocked an editor making similar comments if they had only made a thousand edits?)

And just in case it isn't clear, all comments here are said in good faith and cheer. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:55, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

I personally think things are more complicated than that. I can certainly imagine somebody kicking off if I closed the ANI thread as "no action". Cary Grant's article has been put through the wringer more than a few times, and a month's block helps get some stability on it. Beyond that, I think Engleham admitted himself he gets on better writing obscure topics and things only go pear-shaped when he works on things of interest to multiple editors. He also admits to liking Bill Hicks, which means I don't think he is deliberately and purposely setting out to offend. He might exhaust Collect's patience, but I can't see him quitting Wikipedia over it. Anyway, bottom line is Engleham is blocked, and if we're having a near identical discussion on ANI in late October, feel free to serve seafood. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:44, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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Your opinion on declaring WP:INVOLVED

The ed17, what would be the best way to have an administrator declared as WP:INVOLVED when it comes to administrative actions concerning me? In the case I am speaking of, I have had a tempestuous history with the administrator for sometime and have made it clear more than once that I do not think that this administrator should act in an administrative capacity regarding me. Despite this, the administrator continues to do so. And, yes, I have examples of our tempestuous history. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

She means me.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:39, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I do. I love how you comment now, but ignore me for most of the day. WP:INVOLVED clearly states, "Involvement is generally construed very broadly by the community, to include current or past conflicts with an editor (or editors), and disputes on topics, regardless of the nature, age, or outcome of the dispute." That fits us to a T. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:43, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

I've been "ignoring" you because anything that I am permitted to tell you at this point would only inflame matters. If I thought I could say something that would help you calm down, I would. INVOLVED has to do with content, not with my actions as an administrator. I should also say that although you're angry with me at the moment, there have been other times when you were quite pleased with my decisions. Don't ask me for diffs; I don't keep a catalog of such events, good or bad. I'm a functionary. I have certain very clear responsibilities. One is not to breach the privacy policy, and of course I won't do that to satisfy your or anyone else's needs. You should learn to trust me more. You don't have to like me or agree with me, but at least trust me. I actually trust you. I think you're bright, often incisive, and honest. You do get a little carried away at times, but that's part of your temperament and isn't going to change. Even that has its appealing aspects. Right at the moment it's a bit annoying. :-) Take care.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:51, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Bbb23, it would have been helpful for you to identify the drive-by socks (even in the block log), but you did not. How are you not permitted to reveal who was operating those accounts? Those accounts are not IPs. Checkusers have openly revealed such information to me before. Identifying drive-by socks on a matter such as this is important, especially considering that Tisane does drive-by socking to my talk page. This case was important for a number of reasons, including as far as perception by outsiders go. You stated that "INVOLVED has to do with content, not with my actions as an administrator." That is not necessarily true. As this case shows, a number of editors felt that administrator was WP:INVOLVED because of the way he had interacted with me in the past. None of those interactions were a matter of him disagreeing with me over article content. The way that an administrator acts with an editor matters. I've been clear that some of my interactions with you leave much to be desired, so much so that I am not comfortable with you making administrative decisions regarding me. You even questioned whether or not you are involved. I am not angry with you; I am annoyed that you did not seem to give my concerns about that editor being a sock much credence and that you took the matter into your own hands and closed the case. Your close gives the impression that I am wrong, but there is a chance that I am not wrong. You didn't even sound entirely convinced that the editor is who he says he is. I feel that you should trust me more; you feel that I should trust you more. We are at an impasse. I will try to be more open-minded about you in the future, but it is not easy. I can control my temperament fairly well, actually, but I choose not to for a number of cases; this was especially true for the past three years where I needed to be stern and cold with problematic editors. I would clearly think: "Should I come across as a hothead? Or should I be very polite?" You know what I chose in some of those cases. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

All that stated, thank you for the above reply, Bbb23. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Poor Ed, look what we're doing to his Talk page. He's probably happy he doesn't have to say anything. :-) Some things I'm not permitted to tell you; other things I'm uncomfortable telling anyone. The drive-by. If that account had been brought to SPI along with evidence, I would have made a public finding, but it didn't. What I found was ambivalent. I was satisfied the account should be blocked, but I couldn't conclusively name the master, which in this instance is why I didn't tag the account (other times I don't tag for other reasons - other CUs often do the same thing, btw). My belief is the drive-by was possibly Tisane, but there were anomalies in the technical data. Hope that helps a bit. I also blocked the one that posted to your Talk page. There's a better possibility that the second editor (potato chips or whatever the hell the username was) is related to the first. Take that for what it's worth. As for the crux of the matter, I am convinced that they are who they say they are. Sorry if I gave a different impression. Anyway, I'm glad that we're having this conversation. It's probably my fault for hoping it would go away.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:27, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the socks were likely Tisane, but this sock signed his post the way that Tisane usually does, and this sock signed his post like Markshale signs posts (with the two dashes in the front), which could be argued as a deflection on Tisane's part. For example, if Markshale is not Tisane (which I'm not convinced is the case), the two dashes with that post could have been Tisane's way of trying to make it appear that he is Markshale and that he has prevailed. The entire post was a victory dance; so is this latest link that Tisane posted to boywiki. Yes, that editor is Tisane. The boychat response is very much similar to what he emailed me before, except this time the text is explicit about a pro-child sexual abuse stance. Someone suggested that I contact Fluffernutter and/or GorillaWarfare about the boywiki content because they might be able to do something about it per WP:Oversight and/or track its editors in a way that will link them here. But boywiki is not part of Wikipedia, and I've gotten used to my "notoriety" among child sexual abusers and pedophiles, who watched this latest sockpuppet case of mine like they were watching an illegal download. I've gotten used to their disturbing posts and the way they try to undermine me here at Wikipedia. So they can mock me without me batting an eye. I did not even know about the "Super secret special admirer" matter seen at boywiki until a few days ago. I check in on the site occasionally, but have done so more recently the past few days since I knew that the latest posts there were connected to this sock case.

