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Mass-mail subscription list shells
editBelow is a list of empty shells that are available for use in the mass message subscription list content model. To use one, go to the page, and move it to the title you want. These pages should typically only be moved to the User and Project namespaces. New shells can be created by administrators and template editors.
- Mass message senders/Shell-0115
- Mass message senders/Shell-0116
- Mass message senders/Shell-0117
- Mass message senders/Shell-0118
- Mass message senders/Shell-0119
- Mass message senders/Shell-0120
- Mass message senders/Shell-0121
- Mass message senders/Shell-0122
- Mass message senders/Shell-0123
- Mass message senders/Shell-0124
- Mass message senders/Shell-0125
- Mass message senders/Shell-0126
General discussions
editDuplicate request venue?
editThanks for adding that hatnote earlier, Aaron Liu; I didn't even know Wikipedia:Mass message senders/Requests existed. Judging by the age of the two remaining requests, I don't think anyone else did either. I just moved § Request for mass message delivery: July 5, 2024, which was previously at that page, and delivered it. Is it time to mark the page as historical and direct editors back to this talk page to make requests? Courtesy ping for page creator Terasail. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd suggest redirecting editors to this page. I've had MMS rights for a while and was never aware that the other one existed. This page also seems to be the more active of the two. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- As indicated at the top of Wikipedia:Mass message senders/Requests, that page was being developed and isn't an active venue for requests. See Wikipedia talk:Mass message senders/Archive 7 § Split archives into discussion & requests. isaacl (talk) 04:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Be that as it may, it seems the proposal hasn't quite worked out. The page has fewer than 30 watchers, while this one has 134, significantly reducing the chance that a request will be missed for even a day, let alone a year and a half. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- No requests should go on that page, and it's already marked as under development and not in active use. There should be no hatnote on this page pointing to it. isaacl (talk) 21:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see no mark of "not in active use", nor do I see a non-custom template that would say that. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- With this information in mind, I've boldly added a couple of notices indicating that the page is not ready for use at the moment. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see no mark of "not in active use", nor do I see a non-custom template that would say that. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- No requests should go on that page, and it's already marked as under development and not in active use. There should be no hatnote on this page pointing to it. isaacl (talk) 21:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's why I decided to add the hatnote instead of attempting to merge it. However, as mentioned, the page has serious usability issues, and development seems to have ceased. What we could do is work out a way to transclude it below, I guess. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Because there has been very little feedback, it's not clear to me what those with the mass messaging permission would prefer. I've advocated for separating requests onto their own page several times, but ultimately it's up to those responding to the requests to decide what works best for them. isaacl (talk) 21:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your approach would be the ideal solution, and I also find it more organizationally efficient. However, the proposed page simply doesn't get enough attention to be viable, and usage of this page to make mailing requests seems to have become the norm over the years. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would have no objection to housing requests on a separate page, my only suggestion is that we limit requests to one page, whether it be here or a separate page. If we move them to the other page, transclude it below, leave notes, and add instructions directing to that page instead; it's bound to become over the norm over a period of time. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- The draft page doesn't get any attention because it's not active. Should that page become the sole way to make requests, the instructions would be revised accordingly. isaacl (talk) 01:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your approach would be the ideal solution, and I also find it more organizationally efficient. However, the proposed page simply doesn't get enough attention to be viable, and usage of this page to make mailing requests seems to have become the norm over the years. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Because there has been very little feedback, it's not clear to me what those with the mass messaging permission would prefer. I've advocated for separating requests onto their own page several times, but ultimately it's up to those responding to the requests to decide what works best for them. isaacl (talk) 21:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Be that as it may, it seems the proposal hasn't quite worked out. The page has fewer than 30 watchers, while this one has 134, significantly reducing the chance that a request will be missed for even a day, let alone a year and a half. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- This was just an idea that I had created a while back to attempt to get the requests moved off this page and onto a separate page, as I never really liked MMS requests being on the second half of this talk page. This was just an example page, and shouldn't be used unless all MMS requests are moved to that page. I never recieved much feedback on this and from the start of this year haven't had much free time to revisit things that I started. If someone wants to take this project on and make it a reality, go ahead, I would support it. Terasail[✉️] 15:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Is my request too large?
editRecently decided to re-relaunch The Downlink, WikiProject Spaceflight's newsletter. Instead of going straight into the new issues, I decided to do a special issue recapping everything that had happened since the last issue. I very quickly realized that a single issue would be way too long, so I decided to separate it into two special issues, the first going to 31 December 2023 and the second covering all of 2024. Even so, Special Issue 1 is very large; by byte-size, it's well over twice as large as the next largest issue (it's currently 26,118 bytes, and it will grow). Is it too large to be sent out using MassMessage, or is it too large to be sent out at all? It does start collapsed (I have verified this), so it shouldn't clutter talk pages. Ships & Space(Edits) 18:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would say yes, this page is far too long to be reasonable as a mass message. I'd recommend drafting a short summary of the letter (perhaps recycling some its formatting) which leads readers to the full page if they click on something (perhaps including links to sections). The Signpost does something similar which you could take inspiration from. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:52, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Will put together a short notice after I've completed the newsletter. Ships & Space(Edits) 22:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Would 10,000 bytes or so be about the upper limit? That seems to be how large the typical Downlink issue is. Ships & Space(Edits) 22:38, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would suggest including only updates from 2023 and 2024, or just from 2024. While it's helpful to include older updates, folks generally prefer newsletters with more recent information, and updates from 2021 and 2022 might feel outdated. You are free to make the final decision; this is just a friendly suggestion. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
MassMessage Delivery Requests
editRequest for mass message delivery: October 2, 2024
editWould someone please deliver the announcements from Cricket WikiProject to its member pages.
