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Dave Bautista on Tambayan Philippines

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Hello people! I just want to ask if Dave Bautista known as Batista a former WWE superstar should be included on this WikiProject? Because Dave was a half filipino based on Inquirer.net. For me, it should included in our WikiProject. Royiswariii Talk! 04:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

If Bautista was heavily involved in some activity in the Philippines, sure, that would be fair game, but for now, not really. Blake Gripling (talk) 05:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello Blake Gripling!
You might check this post wayback 2015 on Official Facebook Page of Bautista, i think it's a movie on James Bond movie i think, it's caption Just told that I'm the first Filipino actor in a Bond film! Is that really true?? So, might be a contribute too? Royiswariii Talk! 05:38, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
For perspective, do we have common assessment standards on Filipino-Americans? Borgenland (talk) 12:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello Borgenland!
Well, Beabadoobee was on our WikiProject and she's Filipino-Birtish, Asa Miller and Jordan Clarkson was on our WikiProject and they are Filipino-American. Maybe Bautista can be added on our WikiProject too. Royiswariii Talk! 13:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also, Rob Bonta a politican on US, and he's Filipino-American too. Royiswariii Talk! 13:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please note that Dave Bautista was the first Filipino-American that entered on WWE, so it might be a consideration? Royiswariii Talk! 13:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gina F. Acosta

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There's an AFD about one of Sara Duterte's staffmembers (no, not the one cited for contempt and is now in hospital arrest). I have argued for a merge and redirect to an article about the current happenings, but it seems there's no such article about that. The last one was 2024 constitutional reform attempts in the Philippines, but that's for charter change, and not just solely about Sara Duterte's issues. There was discussion on what happens next after that, and it seems that this is it. The current article can be transformed into a discussion about the current congressional hearings, but what should be the title? 2024 Philippine congressional hearings on Sara Duterte? Howard the Duck (talk) 01:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

It sounds more like a full-blown political crisis beyond Batasan these days but I couldn’t think of a more sober title for now. Borgenland (talk) 01:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Mary Grace Piattos? Howard the Duck (talk) 01:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Or should it be something along the lines of the expenses scandal? Borgenland (talk) 05:22, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
If Sara Duterte is impeached, it would be a lot easier. The expenses scandal has been ongoing for a long time, and was rooted in the House not granting her request of more confidential funds for the 2025 budget. I realize we actually do not have an article about that, but should have. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
How about "Assassination plot against Bongbong Marcos, Liza Araneta Marcos and Martin Romualdez by Sara Duterte, if she were to be killed first"? That's one heck of a long title. HueMan1 (talk) 14:15, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd rather call it the Marcos-Duterte dispute or vice versa. Borgenland (talk) 14:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd like this, but its Martin Romualdez that's doing the dirty work. I kinda like 2024 Philippine congressional hearings on Sara Duterte until Sara Duterte is impeached (since this is where they are going at), then it becomes Impeachment of Sara Duterte. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I folded up Romualdez as a blood relative of Marcos (can't make it look like a three-way fight) but I am leaning support for this. Borgenland (talk) 19:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yeah Marcos-Romualdez-Duterte dispute looks weird. Are we going to wait until VPSD is impeached or has someone already has something in the drafts or somewhere? We can have VPSD's staffmembers names redirected to that article, such as Acosta's, once created. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:03, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Upon further thought, Marcos–Duterte dispute or even Romualdez–Duterte dispute is not exactly right as House representatives have been the ones doing the dirty work, while Romauldez is mostly behind the scenes; i.e. Romualdez doesn't show up on hearings.
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Any of these article titles will be superseded if VPSD is impeached (by these reasons). Howard the Duck (talk) 21:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sara Duterte

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Hello people! I nominated Sara Duterte on ITN you can check this ITN Sara Duterte. Let me know if I need changes or suggestions. Royiswariii Talk! 05:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

As much as "In the news" is named "In the news", it doesn't actually include everything that's "In the news". If Sara were impeached over this, then yes, that would be ITN-worthy. But statements are just statements; nothing has happened. This is a nothingburger. Chlod (say hi!) 05:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, i thought that too but i just tried to ITN if it will entered my nomination since and this is a controversial and a big conflict.Royiswariii Talk! 05:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Requested move at Talk:Libingan ng mga Bayani#Requested move 26 November 2024