The main issue for me with your close is that I think you rely too heavily on CU data, which I suppose is to be expected since you are a CheckUser. Over the years, I conversed with CheckUsers who made it clear that the tool is not pixie dust and can be circumvented in a number of ways. Furthermore, CheckUsers do not always come to the same conclusion, as I demonstrated on your talk page (with the initial link above). If we look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jdogno5/Archive, what I now cite as a cautionary tale about over-reliance on the CheckUser data, we see that one CheckUser stated "Possible" and the other stated "Unrelated technically." They were wrong not to block the account. Had I not taken matters into my own hands and listed behavioral evidence, the editor who started that sockpuppet case (Betty Logan) would still be considered incorrect, despite the fact that common sense should tell a person viewing the initial case that she was right all along. Yes, I don't understand how the CheckUser tool works, but I don't think that I need to. Your close has not only given the impression that Markshale is innocent, but that the Tisane editing pattern I noted cannot be relied upon, or at least not consistently relied upon, despite the fact that it has worked without fail to identify Tisane in the past. It still remains that those edit summaries are not automated and that it's unlikely that someone other than Tisane would consistently edit like that. I cannot get past the behavioral evidence; you cannot get past the CU data and wanted me to simply stop discussing the matter because you believe you are right. So, yeah, we're at an impasse. I wish that you and/or Ivanvector would bring in second and third CheckUser opinions on this matter, for all the reasons I've stated. I pinged others in the SPI, but there were no takers. Maybe Fluffernutter and GorillaWarfare would be open to looking this case over? Maybe you wouldn't mind sharing what you know with them? You seem to mean well, but I can't get over the unease I feel about this case. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Commenting, since I've been pinged. Child protection concerns should follow the advice at Wikipedia:Child protection. If what you're looking for here is some input on a checkuser case, I'm probably not the one to ask—though I hold the checkuser right, it's by dint of being an arbitrator and not because I possess any notable skill in identifying socks. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting, GorillaWarfare. I'm aware of the WP:Child protection policy, but I don't see any child protection action to take in this case. It doesn't seem like Wikipedia or the WP:WMF could do anything about the other wiki. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:59, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

If there are any child protection concerns, I would send them to the WMF so that they can be the ones to decide if there is action to take. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:04, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

So. Alright, then. First, on where we started here. Bbb, usually if you have to ask if you're involved, you're involved. ;-) But really, I see the points you're raising in that post and don't want to take a side. I would leave it to others to take action regarding Flyer (if any needs to be taken); it'll be less drama for everyone.

Second, I can't really comment on everything else, not being a functionary or familiar with the case. I do agree with GW that it's better to pass on everything to the WMF so they have all of the evidence when deciding whether to take action. (obligatory disclaimer: while I work with the WMF, this comment is made only in a volunteer capacity, and I have no role—formal or otherwise—with the Support and Safety team). Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:45, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Ed, that comment on Drmies's Talk page, a forum where all sorts of things are said with varying degrees of seriousness, was more me musing about INVOLVED qua policy than my questioning whether I was involved. Flyer22 can cling to the idea that I can't act at SPI when she is a "party" but it won't fly (da-da-da-boom).--Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

@Bbb23: I don't see why (absent a good reason) you'd continue to act in an administrator capacity with a long-standing editor who has explicitly requested you not to? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 16:56, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Do you know how many times users tell me I can't be impartial because of my past administrative actions against them? As for Flyer22, I barely have anything to do with her except at SPI. There are other users, not just Flyer22, who think I can't act at SPI because I've disagreed with them on past cases. SPI has a limited team and an even more limited number of CUs who patrol SPI. Any user, Flyer22 included, can approach another CU and ask if they'll intervene. I believe she did so in this instance (Alison). For the most part, CUs won't do that. Usually, another CU gets involved only if a CU asks for a second opinion. Anyway, I'm tired of talking about this. It's one thing to defend myself in something questionable, but this isn't one of those kinds of cases. You can feel free to disagree with me; that's your prerogative, but circular discussions, which are all too common at Wikipedia, are not the way I want to spend the too much time I already spend here. End of pout.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:33, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

"Thanks, Ed. It's clear Bbb23 believes that the notion that he can't act at SPI when I am a 'party' is something that 'won't fly,' while I believe that he is underestimating not only the evidence I have indicating that he, in fact, probably should not be acting in an administrative capacity regarding me, but also my ability to make a strong case against someone. After all, if he had not swooped in and saved Markshale, Markshale would be indefinitely blocked right now. The behavioral evidence was obviously strong, which is why he warned other administrators not to block Markshale regardless of how compelling they found the evidence. That said, after looking at Markshale's master account (no, Bbb23 didn't reveal it to me; nor did any other CheckUser), I believe that Bbb23 acted correctly in this case. I had neglected that there is one editor who edits like Tisane (the patterns, not just one or two patterns), despite the fact that I've interacted with this editor a number of times over the years. I didn't interact with him enough to memorize his editing style, obviously. I'm not sure why Markshale made it seem like we've interacted occasionally or that he might have interacted with me. There is no 'might have.' I will apologize on his user talk page. I will not reveal his main account, but it was easy to locate once looking for the Tisane pattern.

I will always feel that Bbb23 relies too heavily on the CheckUser tool. He does not give enough weight to behavioral evidence, which is clear by his initial response in the aforementioned case, when I noted that I wanted the case looked into further. He was ready for the case to close from the beginning, despite the fact that an 'unrelated' result does not necessarily equate to 'innocent'...as I've already shown above with a prime example of CheckUsers disregarding sound behavioral evidence in favor of CheckUser data (which got the matter wrong). The CheckUser tool is obviously flawed. 'Another CU get[ting] involved only if a CU asks for a second opinion'" is a crap way to go, given the examples I pointed to.

Let's face it: Some CUs simply don't like what they consider to be sockhunters or rogue sockcatchers. They want the sockcases to go through official 'trials,' and view those who don't always use the official process as disruptive and/or believe that they see themselves as being on an administrative level. To them, we are like bountyhunters working outside the law, and we must be reigned in, taught a lesson, despite the fact that we've repeatedly uncovered the worst of socks and some pretty vile socks at that. Sorry, but the only lesson I've learned from my years of catching socks is that behavioral evidence is usually everything and 'coincidences' are to be taken with a grain of salt. In most cases (and I've noted this before on my user page), I didn't really look for socks; it's usually rather that they stupidly continued to circle my orbit, daring me, as if I wouldn't recognize them. In some cases, I ignore them. I am ignoring Cali11298 these days, for example. And, for the most part, I ignore Cebr1979, who couldn't hide his writing style if his life depended on it, including his tendency to sign his username right up against his posts (meaning with no space in between). But it doesn't mean that I don't know who they are. I never thought that this IP was Markshale. I know who that IP is, and I was clear about that. I have a few persistent stalkers and I recognize them fairly easily, especially the ones with less-than-typical signature styles.

In any case, I am currently not focused on these type of things. Thanks for hearing me out." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:06, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2016 November newsletter: Final results

The final round of the 2016 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2016 WikiCup top three finalists:

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• Featured List – Calvin999 (submissions) produced 2 FLs in R2
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Rosie's age

Are you going to worm and squirm some more just to keep Rosie's age out of her BLP? Please do not do that. If you can find a a more terse and elegant way to convey the same info, then feel free. Otherwise, hands off or I might ask a friend to find her exact DOB from WP:RS and maybe rather a bit more. Do not tempt me do that sir. Please. Thank you.--208.54.32.178 (talk) 02:46, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

The reliable source provided before did not list her date/year of birth. What does "worm and squirm" mean? Why are you issuing threats? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:12, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins

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ARBCOM nomination deadline

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers

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DYK for Revolt of the Lash

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Pennsylvania-class battleship for TFA

• Hi Ed. This is just a friendly note to let you know that the Pennsylvania-class battleship article has been scheduled as today's featured article for December 7, 2016. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 7, 2016. Thanks!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Crisco 1492. Looking forward to it. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:13, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you for your nomination. It was a nice surprise on the evening when Santa Claus places gifts into our shoes here in Hungary. :) Borsoka (talk) 18:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@Borsoka: You very much deserve it. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:25, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at America's nuclear capability at the start of the Cold War Review essay: Hawkeye7 on the Manhatten Project suite of articles Op-ed: TomStar81 discusses leadership changes in World War I Timeline: This month in World War I

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2016 News

Guild of Copy Editors December 2016 News Hello everyone, and welcome to the December 2016 GOCE newsletter. We had an October newsletter all set to go, but it looks like we never pushed the button to deliver it, so this one contains a few months of updates. We have been busy and successful! >>> Sign up for the December Blitz! <<< Coordinator elections for the first half of 2017: Nominations are open for election of Coordinators for the first half of 2017. Please visit the election page to nominate yourself or another editor, and then return after December 15 to vote. Thanks for participating! September Drive: The September drive was fruitful. We set out to remove July through October 2015 from our backlog (an ambitious 269 articles), and by the end of the month, we had cut that pile of oldest articles to just 83. We reduced our overall backlog by 97 articles, even with new copyedit tags being added to articles every day. We also handled 75% of the remaining Requests from August 2016. Overall, 19 editors recorded copy edits to 233 articles (over 378,000 words). October Blitz: this one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 16 through 22 October; the theme was Requests, since the backlog was getting a bit long. Of the 16 editors who signed up, 10 editors completed 29 requests. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all editors who took part. November Drive: The November drive was a record-breaker! We set out to remove September through December 2015 from our backlog (239 articles), and by the end of the month, we had cut that pile of old articles to just 66, eliminating the two oldest months! We reduced our overall backlog by 523 articles, to a new record low of 1,414 articles, even with new tags being added to articles every day, which means we removed copy-editing tags from over 800 articles. We also handled all of the remaining Requests from October 2016. Officially, 14 editors recorded copy edits to 200 articles (over 312,000 words), but over 600 articles, usually quick fixes and short articles, were not recorded on the drive page. Housekeeping note: we do not send a newsletter before every drive or blitz. To have a better chance of knowing when the next event will start, add the GOCE's message box to your Watchlist. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Corinne and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the December Blitz! <<<

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This Month in GLAM: November 2016