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/News/Mailing list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Announcements from WikiProject Cricket
(already included in the message) - Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/News/December 2024/Invite}}
- Requested delivery date:
ASAP
Thanks for your assistance! Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 06:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- In progress. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sent. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 7, 2024
editWould someone please deliver → proposal for new Chicago Wikipedia meetup ←
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago/Invite_list
- Subject of mass mailing:
→ Chicago Meetup for WikiData Day ←
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:User:Luiysia/Chicago WikiData Day Meetup }}
- Requested delivery date:
→ ASAP ←
Thanks for your assistance! Luiysia (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- In progress. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Luiysia: Would you mind amending your message to identify yourself as the sender? Appending your signature to the end would work. I would also recommend including a link to the mailing list somewhere to allow recipients to easily unsubscribe if they wish. Thank you for taking the initiative to organize this event, and I wish you the best with it! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've added my username and a bit about me to the message, and a link to the invite list. And thanks!
- Luiysia (talk) 22:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Luiysia: Would you mind amending your message to identify yourself as the sender? Appending your signature to the end would work. I would also recommend including a link to the mailing list somewhere to allow recipients to easily unsubscribe if they wish. Thank you for taking the initiative to organize this event, and I wish you the best with it! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 8, 2024
editWould someone please deliver Administrator Elections: Call for Candidates
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Administrator elections/Newsletter list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Administrator Elections: Call for Candidates
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/MMS/Call for candidates}}
- Requested delivery date:
"any time"
Thanks for your assistance! –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- In progress; handling this as an ASAP request since the sign-ups have already begun. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sent. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Sent in record time :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 11, 2024
editWould someone please deliver Two proposals for WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older/Notice list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Elder Wikipedians
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older/Notice}}
- Requested delivery date:
soon
Thanks for your assistance! Buaidh talk e-mail 23:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
In progress.—TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:43, 11 October 2024 (UTC)- Self-trout. So sorry, I'd forgotten that my mass message flag expired earlier this week! Leaving this open for someone who can actually send this out, though this is not ASAP priority. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Doing – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 14, 2024
editWould someone please deliver Notice about Cricket Picture of the Year 2024
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Contests/Mailing list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Cricket Picture of the Year 2024 – Nominations open now!
(already included in the message) - Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Contests/Cricket Picture of the Year/2024/Notice 1}}
- Requested delivery date:
15 October 2024, 00:00 UTC
Thanks for your assistance! Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 12:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 01:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 18, 2024
editWould someone please deliver Administrator Elections: Candidate instructions
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Candidate newsletter list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Administrator Elections: Candidate instructions
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/MMS/Candidate instructions}}
- Requested delivery date:
"any time"
Thanks for your assistance! –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Made a quick copyedit to the message; leaving the delivery to someone else. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Doing... TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done Checked five random pages and everything seems good. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done Checked five random pages and everything seems good. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 21, 2024
editWould someone please deliver Administrator Elections: Discussion phase
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Administrator elections/Newsletter list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Administrator Elections: Discussion phase
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/MMS/Discussion phase}}
- Requested delivery date:
ASAP
Thanks for your assistance! –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sending – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. You're a rockstar! –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 21, 2024 (2)
editWould someone please deliver Administrator Elections: Voting phase
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Administrator elections/Newsletter list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Administrator Elections: Voting phase
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/MMS/Voting phase}}
- Requested delivery date:
ASAP
Thanks for your assistance! –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Doing... – robertsky (talk) 00:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done with a last minute fix for lint error just before the MMS does its thing. – robertsky (talk) 00:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done with a last minute fix for lint error just before the MMS does its thing. – robertsky (talk) 00:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: October 23, 2024
editWould someone please deliver a message to some users of my user scripts?
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: User:Anne drew/scripts-mailing-list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Important: Please update user script installation
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:User:Anne drew/scripts-message-content}}
- Requested delivery date: any time
The full context for this request is here, but in short, a bunch of users have scripts installed using my old username which results in the scripts not working. The only way to fix it is to have them update the links in their js files to use my new username. The list of users I provided all have a user script installed under my old username. Hope that makes sense, thanks for your assistance! – Anne drew 23:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, DreamRimmer! – Anne drew 00:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: November 6, 2024
editWould someone please deliver Online meet
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Meetup/US Mountain West/Invitation list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Online meet
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:User:Buaidh/MW notice}}
- Requested delivery date:
November 6, 2024
- Admins/Mass message senders: send mass message
Thanks for your assistance! Buaidh talk e-mail 01:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yoo-hoo. Is anyone here? Do you need another sender? Buaidh talk e-mail 14:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Buaidh: Sending. Apologies for the delay. I have subscribed to this page, but I am not receiving notifications as requests are formatted in subsections, and subscription notifications do not work for these. In the future, if you need instant delivery, please ping me when you post the request, and I will ensure it is delivered promptly. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sent – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Request for mass message delivery: November 20, 2024
editHi! Would someone please deliver this notification for a local Chicago meetup.
- Here are the details
- Mailing list: Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago/Invite_list
- Subject of mass mailing:
Chicago Meetup for December 14
- Content of mass mailing: {{subst:User:Luiysia/Chicago December 14 Meetup }}
- Requested delivery date: any time
@DreamRimmer: Pinging as requested above. Thanks for your assistance! Luiysia (talk) 20:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sending – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:11, 21 November 2024 (UTC)