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- Suspected sockpuppeteer
Azukimonaka (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
Orchis29 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
KoreanShoriSenyou (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Amazonfire (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
43.244.133.167 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Limited200802th (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Kamosuke (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
NekoNekoTeacher (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
ShinjukuXYZ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Necmate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
DDRG (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
LuckyandLucky (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Limited200802th (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Various IP editors from Japan's ODN network.
- Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/KoreanShoriSenyou
- Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Amazonfire
- 3RRArchive63#User:219.66.41.150 reported by User:Appletrees (Result:24 hours)
- 3RRArchive63#User:43.244.133.167 reported by User:Appletrees (Result:Sock IP blocked 1 week)added by User:Appletrees
- Report submission by Thatcher 17:44, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I am filing this report for Appletrees (talk · contribs), who seems to need some help with the process. There are a number of Japanese and Korean editors edit-warring over a number of articles. At least one editor, and possibly two, have taken an interest in Appletrees specifically.
The checkuser findings are given above. See also User_talk:Thatcher#KoreanShoriSenyou_case. For example, on 25 January there were 4 reverts of Imperial House of Japan, two by an IP editor and two by Amazonfire. The same IP editor also reverted Appletrees at Timeline of Japan-South Korea relations and made a comment at Manga, which Appletreees had edited. It is 
Likely that the IP editor is the same as Orchis29, Azukimonaka and KoreanShoriSenyou. The connection between Amazonfire is more difficult to pin down. Either there are two people who have independently decided to target Appletrees, or there is one person who uses two different methods to connect to the internet and has so far managed to avoid a technical slip (Amazonfire has <100 edits to date). The editor who is behind the Azukimonaka account quite frequently edits while logged out and is POV pusher with a history of uncivil edit summaries. Details in the checkuser reports and I will ask Appletrees to make a comment here.
The evidence of a connection between the named accounts is strong; many IP edits that have a strong anti-Korean POV are likely made by the same person. The connection between Amazonfire and the others is more tenuous and the contribution history should be looked at. Administrative action of some kind is required here, some combination of blocking, warning, and semi-protection for the affected articles.
- Evidence
One example, others at the checkuser cases.
Possible 3RR violation with ip
- 1st revert 16:59, 25 January 2008 by 61.209.160.250
- 2nd revert 21:16, 25 January 2008 by 61.209.160.250
- 3rd revet 23:20, 25 January 2008 by Amazonfire
- 4th revert 06:32, 26 January 2008 by Amazonfire
- Timeline of Japan-South Korea relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This article is created by User:Azukimonaka at 12 October 2007 The dispute between me and Japanese users is inclusion of personal opinion (Japan gave a relief to South Korea) This comment is not mentioned on the citation (it is just a statics) but the Japanese users insist on putting it to the article.
It was originally added by 61.209.165.189 at 07:31, 26 October 2007
- 1st revert 21:21, 25 January 2008 by 61.209.160.250
- 2nd revert 23:05, 25 January 2008 by Amazonfire
- 3rd revert 06:33, 26 January 2008 by Amazonfire
- I looked through their whole contribution history and not surprisingly they didn't generally appear same day except a few and their edits are never overlapped. The two violet boxes show the closet time ranges. So if checkusers sees it, they likely can confirm whether Azukimonaka and KoreanShoriSenyou are the same person or not.--Appletrees (talk) 04:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Relevant pas RFCU and SSP files by other editors
- Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kamosuke
- User_talk:Akhilleus/archive7#Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets.2FVml132f
- Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/DDRG
- Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Ikedanobuo
- Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Vml132f
- Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Vml132f
- Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/DDRG
- Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mackan
| was being writtten |
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| Kamosuke = Azukimonaka = KorenaShoriSenyou = Orchis29 = ShinjukuXYZ = NekoNekoTeacher = Necmate = 43.244.133.167
I believe these people are the same editor per the following reasons. If you see it, you will notice the users' interests are all similar and same pattern of writing such as using passive sentences rather than active sentences such as concealed or denied. They like using "insistence" and "ground" or "groundless" rather claim, assertion or than citation, source, or evidence, etc. I'm not good at writing in English but they all make the same errors in tense such as "was being hated by" etc. The below are distinctive examples for the claim that they're all the same person.