This Month in GLAM – Volume VI, Issue XI, November 2016 Headlines Belgium report: Wiki Loves Art Belgium; Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium & Luxembourg Brazil report: Opening the Mathematics box in a context of widespread innumeracy Côte d'Ivoire report: Outcomes from the Parliament's collaboration and more France report: GLAM in northern France Germany report: WikiLibrary Barcamp and Wikimedia-Salon Mexico report: 2nd edit-a-thon WikiUNAM; 2 other edit-a-thons Netherlands report: Temminck Groll Collection; WW2 underground newspaper project presented in Bonn; Stained glass in the picture Norway report: #faktajakt and Armenia contest Spain report: Edit-a-thons in museums Sweden report: Connected Open Heritage; Craft; Wikipedia training; Uppsala stadsarkiv; Brunnsmuseet; Debate; LSH Upload Ukraine report: Ukrainian Museums Issued Additional Awards for Wiki Loves Monuments 2016 USA report: Holiday season events with new partners Open Access report: Open access on the 2016 Community Wishlist; Over 1k new video uploads Wikidata report: Birthday Bonanza WMF GLAM report: Digitization, #1lib1ref, and Tech Updates Calendar: December's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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WikiCup December newsletter: WikiCup 2017

On 1 January 2017, WikiCup 2017 (the 10th Annual WikiCup) will begin. This year we are trying something a little different – monetary prizes.

For the WC2017 the prizes will be as follows (amounts are based in US$ and will be awarded in the form of an online Amazon gift certificate):

• First place – $200
• Second & Third place – $50 each
• Category prizes – $25 per category (which will be limited to FA, FL, FP, GA, and DYK for 2017). Winning a category prize does not require making it to the final round.

Note: Monetary prizes are a one-year experiment for 2017 and may or may not be continued in the future. In order to be eligible to receive any of the prizes above, the competing Wikipedia account must have a valid/active email address.

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The judges for the 2017 WikiCup are Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), and Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email).

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Nomination for MilHist newcommer

I'm very honoured by your nomination. Thank you Robert Brukner (talk) 03:12, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Best of luck! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Saturnalia!

		Happy Saturnalia
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 01:42, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Ealdgyth. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Eretria (Shannara)

Now that there's some notability, I've been working on an article for this character. I notice that you also created one a long time ago, so I thought I'd let you know that it's back. -- James26 (talk) 12:04, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Seems like a lifetime ago. Nice work! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@James26: Do note that there was once a Template:The Sword of Shannara that I can restore if you create several of these articles, assuming there's enough refs for them. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:59, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment! I'm only familiar with Elfstones, so I probably won't be creating articles for characters from Sword. -- James26 (talk) 19:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2016 Irkutsk mass methanol poisoning

On 21 December 2016, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2016 Irkutsk mass methanol poisoning, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:17, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

I am led to understand

That you are of the opinion that filmographies do not need to be sourced. As an academic concerned with rampant plagiarism at wikipedia, and the practical impossibility that tracing sources via wikilink places on student and other readers (as well as the explicit statements in WP:VER that wikilinks do not satisfy the requirement for sources)—all this makes incomprehensible an opinion that such blocks of non-"sky is blue" purported factual material need not be sourced. By any widely accepted standard (for instance this), this removes all film and other arts related articles with such lists as being anything other than IMDB-copied or -comparable untrustworthy sources of content (and so off of any reading lists we might offer). This is all the more the case, since the vast majority of high traffic articles are BLP-focused. Reply here with the argument to the contrary? Le Prof [Leprof_7272] 73.210.155.96 (talk) 08:02, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2016 San Pablito Market fireworks explosion

On 22 December 2016, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2016 San Pablito Market fireworks explosion, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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Holiday card

Wishing you a Charlie Russell Christmas, The ed17!

"Here's hoping that the worst end of your trail is behind you That Dad Time be your friend from here to the end And sickness nor sorrow don't find you." —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1926. Montanabw(talk) 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Montanabw. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

	Season's greetings!
	I hope this holiday season is festive and fulfilling and filled with love and kindness, and that 2017 will be successful and rewarding...Modernist (talk) 23:13, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks, Modernist. Same to you! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:06, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Revolt of the Lash

The article Revolt of the Lash you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Revolt of the Lash for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Nick-D -- Nick-D (talk) 06:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Nick! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:06, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

No worries, and sorry for the delays - your response coincided with a crazy busy period at work, and I must have been too zonked to have seen it when I got home. Nick-D (talk) 00:08, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

No problem at all—I had honestly forgotten about it too, and you may have never seen it because I messed up the ping. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:17, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

	Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all the best in 2017! Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:30, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Same to you, Ruhrfisch. Always happy to see your name pop up on my watchlist from time to time. :-) Hope life is treating you well! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:20, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Same to you, Bzuk! :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Alc. poisoning

Another apparent methanol poisoning – 32 dead. Sca (talk) 16:34, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Eek. 'Tis the season, apparently. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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South American dreadnought race - Translation in French

Hello The ed17,

No, the only people to thanks is you, because you have made most of the work. Unfortunatly, in the French article there are a lot of red links, that is why I can not propose it to a label at the moment. Anyway, I have discovered on your page two gold mines (first one and the second one which include articles about French battleships that we do not have). I am going to finish a translation about a broken dam in America and I think I will have a look to Argentine–Chilean naval arms race. I wish you a happy new year. Skiff (talk) 10:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Military Historian of the Year

		The Half Barnstar
		For your nomination of Sturmovogel 66 as a candidate for the 2016 Military Historian of the Year I present you with the Left Half of the Half Barnstar. All to often, it is easy for us to overlook deserving editors, contributors, and participants, so it is a welcome development to know that the contributions from others are still noticed and appreciated by our community. TomStar81 (Talk) 09:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, TomStar81. And happy new year! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:42, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy 2017!

