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November 20

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Caracal escapade

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I saw on a few news sources a caracal was on the loose, roaming in the streets of Chicago. It took police personnel and animal control to capture the animal. Thankfully, no one was hurt. By any chance could it have escaped from the Brookfield Zoo Chicago? Would the caracal's adventure inspire an episode of Chicago P.D. (TV series)?2603:7000:8641:810E:891A:9BCE:905A:9F59 (talk) 04:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

1. (Brookfield zoo) - nobody knows. Examining this news report and this one, I see a lot of assumptions that it's domesticated (and therefore an escaped pet), based on, in the first place, nothing, and in the second place that it "doesn't hunt very well": but at the same time it's reported that it may be as young as five months old, so that might explain its lack of skill. Zoos aren't known to conceal their escapes. The lack of any other possibilities points to an escaped pet.
2. (Chicago P.D.) Even on the entertainment desk, we don't answer requests for predictions. You ask if it "would" inspire an episode. Looking at the plots in use so far this year I see topics like violent robbery, social work, homelessness, alcoholism, hate crime, drug trafficking, and a serial killer. Generally speaking the subject matter is gritty, and doesn't appear to be inspired by specific recent news stories, so I'll say no, it wouldn't. But again, nobody knows.  Card Zero  (talk) 05:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

what are the lyrics

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anyone know the rest of the lyrics to "I roll up, I roll down" the mighty machines part? it has been on my mind for a long time Jude Marrero [=D (talk) 20:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I roll up, I roll down, I squash the garbage to the ground, Woah yeah, that's me. 64.53.18.252 (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Reckoning (1970 film) character Keresley

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In the 1970 film Peter Sallis plays the role of Keresley and he's credited as the 17th cast member on IMDB but at the end of the credits he's not shown in the credits and I also did not see him in the film. Can any of you guys try and get a photograph of which scene were Peter Sallis appeared in and then I know he's in the movie and I can list his role on IMDB as uncredited. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 22:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's extremely unlikely that someone is going to watch this 50-year-old movie more attentively than you did and snap a picture. However, our article on Peter Sallis lists The Reckoning among his screen credits and it's supported by a citation to the BFI. Whoever designed the BFI website search function hated the world and all who live on it, but this should give you the direct citation to confirm his presence in the movie (sixth name from the top). Matt Deres (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well, this is after all the world-renowned WP Entertainment desk, and I watched The Reckoning even more attentively (on DailyMotion) than Matt D might ever have expected, knowing who to look for: and if Peter Sallis is in the film, I reckon he's the uncredited pianist at the party at around 01:07 (the soundtrack continues for some time), and again at 01:13 but I'm not surprised you missed him. Sadly I have no drop box, and WP and Commons are unlikely to welcome a screenshot... But if you can manage to watch the film again, and with any version of Windows since Windows for Workgroups (3.11) you can pause the film and press Shift+PrintScreen at the desired moment. This takes a screenshot and copies it to the clipboard. Press WinKey and type mspaint (or open Paint), press Ctrl+V and save as .bmp file.
But what a weird, macho, sexist, unforgiving film. The unaccompanied song is "Believe Me, If All Those Endearing Young Charms" by Thomas Moore. Main music score by Malcolm Arnold. Liverpool has the same not-London feel as Newcastle in Get Carter with Michael Caine the following year. Brief shot (with "No Popery" graffiti) of St. John's Beacon the year after it was built (1969), I went up it in around 1972. I also saw Nicol Williamson as Malvolio in Twelfth Night with Jane Lapotaire, Patricia Hayes and Frank Thornton at the RSC in 1974.[1] Whoever designed the BFI site itself, let alone the search function, appears to have had a vast grudge against celluloid in all its forms. The rest of humanity comes a distant second. Eppur - si muove. MinorProphet (talk) 00:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I bet you were referring to the guy playing the piano that is Peter Sallis isn't it. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 00:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

November 22

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Parineti Hindi Tv

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we are angry 😡 because we cannot sleep 😴 because how come indian tv 📺 director refuses to tell people to use common sense to realise that dna 🧬 will prove that parvati is none other than babli’s sister pari still alive etc?(MissionWar123 (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)).Reply

