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December 3

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 3, 2024.

Conflict in Ukraine

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra ‹ u — c › 21:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The term "conflict" can refer to more than just armed confrontations or external disputes. This redirect is potentially misleading and may cause confusion. Cuvaj (talk) 18:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - While conflict CAN mean other things, I do not believe it is likely that someone searching for a conflict in Ukraine intends to mean anything other than a war. Heck, though it sniffs of WP:RECENTISM, I doubt someone searching this exact phrase is looking for anything other than the CURRENT war in Ukraine... I wouldn't object to simply targeting that article either, but my main !vote is to just leave it be. Fieari (talk) 05:43, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is frankly a baffaling nomanation to me. I really don't see a need to delete this, and honestly, the account is strangely knowledgeable of wiki policy for such a young account. I mean, the 4th edit cited MOS:DABPRIMARY. That seems a bit in the weeds for most new editors. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2025–26 I-League

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No relevant information at the target about the season, making the redirect currently misleading. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Ritwik Mahatat@lk 18:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Gerecter

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 10#Gerecter

List of Cuphead speedrunning records

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The game Cuphead is not mentioned in that article, let alone a list of records. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further thoughts on the pre-BLAR page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

stash references 1-4 somewhere for later use, and then delete. speedrun.com is not a reliable source cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:37, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Tower Cam

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found this while searching for "Tower camera", which is exactly what it sounds like. Instead, it redirected me to this random town in Virginia with zero mention of this "Tower Cam" and with zero pageviews. Who knows, maybe I'll make a Tower Cam article in the future, but for right now this shouldn't redirect here. (Tower cameras have captured numerous violent tornadoes, and if anything deserve their own article.) EF5 14:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alternative language redirects to Shohei Ohtani

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects of Shohei's Ohtani's name from other languages (in order listed that they appear nomination: Ukrainian, Russian, Arabic, Hindi, and Hebrew) that are not relevant to the target. Delete per WP:RLANG. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per nom. Ohtani is not affined to Arabic nor any Slavic languages Ca talk to me! 13:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ca: For full transparency, you replied prior to me merging the noms, and adding the Hindi nom to the page. I've now combined all four into one nomination and, based on your comment, I believe you had intended to vote on all 3 that had been here (all except for the Hindi). Just pinging to let you know that I did include your comment after I merged all four. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for notifying me. I support deletion of the Hindi name as well. Ca talk to me! 13:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awkwardly, again in the name of transparency, I've added two more redirects from Hebrew and Bhojpuri. I do not want your vote to be mispresented in any way, hence the ping again @Ca. I've also checked all links to Shohei Ohtani and there are no other alternative language ones that I intend to nominate :P Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I support the deletion of the new entries as well, except for שभोजपुरी, whose inclusion appears to a mistake. Ca talk to me! 14:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What... how did I... my bad. Removing that, thank you for pointing that out. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:FORRED. Maybe if Shohei was Russian, Tajik, Arabic, Indian or from Isreal one of these redirects would've made sense. But, nope, Shohei is Japanese so only 大谷翔平 should exist (actually, 大谷 翔平 doesn't exist but it probably should since it's directly mentioned in the article) Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CraftBukkit

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Mention has been added (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 13:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unmentioned in target nor in Minecraft server Ca talk to me! 13:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For context, CraftBukkit is a plugin for hosting minecraft servers Ca talk to me! 13:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Chaur

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible misspelling; low pageviews(1 in last 30 days); poteiential for confusion with the Sikhism concept of Chaur [1]. Ca talk to me! 13:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete per the second half of the nom's reasoning. plausible tpyo though cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sikhism Delete, I thought Sikhism would've at least mentioned Chaur Sahib in passing, but it doesn't seem like it. Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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polypifer

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 10#polypifer

Save battery

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 10#Save battery

Battery save

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

possible confusion with other methods of "saving" "batteries"? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Delete - It is mentioned, it could possibly be mentioned more, but in this word order my first thought of a target would have been methods of prolonging battery life, which, while we do have some mentions to this topic in multiple battery articles scattered around, we don't have a central location that discusses this. Fieari (talk) 00:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Tshiamo Nong

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This person is a model, but not famous enough to be mentioned in the Model (person) article. No good alternative presents itself for a retarget. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2027 Formula One World Championship

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 09:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"There's no relevant information for the 2027 season at the target, so if anybody were to search for this page's title, the target would be misleading. Yes, there are contracted grand prix through x years, but that's not really what people are actually trying to find when they search for this term." I've quoted Hey man im josh from the recent AfD who articulated this much better than I could. There was a consensus against redirect at said AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2027 Formula One World Championship), so I don't know why this was recreated. SSSB (talk) 07:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't think the AfD consensus against redirecting, but there is no mention in the target. Ca talk to me! 10:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ac/DC