Wishing good health and happiness as we start the new year! --Rosiestep (talk) 20:12, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Rosiestep. Same back to you. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:42, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

War of the Pacific arbitration case opened

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Proposed deletion of Big Picture with Kal Penn

The article Big Picture with Kal Penn has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not notable and unreferenced television program

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. -- Whats new?^(talk) 04:36, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Whats new?! So, I've been here for a long time. That means that I know the rules and can easily push back on this by pointing you to sources like a New York Times review or many others, all found with a quick Google search. However, new editors don't have that luxury, and your PROD here makes me wonder if you're nominating articles for deletion without basic checks. Such hasty deletion nominations have been shown to drive new editors away. Please try to not contribute to that. :-) Thanks, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 10:07, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your reply. I have seen you are an experienced editor, which is all the more confusing as to why you created the article without references, and haven't expanded it beyond two sentences. I'm glad you have found reliable sources, and hope you can continue contributing to the article beyond its current stub. In my quick search, I found brief mentions relating to airtimes and unsubstantial sources. I'm satisfied you have establised notability. -- Whats new?^(talk) 11:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

@Whats new?: thanks for engaging here. Certainly the article isn't ideal; I wrote it late on a Friday night while watching the show on TV and never came back to it. But the burden isn't on me—see WP:PRODNOM or its AfD equivalent, WP:BEFORE. All I ask is that you take slightly more time in conducting your search to ensure that you don't PROD notable articles created by new editors. Best (really!), Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:35, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 and Nick-D look at three recent works Op-ed: TomStar81 on a curious episode of World War I Timeline: This month in World War I

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This Month in GLAM: December 2016

This Month in GLAM – Volume VI, Issue XII, December 2016 Headlines Argentina report: Contest - New Glam Web - Edit-a-thon Australia and New Zealand report: Noongarpedia Brazil report: Preparing the future GLAM generation; Decreasing the gender gap on the web Côte d'Ivoire report: Heading for #1Lib1Ref 2017 Germany report: Exhibition photography; WikiLibrary Barcamp Italy report: Libraries of 1602 and 2016, science museum new home for wikimedians Netherlands report: Image donation Specilla circularia; Glass negatives by photographer Jan Goedeljee; Pattypan training for GLAMs; 1500 historical images from the Peace Palace Library Spain report: Pinazo Year Edit-a-thon Sweden report: Connected Open Heritage images UK report: Gender Equality, Visiting Scholars and Image uploads USA report: USA edit-a-thons Open Access report: Russian PhD Comics video; WMF grant to cover APC; Fluorescent fish Wikidata report: Last report for 2016 WMF GLAM report: Structured Data on Commons Funded! #1lib1ref and a holiday break Calendar: January's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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Books and Bytes - Issue 20

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 20, November-December 2016
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• Partner resource expansions
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Friendly reminder

As discussed previously, please don't transclude unprotected images on the main page. Following the instructions displayed at WP:CMP is a simple method of ensuring that this doesn't occur. Thank you. —David Levy 13:50, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Oriental Desert Express

Hello! Your submission of Oriental Desert Express at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Joseph2302 (talk) 14:04, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

You need to do a QPQ for this nomination. Apart from that, the article is fine. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:04, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Executive order

I did discuss on the talk page, where consensus was to use the title that is in the actual document, at least until an executive order number is available.Anythingyouwant (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

It now has an assigned EO number, since 11:15am EST. Federal Register published a publication notice, assigning 13769 to the EO in question. Public inspection document released today, with official EO publication scheduled for tomorrow, February 1. To stave off a potential flurry of name changes, I have taken liberty to insert a short summary of same in main article, updated List of United States federal executive orders 13765 and above with information available as published on FR website, and am contacting you -- the editor who effectively posted the 'please don't change' notice -- to make the if/when call on changing the title as appropriate. Cariboukid (talk) 18:07, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK TRM, FYI

I tried a couple of years ago too. As you see, it's hopeless. Some people can't be helped. EEng 22:23, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

See what I mean? EEng 23:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

@EEng: I can't fathom the transformation that's happened with him. If current trends hold, we'll be back at Arbcom at some point in the next few months. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:52, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

EEng, you're up next. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

See what I mean? The Rambling Man (talk) 23:49, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, you are not welcome on my talk page if you're just going to bait other editors. Furthermore, please don't respond to this message. Peace, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:52, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Is this becoming a too large of an article. Even with summaries?

Dear Ed17,  

  

     Do you think that the Wikipedia article Donald Trump, is becoming too big even with separate summaries, and other Main article pages that there already to decrease the size of the page? It is starting to get so interesting, that even with all the breaking into other articles, and making a summary of the articles in the sections, sub-sections, sub-sub-sections, on Donald Trump, and the page is still this big.  

  

     The point I am trying to make here is that, the immense size of that page is already big enough to affect the performance of web browsers on laptops and netbooks. I do not see this problem yet on desktops. Although the size this page is taking up on servers, is nearly reaching around, 350KB according to Donald Trump: Revision history, that is almost the size Administrators Notice Board is taking on servers. I think you know how long ANI is since you are an admin, as stated on your User Page. FYI, even Barack Obama's, George W. Bush's, Bill Clinton's, and Ronald Reagan's page, are all ether nearly or not at all the same size on the servers. The page sizes for those pages can be seen on their Article Revision History pages. However, this is the size of their Wikipedia Article, after their presidency.  

  

     However, I think the reason behind why web browsers are starting to almost freeze when loading the page, is because of the number pictures that are seen on the page. All I wanted or should I say, wanting to do, is to, inform you about this problem that I have noticed when that article page is loading. I understand and can see from the page history, that the info, on the page is trying to get reduced. However, I think that as time goes on more and more images will also, be added to that page. I think that a discussion page should be made, where people discuss whether there should be a limit on the number of pictures an article should have, based on its size. Another thing I thought about, was making an article about the summaries on Donald Trump's Wikipedia article, and making a summary of the summary. This would decrease the size of the page further.  

  

     I am just trying to state my concern over the size problems, of the Wikipedia Article, Donald Trump.   

  

Sincerely,   

Aceing_Winter_Snows_Harsh_Cold (talk) 02:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)   

At 13000 words its shorter than Ronald Reagan's 14700 words. However, for some reason the source text is WAY larger (320K vs. 225K). Not sure why, but for sure a chunk is due to the # and bulk of the refs. In any event, it's nowhere near excessively long. EEng 02:55, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

• Size matters. Drmies (talk) 02:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
  • DAMMIT! I was gonna make that joke but after gathering all those stats I forgot. EEng 03:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Heh, and here the pun is right. :-) Those on slower connections, ie most of the internet population, may click away because it takes too long to load. Certainly WP:Summary style should come in. But it'll require consensus on the article's talk page and someone willing to summarize the sections and split off some of the current content into second-tier articles. (I'm not as worried about the images, as there are not an obscene amount of them, but I'm not an expert on how much bandwidth it takes to render those at thumbnail sizes)
    • Also, EEng. You missed your chance. Deal with it. ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:03, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter - February 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
• Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
• Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

Technical news

• When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
• Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
• The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries

• JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

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DYK for Oriental Desert Express

On 3 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oriental Desert Express, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Oriental Desert Express is equipped with shovels to help clear sand off the railroad tracks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oriental Desert Express. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oriental Desert Express), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Schwede66 01:52, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017

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This Month in GLAM: January 2017

This Month in GLAM – Volume VII, Issue I, January 2017 Headlines Brazil report: GLAM news in January Côte d'Ivoire report: Editing during #1Lib1Ref, presenting at WikiIndaba 2017 Estonia report: Paintings and graphic art depicting Tartu from Tartu Art Museum's collection, photographers' biographic data Germany report: January: less action - more planning Italy report: WMI @ Uffizi Macedonia report: Winners of DARM Challenge 2 and Karpoš Municipality meeting Netherlands report: WiR in Gelderland; Royal Library supporting #1Lib1Ref; De nieuwe rijschool; Impact assessment image donation Norway report: Immigration of images and #faktajakt Spain report: Open Heritage: our first wikivisit Sweden report: Connected Open Heritage; GLAM and Open data; #1lib1ref UK report: Libraries, Museums, Hospitals and Antiquities Ukraine report: Libraries Help Break Record for Ukrainian Wikipedia Birthday USA report: Wikipedia Day 2017 Open Access report: Over 700 new videos uploaded Wikidata report: Commons structured data takes a big step forwards WMF GLAM report: Ramping up structured Commons, #1lib1ref success, and other updates Calendar: February's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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ITN recognition?

Just wondering why I did not get an ITN recognition message on my talkpage for André Salvat?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:29, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: I've just done so, but do note Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions#Credits, which says "... which you can copy and paste (and fill out if you want to) to the user talk pages of the nominators and updaters. If not, somebody else will do it for you; these tasks don't require admin tools!" :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:07, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:09, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Email

Hello. I just replied to your recent email. Please confirm that you received the reply as I'm not sure about the generic email address which was used. Andrew D. (talk) 00:56, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson: Thanks, I've received it over on my staff email. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News Hello everyone, and welcome to the February 2017 GOCE newsletter. The Guild has been busy since the last time your coordinators sent out a newsletter! >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< December blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 December; the themes were Requests and eliminating the November 2015 backlog. Of the 14 editors who signed up, nine editors completed 29 articles. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all who took part. January drive: The January drive was a great success. We set out to remove December 2015 and January and February 2016 from our backlog (195 articles), and by 22 January we had cleared those and had to add a third month (March 2016). At the end of the month we had almost cleared out that last month as well, for a total of 180 old articles removed from the backlog! We reduced our overall backlog by 337 articles, to a low of 1,465 articles, our second-lowest month-end total ever. We also handled all of the remaining requests from December 2016. Officially, 19 editors recorded 337 copy edits (over 679,000 words). February blitz: The one-week February blitz, focusing on the remaining March 2016 backlog and January 2017 requests, ran from 12 to 18 February. Seven editors reduced the total in those two backlog segments from 32 to 10 articles, leaving us in good shape going in to the March drive. Coordinator elections for the first half of 2017: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2017 were elected. Jonesey95 stepped aside as lead coordinator, remaining as coordinator and allowing Miniapolis to be the lead, and Tdslk and Corinne returned as coordinators. Thanks to all who participated! Speaking of coordinators, congratulations to Jonesey95 on their well-deserved induction into the Guild of Copy Editors Hall of Fame. The plaque reads: "For dedicated service as lead coordinator (2014, 1 July – 31 December 2015 and all of 2016) and coordinator (1 January – 30 June 2015 and 1 January – 30 June 2017); exceptional template-creation work (considerably streamlining project administration), and their emphasis on keeping the GOCE a drama-free zone." Housekeeping note: We do not send a newsletter before every drive or blitz. To have a better chance of knowing when the next event will start, add the GOCE's message box to your watchlist. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Corinne and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Q