As for Kamosuke, he and HaradaSanosuke are the banned socks on August 2006 and are Softbank odn ISP users = 211.131.78.52[1]. Their (actually one person) writing style remarkably resemble that of Azukimonaka, KoreanShoriSenyou, Orchis29. I haven't looked through Kamasuke's contribution history, but he also made the same errors in writing past tense. ("was being written by someone") Kamosuke created his account at 2005-11-19T08:01:02.[2] According to the remain block log, He had been a long-time abusive troll and I strongly believe he has transformed as new edior with countless sock puppetry.
This apparent sock ip doesn't seem to be a dynamic address. I think this should be blocked infinitely as well.
Although ShinjukuXYZ was proven as a sock of NekoNekoTeacher, they were not infinitely blocked. They seem abusively used the accounts though. I think this account should be infinitely blocked along with another sock accounts.
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--Appletrees (talk) 01:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
| same writing style |
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They write poor wording in English and the literary word, erroneous is not commonly used and is likely for non-English speakers to see it in advanced test preparation books like GRE, GMAT. Although the ISP is not ODN (SoftBank Telecom) but OCN (NTT telecom), these user are all same user.
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--Appletrees (talk) 15:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comments
- Appletrees asked me to comment here, and I'll state it bluntly: blocks and protection all round, either we have socks of a disruptive and poisonously biased user who is a complete waste of space, or multiple users who fall into that category. However, that's my gut feeling from a quick check, rather than the more exhaustive checking and investigating process that will probably be required. I'm not on as much these days, and can't commit myself to more in-depth analysis right now. In past dealings with the user I recall I was frequently reverting and blocking. Deiz talk 14:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- According to your investigation, Neither Orchis29 nor Amazonfire appear. Who does want to indict it by you? Who do you want to accuse? --KoreanShoriSenyou (talk) 10:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I relocate your comment because you left it in the wrong place. I don't need to paste the same contents of the RFCU file on you. You can visit the page and find about how many times your possible sockpuppt activities are mentioned. As you see this file is reported by Thactcher, the trusted checkuser and admin. Not only abovementioned users, there will be much more than that. In addition, of course, in the "was being written box", you and orchies29 mentioned. As for Amazonfire, I'm cleaning up my another report a bit, so you wouldn't miss to see it soon.--Appletrees (talk) 10:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK. By the way, You insist, 25 users are "Koreansyorisenyo's account".[5] However, does it have grounds?. For instance, Endroit rejected your opinion by the name of the Sea of Japan. (You are requesting that the Sea of Japan is changed to a local name of Korea "East Sea". ) Amazonfire conflicts with you by the doubt of the author of So Far from the Bamboo Grove. You are indiscriminately indicting the user who opposes your opinion. Do you have the preparation for apologizing to them? --KoreanShoriSenyou (talk) 10:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- KoreanShoriSenyou or Exclusive use for disposal of Chosenjin, I have no plan to let you you indulging your insistence. Endroit hasn't apologized to me for his accusation yet and the suspected people have been always on RFCU or SSP because of their suspicious and disruptive POV pushing. I haven't tagged "sock accusation" template on you and the others for their reputation, so I can hear your appreciation for that. However, you should apologize for your deception and mockery with your account name to all Korean editors. --Appletrees (talk) 10:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Conclusions
- I am blocking 43.244.133.167 for a month and Orchis29, Azukimonaka and KoreanShoriSenyou indef each, with KoreanShoriSenyou the master account. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)...IP already blocked 3 months by other admin. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)