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus whether its useful or not. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary redirect; When would a user have AC lowercased and DC uppercased? Hexware (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 05:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

keep. while the inconsistent capitalization hurts me as much as people who use "it's" as the possessive form of "it" (do y'all say "hi's"?), it's not really implausible in any way. at this point, it's kind of not recent anymore, so there goes that, i guess cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
no big opinion on retargeting to the dab, by the way cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 06:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is literally the kind of scenario WP:CHEAP was made for Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:CHEAP. The capitalization isn't hurting things here, and it's also potentially helpful—it'll get readers to their intended destination regardless. Regards, SONIC678 07:52, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Db-pagemove

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Retarget to Template:Db-move to respect the present, not decade-old oddities. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per nom. G3 is a CSD for vandalism, not technical page moves. Ca talk to me! 10:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cicindela redirects

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Subgenera, or species for that matter, should not redirect back to the genus unless they are significantly discussed there. Suggest retargetting to the appropriate sections of List of Cicindela species, where they are discussed, or deleting. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 23:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Speaking as the creator of these redirects, I have no personal preference here, but I point out that these two redirects of mine were originally redirects to Calomera and Cicindelidia, which were at the time separate articles from Cicindela. Also, these redirects are still linked to by the articles Cicindela littoralis and Cicindela floridana as well as the template Template:Taxonomy/Cicindela (Cicindelidia) Monster Iestyn (talk) 00:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 02:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump Won

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election#Trump won. It appears that a suitable target where this exact phrase is discussed in an encyclopedic content was found, which has had near unanimous support since its proposal. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect seems to be getting a few pageviews, however Trump also won in 2016, so i suggest either deleting it or convert it to disambiguation. Airtransat236 (talk | contribs) 22:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I don't really see the point of a "Trump Won" page even as a redirect
Artem...Talk 22:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This title is extremely vague and unamenable to disambiguation. Ca talk to me! 05:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I support a retarget per Michael Aurel below Ca talk to me! 00:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong retarget per the above reply by @Michael Aurel. I think that this is my first time ever prefixing a !vote with "Strong". I had come across this redirect a few days ago and was visiting to restore its former target when I realized that it has been listed for discussion. –Gluonz talk contribs 22:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do the other elections make noteworthy use of the phrase? -- Tavix (talk) 18:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 02:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong retarget to Presidency of Donald Trump Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Paw, Paw

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The word "paw" doesn't appear anywhere in the target article. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:434F:7EAA:14AD:DD9B (talk) 13:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak retarget to Paw Paw (disambiguation) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 14:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Apparently Paw Paw was one of her dogs, which (surprise surprise) aren't important enough to mention by name in her bio article. There's no reason why it should have had the comma in there in the first place, nor is there any particular reason to keep this around for any of the various other uses, none of which make any sense with a comma inserted. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The comma makes this very implausible to target anywhere. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Not sure if there's any good target in the dab page. --Lenticel (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Paw Paw (disambiguation) Edit: the disambiguation tag is not needed. It got 7 hits this year, might as well send those hits to something plausible. I disagree that a comma is implausible for all of the targets at that dab. I mean, sure, a comma is not ACCURATE for any of the targets, but accurate is not the same thing as plausible. People make mistakes, after all. Fieari (talk) 05:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    7 hits in a year is background noise. Arguing for a retarget is the same as arguing for a delete, and then for the creation of a new redirect....a creation that no one would ever reasonably make, because it'd be useless. We don't need to bend over backwards to try to find a home for wayward, useless redirects. Nothing of value is lost from deletion. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Retargeting is not delete in RfD. But in AfD, a redirect in general is considered a deletion, so this redirect could be seen as deleted already, following your logic. Web-julio (talk) 18:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    At RfD, supporting retargeting by no means implies support of deletion of the original redirect. Someone giving their position as retargeting is not saying anything as to whether they think the original redirect ought to be deleted or kept in a hypothetical world without the choice of an alternative target; all they are saying is that the alternative target is a better target than the original one. – Michael Aurel (talk) 19:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not true. A choice to retarget is equivalent to deleting, and then making a new redirect with a new target (barring page history concerns, which isn't really an issue here). Just because a target is better doesn't mean it's good enough to go out of our way to create anew. Unlike articles, deletion of redirects is relatively harmless, since they can always be recreated with very little effort if needed. And in this case, as has been demonstrated, this is a particularly useless redirect. No one in their right mind would make this redirect, hence, it should be deleted, even if you did identify a technically "better" target. "Better" ≠ "good enough". 35.139.154.158 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If "X" is a redirect to "Y", and at RfD I support retargeting "X" to "Z", all this means is that I think "Z" is a better target than "Y". I might still think that, if "Z" weren't a possible target, "X" pointing to "Y" would be a perfectly fine redirect. This is all I said, and nothing about this is "not true". – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    all this means is that I think "Z" is a better target than "Y". I might still think that, if "Z" weren't a possible target, "X" pointing to "Y" would be a perfectly fine redirect.. It might in other cases, but no one here has suggested that the current target is reasonable. My line of reasoning here is under the assumption that it's between a choice to delete or retarget, which this one pretty clearly is. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, but I was only speaking in general, as indicated by me starting my comment with At RfD. – Michael Aurel (talk) 01:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: (non-admin comment) Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JuniperChill (talk) 21:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question as previous relister… Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 02:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Paw Paw. Yeah, this one seems rather obvious to me :P Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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