Dear Ed, a little birdie tells me you know about military stuff. Can you have a look at User:Aporter90/James Sullivan (Medal of Honor) and tell me if you think this passes notability guidelines--GNG and MILHIST guidelines? Thanks so much! Semper ubi sub ubi, Dr Aaij (talk) 15:57, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

@Dr Aaij: Hey there! Sullivan is definitely notable per WP:MILPEOPLE. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:11, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Just did some copyediting and formatting. Could use some info on his early and later life, if there is any, and maybe even info on how the subterfuge was detected for Medal of Honor purposes. Was it much later or discovered at the time? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:21, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Ed. Don't write the article for her! Otherwise you two will have to split the grade. My other question is whether there's enough to write a full-fledged article, with a decent amount of content. DYK is one cut-off point, but that's easily reached; Ms. Porter is in a writing class and I need her to write. Dr Aaij (talk) 03:20, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

YAY!!!!! Ed, thank you kind sir for your help! There is not much on his earlier life nor on his later life except he tried to get his pension and was denied. I honestly believe from what I can gather that he was awarded it under the Sullivan name but just recently (2011ish) someone was like hey this MOH belongs to this guy. In 2016 he got the correct tombstone that recognizes him as a MOH recipient. --Aporter90 (talk) 03:38, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Dr Aaij, write?! What is that??? I do not know of this writing you speak of....just some minor small copyedits have been made to my orginal sand....but now I shall go and put more sand in my box!--Aporter90 (talk) 03:38, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Ed, you hear that? She called you sir! That beard of yours is working! :) (BTW, Aporter has tattoos, so don't piss her off.) Dr Aaij (talk) 03:44, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@Aporter90: There's a little more info on Google Books! [23] [24] Might be some on Hathi as well, but their search is ... less user-friendly. Also, you have everyone's support here if you'll give Dr Aaij a difficult time in class. ;-)

@Dr Aaij: Not a lot out there, but if multiple articles is acceptable, I'd say she's good! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:53, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@Dr Aaij and Godsy: Dun dun dun. It's almost like this is a collaboratively edited site and you can't stop us from editing... ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:59, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Ed, are you still smartassing around, pinging decent people long after your bedtime? Haha, yes--great copy edits, but that's the reason I had them work in sandboxes first. You can see I just made a subpage under my name with all the drafts from the class, with a very wide range of quality and promise. Porter is among the best of them. That YoungWizard draft has just enormous potential. Thanks again, Ed, and thanks Godsy; we may call on y'all again later when we get to the DYK stage. Dr Aaij (talk) 05:07, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@Dr Aaij: Sounds good! And a couple thoughts on the others—"Influence of unemplyment [sic] on crimes in France" is an awfully ambitious undertaking (but a fascinating one!), and LuckyBastardClub might warrant a couple sentences in 95th Air Base Wing, but I wouldn't think it's notable. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:21, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you to everyone!!!--Aporter90 (talk) 05:28, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Ed, could you please be so kind and take a look at my hopefully finished product. I'd greatly appreciate it! User:Aporter90/James Sullivan (Medal of Honor) Aporter90 (talk) 18:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

@Aporter90: how does that look now? :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 16:01, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Ed I appreciate that. I am working on another Civil War MOH guy maybe when I get done with that one you can take a gander at it...if you would like. Aporter90 (talk) 16:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

@Aporter90: Certainly! Leave me a message when it's ready and I'll take a look. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:54, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Ok I will do Ed! My James Sullivan (Medal of Honor) is in mainspace now!! :) Aporter90 (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

March Madness 2017

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

• tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
• updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
• creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

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March 2017 WikiCup newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:

• Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
• Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
• 1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
• Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

So, on to the second round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Aileen Hernandez

On 3 March 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Aileen Hernandez, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 21:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Texas Revolution

Thanks for your edit over there. I knew I didn't do it right, but didn't know how to fix it. My first attempt at that maneuver. Just an FYI, we have a pattern of this developing over there. I think it's been evolving since this achieved FA, same sentiment but not same words. Anyway, thanks for the help. — Maile (talk) 00:27, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Anytime! It's on my watchlist. :-) On the deleted revision, the text survived because there the Sinebot edit was still visible. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:28, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Just now my talk page, requests for reduction in protection. — Maile (talk) 00:55, 8 March 2017 (UTC) Also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/66.87.121.220. This does not look like it will be going away anytime soon. — Maile (talk) 01:21, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

@Maile66: That is genuinely frustrating. I'm sorry and hope the SPI comes up with something. Let me know if you need any admin actions to deal with them (I can't really help with the SPI, as I have no idea how the process works!). Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Design A-150 Battleship

I've overhauled the article, with an eye towards FAC (and the March Madness contest), but I'd like for you to take a look at it. I'm having a bit of a problem figuring out to cut some of the excess from the article. In particular the main gun part of the last para of the background section seems a bit redundant to the armament section. Another issue is that we need to source the bit about length and beam from the infobox and I don't have that volume of Garzke & Dulin, do you? See how it looks and feel free to make any changes you deem suitable. Once all this is done, and if you're OK with it, I'd like to run it through FAC with you as a co-nom.