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Libingan ng mga Bayani#Requested move 26 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 11:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Man, this WP:RM is so shameful LOL. This should not have been done. Now there's a chance this will be moved to the article name absolutely none of English speaking Filipinos (sorry, not part of the English speaking world now I guess?) use. Utter shambles! Howard the Duck (talk) 01:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mashiding Lomandong

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Could someone from this WikiProject take a look at Mashiding Lomandong and assess it per WP:BIO? Most of the sources cited in the article are to Facebook posts, and the creator might have a WP:COI. If, however, the subject is notable, those things could possibly be cleaned up or better sources could be found. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

At this stage it qualifies for speedy deletion. Borgenland (talk) 07:54, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article was speedily deleted but was recreated shortly afterwards by the author, who changed name. It has been nominated again for deletion on similar grounds. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mashiding Lomandong. Borgenland (talk) 16:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
And I have suspicion that at least one participant in the discussion may be a sock. Borgenland (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
There are now two possible socks. Borgenland (talk) 09:32, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Photography task force

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Many articles are lacking proper pictures and portraits to represent a visual identification of the article, which is heavily needed in order to make articles more "proper" and to make them more "readable". One of the possible solutions to this is a proposed photography task force where you list articles which need pictures and have a "request" to add one. I'm sure there's a system there at the to-do page, but the system looks pale.

This might be more far-fetched, but I also propose a provincial system, where Wikipedians from that specific province get requests to take pictures of near landmarks, like where Commons finds your location and shows you the nearest landmarks to take a picture of, but I don't think there's a public demand for these pictures.

So there might be a need of a photography task force, hence my three-paragraph comment, but there might be problems along this path. Do we really need these pictures? Do editors want to show their respective province? But even though these problems might stall this project, I think these problems won't largely impact this task force project. I might be overthinking though, but this might be needed. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 09:01, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Before organizing a provincial system for photos, it would be good to know 1) what articles don't have images, 2) whether we are sure relevant images don't exist on Commons already. CMD (talk) 09:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
There is no need for a separate list of pages. {{WikiProject Tambayan Philippines}} includes a |needs-image= parameter which automatically categorizes pages into Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the Philippines. Much of these are schools, institutions, and buildings which cannot be given images on Commons due to the lack of freedom of panorama in the country (though they may be uploaded as non-free images instead). Landmarks, statues, and other creative public works are also out due to this same issue, making the appeal of trying to get photographers anywhere in the country to take photos of landmarks nil. There is still the minority of pages which aren't affected by the lack of FoP, but most of these need more effort than just travelling to a building and snapping a quick photo. Chlod (say hi!) 09:38, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, FOP is a problem. You can't just snap pics anywhere. Even sidewalks are not a fair game LOL. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

MABINI

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ライブ Mabuhay! I have created a stub for Movement of Attorneys for Brotherhood, Integrity, and Nationalism, also known as MABINI. But I am sure many people won't find it using that name, so I am thiking to also create a redirect at MABINI (Human Rights Organization) or something like that. The problem is obviously, there are very many pages named with some variation of Mabini. I am not sure how best to proceed with making the page more accessible. Would you have any suggestions? - Chieharumachi (talk) 13:03, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ramón Alcaraz and Ramon A. Alcaraz

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Oh, I have also noticed that the World War II and Martial Law era hero Ramon A. Alcaraz has an awkward disambiguation, probably because the Ramón Alcaraz article is older. Is there a way to make this situation more fair? Like talking to the Tambayan equivalent in Mexico? What to do next? - Chieharumachi (talk) 13:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Make an RM like what was done with Talk:Mariano Gomez (priest)#Requested move 25 February 2021. GiantSnowman's suggestion was a good one. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:49, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
But with both the Mexican and the Filipino being military officers, what term would be best? Ramón Alcaraz (Mexico) and Ramon Alcaraz (Philippines)? Ramón Alcaraz (Mexican Army) and Ramon Alcaraz (Philippine Navy)? Ramón Alcaraz (Mexican military writer) and Ramon Alcaraz (Philippine Navy Commodore)? - Chieharumachi (talk) 15:05, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Occupation is usually the norm. Borgenland (talk) 15:49, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply