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December 12

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 12, 2024.

Morgan & Claypool

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Nomination on behalf of Phoebe, who blanked the page with the edit summary, take out redirect, this is incorrect. M&C was an independent publisher that went out of business in 2022. Some of their titles (the Synthesis content) went to SpringerNature. They copublished with IOP on some titles, but not all of them Cremastra ‹ u — c › 21:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Atypon. Considering they are under Ig Publishing I am genuinely confused as to why it was under IOP publishing in the first place. Would @Phoebe agree? The issue is that it isn't mentioned oce there but it seems Morgan and claypool are from Ig Publishing. Edit: Their website was actually partnered with Atypon as seen here, so maybe Atypon is a better redirect than Ig publishing.
This0k (talk) 20:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cash Bartlett

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Ambigious, no reliable sources with such name NotAGenious (talk) 20:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fountin pen

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Implausible typo. This redirect has received less than 20 pageviews throughout its entire existence. Also, fountin does not exist as a redirect to fountain. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, phonetic misspelling; "fountain" is pronounced fowntĭn (faʊntɪn) to rhyme with tin, so this is very plausible for an ESL speaker. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 20:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clone character

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Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete. not even exclusive to fighting games, and i doubt clone would be a good target cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The: Mahabharata

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Haven't been able to find anywhere where a colon is used after the "the". mwwv converse∫edits 18:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cisidentity

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Wiktionary or their equivalent -gender articles? LIrala (talk) 17:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really seeing the point of those redirects but redirecting to Wiktionary seems unlikely to be helpful. It seems like they should both link to the articles but maybe I'm missing the point here? --DanielRigal (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DanielRigal The point of the redirects? The terms are more used academically in journals or activist writing in English, and are the literal translations of the terms French Wikipedia uses in the mainspace titles, probably because of WP:NOUN policies plus the terms being more formal in French. Cisidentity, specifically, seems to be a protologism. I guess people redirect them to Wiktionary because the terms are not mentioned in the main articles. Though recently some egregious groups started using them to mean "cisid" and "transid". LIrala (talk) 04:09, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe they should be mentioned in the main articles then? I'm not sure to what extent French terminology should guide us but if redirecting to Wiktionary makes more sense for reasons that I'm not getting then that's fine. I do think that both should do the same thing though. It's confusing if parallel terms are treated differently. --DanielRigal (talk) 04:19, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree and understand your confusion. I have the same opinion of yours. LIrala (talk) 04:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pregnant man

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Which is right? LIrala (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say that both should link to the same place and that should be Transgender pregnancy. The section in Male pregnancy deals with two largely theoretical matters before very briefly getting on to things that actually exist in the real world. It doesn't even link to Transgender pregnancy, which is the most likely topic that the reader is actually looking for. Transgender pregnancy is much more likely to give the reader what they want and expect. I guess the other target might be acceptable if that section was substantially improved and included a link to Transgender pregnancy but, as it stands, the first redirect sends readers off to a poorly written section that doesn't give them what they are most likely looking for. This is likely to confuse and frustrate them. --DanielRigal (talk) 20:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would duplicate it -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

学研プラス

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Non-Latin characters should not be used as article titles on Wikipedia languages with Latin alphabet, including the English one, even as redirect. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Clariniie Please read WP:FORRED. mwwv converse∫edits 15:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
per forred, redirects from other languages (regardless of what their funny scribbles look like) are fine... but only if the target has any strong affinity with said language. as an example of the type of redirect that should be deleted, meowth has a different name in portuguese (miau... which is literally just "meow"), but that doesn't mean an article on something from a japanese franchise should have this redirect. there's also the issue of brazil not being real, i guess
yes, by the way, this means keep cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oh wait nvm, that's "gakken plus", which isn't mentioned in the article (outside of a site that happens to be tucked in the references). delete as unmentioned cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Poe

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When searching for PoE without the proper capitalization (which I think is reasonable), you end up on the page Edgar Allan Poe Wiktorpyk (talk) 12:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Laws of Time Are Mine

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Delete. This was originally categorised as a meme, but the meme-related categories were removed as unjustified. The redirect is a quotation from a TV episode, which is noted at the fan wiki https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Waters_of_Mars_(TV_story) but not mentioned in the target Wikipedia article. Redirect's creator was blocked as a sock, and most of their other creations have been deleted. – Fayenatic London 12:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete brief mentions in sources but nothing really worth adding to the article. Doesn't appear to be too significant overall. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ascensorium

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results gave me "things that make you go up" in general, but mostly hiking equipment. mentioned in #terminology as a synonym for spiral stairs, but it seems the meaning has been changed cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:53, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Online search for me only shows stairs and latin/polish results. Ca talk to me! 01:06, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cremastra ‹ u — c › 12:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inflatable Squirrel Carcass

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Should be deleted as it is not mentioned in target and is orphaned. Previously an article for a talk show that was redirected due to lack of notability. MimirIsSmart (talk) 12:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Positive and negative test cases

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Doesn't seem specific to software testing, and the term is not described there. A better target may be test case, but it still might be a bit WP:XYish. Negative test is a disambiguation page; positive test redirects to Medical test#Positive or negative. Not sure what's best here. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC) Note this redirect is the result of a single line stub that was immediately redirected. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reading through False positives and false negatives, which discusses tests that can be falsely negative or falsely positive, they would be a form of Binary classification in general. I was thinking in a DAB, but these concepts are very similar to each other, except for the software tests, which also adds Stress testing (software), linked in the negative test dab. LIrala (talk) 23:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also Positive and negative predictive values. LIrala (talk) 23:10, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no clear target and little enough page views so that it wouldn't be a big issue to delete it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 09:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaotic Enby, Mdewman6, Mwwv, and Significa liberdade: WP:HEY: I just created Positive and negative (disambiguation). It could look a bit like a WP:COATRACK though I guess in some way that's how a dab works, but anything that isn't ambiguous can be removed from there. Note that Positive or negative test redirect exists. LIrala (talk) 03:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for making the dab, seems solid, but in terms of this redirect, it seems like something that should be listed their if a primary meaning can be identified, and not retargeted there as ambiguous. I would be okay with targeting test case which mentions both positive test case and negative test case (though the individual terms are not redirects). Otherwise, this should just be deleted. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lymbriciform

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won't argue that it's not a plausible spelling of lumbriciform, but shouldn't it be retargeted to lumbricidae? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:40, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should note while i'm at it that i'll create lumbriciform after this discussion is closed and if it's not closed as delete (for any reason not related to its plausibility as a tpyo) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:43, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:59, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Lumbriciform" is a descriptor for a general shape (which is, well, worm-shaped) rather than a scientific classification, so targeting it to "worm" makes more sense here. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the current and proposed targets.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:44, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYKO

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Delete or Keep Not mentioned at the target. 120.29.79.37 (talk) 07:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

was gonna say "delete per nom", but i'm pretty sure proxies count in sockstrike, so... delete per meeeeeee~
see also the edit history and this afd discussion cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spore game space phase

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For a redirect created all the way back in 2009, the title I can't agree with; Shouldn't it be "Spore space stage?" Also the category assigned to this redirect makes absolutely no sense, I played this game and didn't have online multiplayer. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:35, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – old redirect, not an egregiously implausible search term, and with an unambiguous target. If you want to create Spore space stage, you can do that regardless of whether this redirect exists. I agree that the category should be removed. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete as downright clunky. this reads less like something you'd expect on wikipedia and more like a pile of tags in a booru. no opinion on creating spore space stage, or similar redirects for all the other stages cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Have no clue why thus exists either. This0k (talk) 00:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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