I was looking through all the other OMT A-class articles and there are a couple more that we might be able to whip into shape without too much work. Hawaii, in particular comes to mind. Didn't you use to have contact with Scarpaci, back when you and Parsec originally worked on it? It would be very nice to get the relevant pages from him if at all possible since he's updated his book and given it a new title.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:34, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey Sturmvogel 66, I'll take a look asap. I do have that G&D volume, so I'm happy to help with info from that and any other articles that book covers. WRT Hawaii, you might have been thinking of Parsec and I's contact with Lars Ahlberg for Tosa? Scarpaci has a Facebook page where we might be able to get in touch with him if needed, but I wonder if his book is truly reliable... Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 06:00, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking that you and Parsec had both worked on Hawaii, but I'll contact him about upgrading that article since you're going all Mission Impossible about it ;-) I also wonder if we can truly consider him and it highly-reliable. Be easier to actually tell if I had a copy to hand. Maybe one of the local libraries has a copy?Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:49, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@Sturmvogel 66: Oh, right, sorry. Misunderstanding. I did write Hawaii, but Parsec and I were not in contact with Scarpaci—you might have been thinking of Lars ... etc etc

I think that's more clear now. Happy to help with getting the article to FA! :-) If I remember right, I used what I could see out of the Google preview for Scarpaci's book. I just no longer trust a publisher that's built on Pagekicker, which advertises "Build, buy, and sell instant ebooks." Also, no listing for it in Worldcat. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 21:22, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@Sturmvogel 66: I'm doing some source searching. My university library has U.S. Cruisers: An Illustrated Design History and Cruisers and Battle Cruisers: An Illustrated History of Their Impact, so I'll grab those the next time I'm on that side of campus. I also have access to "America's Forgotten Secret Weapons: The Alaska-Class Battle-Cruiser," which despite the absolutely ridiculous title was authored by Paul Silverstone. Would you happen to have a copy of US Heavy Cruisers 1943-75: Wartime and Post-war Classes? I'm skeptical that it'll have much, but it's at least mentioned in the book on pages 32 and 36 (according to the index). There's also a few newspaper articles to draw from. Last, I emailed you a copy of a Military Affairs article that deals with the Lexingtons.Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:50, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Cool beans. I like most everything that Silverstone's done, I wasn't even aware that he'd done a book on the Alaskas, so maybe there won't be too much pain if we delete Scarpaci. I've got Friedman and Osborne's books myself, although I do tend to forget about the latter.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

In fairness, it's just an article and on a closer look doesn't look like it'll be extremely helpful. Did you have US Heavy Cruisers? And when were you looking to get this done by? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Really no big hurry. Less than a week would be nice, but not essential. Yeah, I've got the Osprey Heavy Cruiser book, but it's got just a little bit on the Alaskas.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:50, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll start going through it this week. I have a wedding to attend on Saturday, so this weekend is going to be a little problematic. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 06:23, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

How dare you have a social life outside Wiki! So you want to do Hawaii first, then A-150?

Aileen Hernandez

I disagree but see your logic and am happy for it to be re-introduced/remain! GiantSnowman 09:13, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Cheers! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 09:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info

I wish I'd known about this before. DuncanHill (talk) 21:57, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: No prob, it's not something you could have known if you weren't following along with it! I genuinely hope that TRM comes back with a different approach to editing once the month is up. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I knew he had had, shall we say, "issues" before, and had searched for some kind of ruling, but hadn't come across that. I'm sure he and I have in the past tried to stand up for each other, so I look forward to that happening again. DuncanHill (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Dorothy Rice

On 7 March 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dorothy Rice, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Access date format for cite web

Greetings, Ed! In your recent edit of David Rubinger you made several changes to the format of the access-date parameter, rendering it as YYYY-MM-DD. As I'm located in a country with the standard usage DD/MM rather than the MM/DD as in the USA, I avoid ambiguity in ordinary texts written for a global readership by using DD-Month-YYYY. For usage in WP editing I've relied on Template:Cite web which uses DD Month YYYY (unhyphenated), and not the format you substituted in the a/m edit. As I'm the syntax coach (and ranking native speaker of English) in a local group of WP editors, I want to understand deviations from set standards I use and teach. So I'd appreciate your remarks on this matter. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 08:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey Deborahjay, it's purely a matter of convenience. I manually went through to standardize all of the dates before ITN per MOS:DATEUNIFY (sorry for the alphabet soup), and YYYY-MM-DD is a lot faster to type. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:58, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for filling me in, Ed, and the link to that section of the MOS. I'm presently struggling with incorporating LTR content into cite templates of an RTL language, so here I had a good opportunity to review standards on something much more basic. -- Deborahjay (talk) 07:58, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@Deborahjay: No prob! I expect YYYY-MM-DD is better for machine translation and is easier to translate, but those are just hunches. Best of luck. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 06:15, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: February 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 and Nick-D look at works on two facets of US military power Op-ed: TomStar81 on the Russian Revolution Timeline: This month in World War I

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A barnstar for you!

	Donuts from a grateful student/teacher combo
	Aporter90 brought you some unbelievably tasty donuts. Dude, wish you had been there--we ate them all. Thanks for all your help, Ed. Dr Aaij (talk) 03:12, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@Dr Aaij and Aporter90: Thank you for making me want donuts. Jerks. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:15, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for James Sullivan (Medal of Honor)

On 18 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article James Sullivan (Medal of Honor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Peter Van Hoesen, an American Civil War deserter, was paid $300 to enlist by a drafted man, and performed a Medal of Honor-worthy deed at Fort Fisher in 1864 for which he got no credit? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/James Sullivan (Medal of Honor). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, James Sullivan (Medal of Honor)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 21

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Intentions

What exactly are your intentions "best" for by making a comment like that at the RFA, and not in a personal email? Please expound, — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 11:35, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Actually, nevermind I don't care what your excuse is... You can shove that entire (sly) aspersion casting comment up your ass. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 11:46, 13 April 2017 (UTC)