Previously on Abuse the reference desk to vent about plot holes in Hindi soaps... We have an article on plot holes, that's the best I can do for you.  Card Zero  (talk) 08:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
😡 i do not care if it is fiction why is government allowing indian 📺 director to prevent parineti people actors actresses from using common sense to realise that 🧬 will prove that parvati is pari etc?(MissionWar123 (talk) 08:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)).Reply
OK, I went and read this article about the Indian government using media regulations for political censorship, and it does indeed seem that the Programme & Advertisement Code could be used to arbitrarily censor a soap if it "Criticises maligns or slanders any individual in person or certain groups, segments". (Wait, no, that only applies to online news. Perhaps some similarly vague restriction covers TV shows?) But who is maligned in this case, the actors? And how would the government benefit by intervening?
Idiot plot is perhaps a more relevant article than the one on plot holes. I wonder if any autocratic regime anywhere has ever been so annoyed by a badly plotted show as to use the law to change it.  Card Zero  (talk) 09:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@MissionWar123: If you think it's government job to allow or forbid TV directors to include any info or plot details in their production, ask them, the government, not us. We are not government, we are all-around-the-world volunteer editors of Wikipedia, with no power to solve your problems. Please stop your war mission here, it's pointless. Turn to local authorities instead. --CiaPan (talk) 09:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
😡 we cannot 😴 so we want you to ask government why the fuck is neeti so dumb to realise that 🧬 will prove that parvati is pari etc? MissionWar123 (talk) 09:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@MissionWar123: We cannot, either. The overwhelming majority of us does not live in your country, does not know the movie and even does not speak your language. We, sitting in Australia, Brazil, China, Denmark, Iran, Laos, Portugal, Senegal or Vietnam definitely have no better access to any govenmental or political forces in your country than you have. So please stop your war here, it leads to nowhere. EOT (3). --CiaPan (talk) 10:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
that is your problem now, that is coast guard’s problem etc.
😡 on 📺 how do people not think about 🧬 etc?(MissionWar123 (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)).Reply
I would watch it if I were you. Your posts from an IP address have been regularly removed. Now that you have an account, you can be blocked if your posts don't follow RD guidelines. Just some friendly advice for you. --Viennese Waltz 10:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
i found papers about parineti at bus station ok this is my first time to join wikipedia:
😡 on 📺 sorry how do dumb people not think about 🧬 etc?(MissionWar123 (talk) 11:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)).Reply

November 26

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First male to win a women’s sports title?

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Hi, I was hoping someone could point me to where I might find the first male to win a women’s sports title? It can be any sport, it doesn’t matter, it’s just that I’m doing a school report and I want to find something inspirational. Degurumcqueen (talk) 04:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Degurumcqueen I assume you mean a Trans woman? If so, I don't appreciate the transphobia. Sandcat555 (talk) 04:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

If you mean transgender athletes a good place to start would be our article on Transgender people in sports. -- Euryalus (talk) 04:47, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can someone please remove this bigotry? HiLo48 (talk) 02:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Seconded. I hate transphobia Sandcat555 (talk) 05:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Heinrich Ratjen won the women's high jump at the 1937 German Athletics Championships and the 1938 European Athletics Championships (as well as finishing 4th at the 1936 Summer Olympics). Clarityfiend (talk) 09:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ratjen is/was intersex. Sandcat555 (talk) 05:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article says male or intersex. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the earliest circle of 5ths in Western Europe

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My question needs a little bit of an introduction (apologies for that) but it finally arrives... Be patient.

The first time the circle of 5ths appears in Western Europe (it had already made its appearance in Russia some decades before) was in the theoretical works of Johann David Heinichen as a circle of major and minor keys. But there is something odd in the way Heinichen presents the circle of 5ths: he gives the major and minor keys interlaced (so his circle, which he doesn't call "circle of 5ths" but "musical circle", is in effect two circles of 5ths interlaced) and, most bizarrely, Heinichen puts the relative minor key *after* its relative major (in the direction of the sharps): ... F > d > C > a > G > e > ... If you want to interlace major and minor keys (or major and minor perfect chords which amounts to the same thing), a practice that was shortly thereafter abandoned, then logic would dictate that you put the relative minor *before* its relative major (in the direction of the sharps): ... d > F > a > C > e > G ... so that a lower root appears before a higher root. Also in this way every root is a 3rd apart and two adjacent chords in the "musical circle" always have two common tones, the 3rd and 5th of the 1st chord (the root and 3rd of the 2nd chord).

Now (finally) my question: Can anyone see *any* rationale to Heinichen's arrangement that I couldn't see?

178.51.16.158 (talk) 11:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I can't speak for everyone else, but I couldn't think of a reason. It always appeared to me that in teaching the theory of Western harmony, an approach based on a progression of alternating major and minor thirds would be easier to understand and also more convenient to learn from, thus:
        A♭      E♭      B♭      F       C       G       D       A          
     /-----\ /-----\ /-----\ /-----\ /-----\ /-----\ /-----\ /-----\       
    A♭  C   E♭  G   B♭  D   F   A   C   E   G   B   D   F♯  A   C♯  E   G♯ 
         \-----/ \-----/ \-----/ \-----/ \-----/ \-----/ \-----/ \-----/   
            c       g       d       a       e       b       f♯      c♯     
The top line names major triads, the bottom line names minor triads, and the middle line gives the names of the individual notes of which the triads are comprised. In this chart, where the direction of the sharps is from left to right, a is between F and C, and not between C and G as in Heinichen's circle.  --Lambiam 22:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
This is without doubt the only sane arrangement in my opinion. In fact schemes like the Tonnetz are arranged according to this very principle because, well, there is no alternative. Incidentally if you take the Tonnetz and construct a dual "Akkordnetz" by making every face (triangle) of the Tonnetz a vertex you get an extended version of what you have drawn above. But to get back to trying to understand Heinichen's reasoning, is it true that some theorists in the 17th c. and/or 18 c. took the diatonic scale of D (white keys from D to D, or in other words the "dorian" scale) as the prototype of the minor mode (instead of the scale of A, so called "aeolian", which is what is done nowadays)? I seem to remember statements to that effect, maybe when discussing incomplete key signatures used for the minor mode at that time. If that is indeed the case (and I'm not certain it is) could it be that Heinichen's "musical circle" which is a circle of keys would have d minor before C major, a minor before G major, etc. simply because to him the relative minor of C major is actually d dorian, and so on? 178.51.16.158 (talk) 10:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

November 27

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Statistics of the main film and television awards by genre

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Are there any statistical sources regarding film and television awards such as the Oscars, Golden Globes and Emmys that highlight the distribution of nominations and winners based on narrative genre? In particular, I would need information regarding statistics on historical genre films and TV series. Sources regarding the general trend of historical cinema over the decades would also be good. Thank you Sira Aspera (talk) 18:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I do not know of a source that does exactly what you want. The best that I can think of is to search Google for IMDB lists of winners and nominees in various categories. For example, you can search "IMDB list best picture nominees" (without the quotation marks). You can then click on a page. There will be a blue oval icon to the left of where the page says, "Sort by." This should call up a window that will break the list down by genre among other things. You will have to check to see if the list is accurate and up to date. FreeKresge (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

November 28

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TV show with cold open that ends with cut off curse word

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I saw this question today and while I can't find the answer, I do remember that it exists. A recent television show always started with a cold open that ended with a curse word being cut off as the title was shown. What is the name of the series? 68.187.174.155 (talk) 01:09, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Was it Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist (2020–2021)? --Canley (talk) 03:26, 29 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
TV Tropes mentions this as a running gag: The Cold Open for each episode ends with Zoey about to blurt out something like "What the..." and "Holy..." when the title appears, blocking over her mouth with the theme song.[2]  --Lambiam 04:30, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Across a Crowded Room available to watch on DVD or available online to watch

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I'm trying to find out if the 1978 TV play Across a Crowded Room produced by ITV Yorkshire has been released on DVD or available to watch online. The full movie is fully intact and has survived but I just don’t know where I can watch it. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 15:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

December 4

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Kitty Clive 1956 (TV play) Critics Response

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I'm looking to try and find what critics thought about the 1956 TV play Kitty Clive but struggling to find any newspaper articles about the TV play. So can any of you try and find out what critics thought about the TV play as well as a link so then I can include in a draft I'm making about the TV play/TV movie. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 00:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Kids International Show 1982 plot

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can any of my guys try and find out what the plot is of the 1982 tv mini series The Kids International Show produced by the BBC. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 00:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Does this help? https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/07d22f93bc2f44158381f8934b9584c0 TrogWoolley (talk) 07:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes Matthew John Drummond (talk) 15:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

December 5

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