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Mystery lifesaving apparatus

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Can anyone identify this lifesaving appartus (middle picture, bottom row) please? Mjroots (talk) 10:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reminiscent, a little, of this design of a Carley Float. A forerunner of an EPIRB (Emergency position-indicating radiobeacon). _ Broichmore (talk) 13:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

DANFS down?

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Is anybody else getting a 503 error on history.navy.mil? It seems to have gone down yesterday, and it's still not back up. Parsecboy (talk) 16:49, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nevermind, I ask about it and then it comes back on. Parsecboy (talk) 21:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
The site always has issues, so this is routine. GGOTCC (talk) 12:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Pontian boat

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The Pontian boat was a lashed-lug boat built in the 3rd to 5th century CE and discovered near the town of Pontian in southern Pahang, Malaysia by British archaeologist Ivor Evans in 1926. It is one of the earliest examples of boat-building in Southeast Asia.

It would be great if someone would create an article about it. Mathglot (talk) 07:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Are you aware of the Viet Khe boat as per Bellwood, Peter; Cameron, Judith; Van Viet, Nguyen; Van Liem, Bui (March 2007). "Ancient Boats, Boat Timbers, and Locked Mortise-and-Tenon Joints from Bronze/Iron-Age Northern Vietnam". International Journal of Nautical Archaeology. 36 (1): 2–20. doi:10.1111/j.1095-9270.2006.00128.x.? This is an expanded logboat with raised sides, using lashed lug construction and is dated 500 to 300 BCE. There are a growing number of archaeologically investigated boats in SE Asia, so any "earliest example" statements are always at risk of being or becoming wrong. The other expanded logboats in the same paper are also of interest, though not quite so old. ThoughtIdRetired TIR 15:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Suggested article splits from "Paddle steamer"

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The paddle steamer article is pretty random, in more ways than one. One obvious issue with it, however, is IMO that there is too much material tangential to the topic. The two sections of concern are "Modern paddle steamers", and "Bangladesh" in the "History" section. The "modern paddle steamers" section is basically just a list of extant paddle steamers that adds nothing to the reader's understanding of paddle steamers, and looks quite out of place and WP:UNDUE. I am therefore proposing that it be moved to a new article with a name something like "List of extant paddle steamers".

The "Bangladesh" subsection of the "History" section also adds nothing of value given that the contribution of Bangladesh to the history of development or use of the paddlewheel lies somewhere between negligible and nonexistent. I therefore propose that it be moved to a new article named "Paddle steamers of Bangladesh" or something similar.

Comments? Gatoclass (talk) 11:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sounds like a good plan. Llammakey (talk) 12:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Concur. Alansplodge (talk) 12:23, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agree. Kablammo (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Should I just go ahead and do it then? Gatoclass (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Wow, yeah, that's a bit of a rough article. I'd say to go for it and post again here if you get pushback. Ed [talk] [OMT] 16:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Okay guys, thanks for your input, I have created two new articles from split content, namely List of extant paddle steamers and Director-class tugboat. I know I didn't mention the latter, but in preparing the other splits I noticed these and since they were diesel tugs rather than steam vessels, they clearly didn't belong. As paddle tugs built in the late 1950s though, they are a quite novel type which would be fun to expand if anybody has more info on them.

With regard to the aforementioned Bangladesh split, I did not go ahead with that for the time being, because I'm considering relocating the content in some way to Bangladesh Inland Water Transport Corporation. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 09:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bangladesh content moved to Bangladesh Inland Water Transport Corporation per the above. Gatoclass (talk) 08:15, 29 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Issue with an illustration depicting trireme hull plank joints

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Mortise-tenon joints in trireme hull planking

This drawing of a portion of a trireme hull, showing the manner of joining hull planks together with mortise and tenon joints may have some issues. Currently under discussion, is how best to best describe exactly what the issues with the diagram are, as a prelude to raising this issue with the excellent folks over at the Graphics Lab, and giving them a clear textual description of what the illustration should depict or how it should be changed. A secondary issue exists regarding evolution of the plank joining method over time, and how to deal with that in an illustration. Your feedback at Talk:Ships of ancient Rome#Problem illustration would be appreciated. Mathglot (talk) 05:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good article reassessment for O'Brien-class destroyer

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O'Brien-class destroyer has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply