Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 20

February 20

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 20, 2021.

Thrall-Noldorin

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thrall-Noldorin → Noldor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not included. Hildeoc (talk) 23:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; it is non-canonical (i.e. not Tolkien but derived sources). It is not impossible it could become notable if it gets enough game and TV mentions. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Chiswick Chap - we have no content about this at the moment. Thrall-Ñoldorin should be deleted as well. Hog Farm _Talk 16:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Holy shit, something really fucked up happened

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Holy shit, something really fucked up happened → Wikipedia:Goings-on (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not sure how this is related to the target. No backlinks in 15 years. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Straightforward. The redirect is very inaccurate and is also an implausible search term. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:31, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but mark as historical or hoax. If this weren't so old I'd say "delete - straightforward" but in some ways it's like a long-lasting hoax. If this had been a similarly useless-but-funny-and-historical link in mainspace, I'd say move it to the Wikipedia: namespace, like we do some ancient hoaxes upon discovery. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete per NK1406. 🐔 Chicdat ^{Bawk to me!} 11:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning delete - While there are several places this would be funny to redirect to, I'm not seeing a compelling use that this really seems to accomplish anything. No live backlinks, and pageviews suggest there aren't really any links anywhere, in old revisions or out on the web or otherwise. As of now, this is just clutter in the search bar. Hog Farm _Talk 22:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Talcum X

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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted by User:Bishonen. (non-admin closure) Paul_012 (talk) 15:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talcum X → Shaun King (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This should be deleted. It appears to be an uncommon derogatory nickname for King that is not referenced in the article at all. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:21, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree that the nickname is derogatory and I was unable to locate any reliable sources that referred to King by this name. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:46, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G10. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedied. Bishonen | tålk 18:39, 23 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Delete, but not speedily (redirects don't have to be neutral): plenty of uses online for this nickname, but it's still not significant enough to be mentioned in the article; without such a mention, this redirect is useless. – Uanfala (talk) 18:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ôzaru

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 01:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ôzaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Oozaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] Added. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ozaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] Added. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Golden Oozaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] Added. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with Dragon Ball. 122.61.73.44 (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This might not be the best target—it is mentioned at several Dragon Ball articles—but the nominator clearly has not done their research. Oozaru is the Japanese name for the Great Ape that Saiyans, including Goku, in Dragon Ball can transform into. Ô is just an alternate way of representing a long vowel (the "oo" in "Oozaru") in Japanese; Ō is more commonly used instead. Ss112 07:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete it and all the other iterations (Oozaru, Ozaru, Golden Oozaru). It is mentioned in several articles but there is no coverage of this specific topic, which has been the status quo for about 11 years. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:06, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Goku as mentioned there, and add a hatnote. Keeping it with Dragon Ball franchise article is also okay but may need an {{R without mention}} AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:31, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Xezbeth. Search results will have to do unless/until we can explain the term in a logical place. I'm not familiar with the franchise, but it sounds like AngusWOOF's suggestion would be like redirecting "lightsaber" to "Luke Skywalker". --BDD (talk) 15:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm not a fan of third relists, but the other redirects Xezbeth mentioned ought to be added to this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Oozaru was a 22kb article before being redirected in 2010. If the concern is a lack of coverage, (some of) this content could be restored in some form. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the redirect to Dragon Ball and oppose deletion of all other related terms. The nominator is incorrect about their assertion that it has nothing to do with Dragon Ball. The live action film Dragonball Evolution, though much aligned and deviates from the source material, has a character which is specifically named Ōzaru.Tavix is correct, this content could be expanded summary style if there is lack of coverage as the information is certainly verifiable. Haleth (talk) 04:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Trumparoo

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trumparoo → 2021 storming of the United States Capitol#Deaths and injuries (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is currently no mention of this website in the main body of the article. There is one reference that says "Founder of site Trumparoo among dead at Capitol", but I don't think that is enough of a connection to sustain a redirect to this target. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:55, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If the Trumparoo website ever becomes notable (doubtful, seeing as how it is now shut down) an article can be created for it. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:53, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom not notable at this point.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. WWGB (talk) 06:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, does not appear to be a useful redirect. Bishonen | tålk 18:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

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Indigenous American

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Native Americans. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indigenous American → Indigenous peoples of the Americas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Indigenous Americans → Indigenous peoples of the Americas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I think this should be disambiguated, as the term may refer to Native Americans in the United States more specifically and Indigenous peoples of the Americas more broadly Bangalamania (talk) 20:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We already have a disambiguation page at Native Americans that covers both of the above topics, among others. It may be an appropriate target. Whatever we decide here should apply to the redirect at Indigenous Americans, too. - Eureka Lott 00:32, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect it and Indigenous Americans to the disambiguation page Native Americans. oncamera _{(talk page)} 08:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note I've added Indigenous Americans to the nomination per the above comments. Thryduulf (talk) 12:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Divinium

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 28#Divinium

Zyz, Italy

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 28#Zyz, Italy

Drug ring

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Drug cartel. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drug ring → Financial crime (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. Retargeting to Drug cartel might be a bit more helpful. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Drug cartel or similar drug+organized-crime target. That, or to an article about drugs which have ring-shaped chemical structures . davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Drug cartel per davidwr, as the better option. Note though that this originally redirected to Organized crime. The current target is a bot error due to page-move vandalism(?) from 2019. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Office under the United States

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Office under the United States → Officer of the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Like the one I just nominated, not mentioned in article, unlikely alternate name. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is in fact mentioned in the lead, quoting a Justice Department opinion: "All offices under the United States and all officers of the United States are created and filled according to the Appointments Clause of the United States Constitution." The quote is a legally significant memo, so is correctly included in the article. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 18:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The terms have been ruled to be synonymous and are used completely interchangeably within the legal definition of officers, because only any person holding an office under the United States is by definition and officer of the United States, according to the Bradbury citation [3], "the Court’s conclusion in Buckley that the methods of appointment in the Appointments Clause are exclusive for anyone who can be said to hold an office under the United States was anticipated by a line of Attorney General opinions dating back to well before the Civil War. See, e.g., Appointment and Removal of Inspectors of Customs, 4 Op. Att’y Gen. 162, 164 (1843); see also Civil Service Comm’n, 13 Op. Att’y Gen. 516, 518 (1871) (Appointments Clause “must be construed as excluding all other modes of appointment” of executive and judicial officers). Moreover, the text of the Appointments Clause emphatically applies to “all” officers of the United States, unless their method of appointment is “otherwise provided for” in the Constitution. ^: 75

--199.46.249.141 (talk) 04:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Officer under the United States

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Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod → Super Furry Animals (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Eeeehhhhhhh This seems to be a misspelling of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllandysiliogogogoch, and should redirect there if kept, but I don't think it's any more likely than any random syllables appended to "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll", and this one even lacks a y in "pwllgwyngyll". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. although the band did release a record called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, this spelling does not appear in the article, and there is no reason to assume that it it a probable missspelling of the band's record title. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 16:53, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The name given in the band's article was incorrect. The song's title is "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod" (though it's given by the BBC source as "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod"). This redirect is still a typo of both, though. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, the spelling in the nominated redirect "Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod" appears to be a fairly common misspelling, reproduced by the BBC[1] ~~and the Guardian.[2]~~ --Paul_012 (talk) 17:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While the band's song is fully known as "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod", "Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod" is not a possible or likely search term. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as implausible misspelling. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sususs Amongus

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3. Thryduulf (talk) 17:02, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sususs Amongus → Valentinian II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Sussus Amongus → Valentinian II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not an alternate name for the subject of the target article, just a meme relating to the game Among Us that will be forgotten in a year or less. This adds nothing to the encyclopedia, so it should be deleted. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 16:06, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both. Non-notable meme, not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - absolutely no connection to the target beyond "memes lol". ƒirefly ( t · c ) 17:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both We’ve had a spate of Sussus Amongus meme vandalism recently and this is just more of the same. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Was going to say it sounds like a hoax, but evidently someone with more knowledge of memes beat me to it! P Aculeius (talk) 12:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per wp:g3 and wp:g5. Created by an account-hopping vandal who has done the same in Valentinian I already. Avilich (talk) 14:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Public organization

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Public sector. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Public organization → State agencies of Thailand#Public organizations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I created this redirect to State agencies of Thailand in 2015, as it is a specific legal term in Thailand, but upon reconsideration it's not specific enough in general usage. Proper uses are now linked to Public organization (Thailand), leaving incorrect incoming links. I'm not sure though what would be a better target. Organization? Public sector? Or should it just be deleted? Paul_012 (talk) 15:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Public sector would be a suitable target? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:42, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Public sector. This seems to be the most relevant article from my understanding of the terminology. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Brutality-killing

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brutality-killing → Violence (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unlikely search term due to the unnecessary hyphenation and broken English sentence structure. This redirect doesn not seem to be synonymous with it's target to me, if I were to search for this I'd expect to end up at something like Killing. A google search turns up a load of results related to Police brutality, but I don't think that's an appropriate target either. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Newly created, no incoming links from articles, confusing target. Possible targets might include homocide - but that is pretty broad, or murder - but some brutality killings might be called "acts of war" rather than "murder" per se, so best to delete. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:48, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Nobody's gonna search for this, and if they did, the target is a very uncomfortable fit. Bishonen | tålk 18:44, 23 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

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Wikilabs

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilabs → Wikimedia Foundation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This might be referring to WMF Labs, but seems to have additional meanings, including a Wikimedia project proposal and an IT solutions provider. Either retarget to Wikipedia:Wikimedia Cloud Services, where the other WMF Labs redirects point at, or delete as ambiguous. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as ambiguous; no good onwiki target. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ciley Myrus

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Wikimedia Toolserver

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Toolserver. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Toolserver → Wikimedia Foundation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Toolserver.org → Wikimedia Foundation#Software projects and other backstage projects (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Toolserver → Wikimedia Foundation#Software projects and other backstage projects (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This was retargeted to the mainspace article after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 April 27#Toolserver, but is not currently mentioned at the target. I suggest retargeting it back to Wikipedia:Toolserver, similarly to WMF Labs pointing at Wikipedia:Wikimedia Cloud Services (see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 10#WMF Labs). 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Matt Halprin

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Arne Klempert

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The result of the discussion was retarget to History of Wikipedia#Effect of biographical articles. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arne Klempert → Wikimedia Foundation#Board of Trustees (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. History of Wikipedia#Effect of biographical articles seems to be a viable target. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Astropath

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Astropath → Warhammer 40,000#Setting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Astropaths → Warhammer 40,000#Setting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Group of psychic communicators from the Warhammer 40,000 universe that aren't discussed at the target article. The article content in the page history ended up in Psyker, which was redirected in 2019 following an AfD nomination. They have a name drop in Rogue Trader (role-playing game)#Career paths but I don't think there's enough there to justify a redirect 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Uriel Ventris

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uriel Ventris → Warhammer 40,000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A Space Marine from the warhammer 40,000 universe that isn't mentioned anywhere in the encyclopaedia. There was an article here for about 20 days in 2010. If this is kept it might be better targeting Space Marine (Warhammer 40,000), but I don't see the value in pointing this to an article where this character is not mentioned. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Navis Nobilite

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Navis Nobilite → Warhammer 40,000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Navis Nobilitae → Warhammer 40,000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Faction of ship navigators from the warhammer 40,000 universe not mentioned in the target article or anywhere else in wikipedia. There was an article at Navis Nobilite for about 9 months in 2008 which was redirected due to having no third party sources and insufficent notability for a stand alone article 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:35, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Void shields

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Void shields → Warhammer 40,000#Void shields (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Non-notable fictional technology from the warhammer 40,000 universe not mentioned at the target article or anywhere else with relaton to 40K. The article content in the page history ended up in Equipment of the Imperium in Warhammer 40,000 which was deleted in 2011 following an AfD nomination. There are a few articles on force fields in fiction that might be suitable targets (e.g. Force field (fiction)) but they're not discussed in there by this name either 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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State farm

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S. Taylor (cricketer)

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

S. Taylor (cricketer) → Category:English cricketers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a useful XNR; a reader does not learn anything about the person from the list at the category. There is a mention at List of English cricketers (1841–1850)#T, so I suggest retargeting there. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 07:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget as suggested - this is the best target in this case, although he also appears on List of English cricketers (1851–1860) and List of English cricketers (1861–1863) - the later of which needs sorting out at some point. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as ambiguous; there are a number of far more prominent cricketers named S. Taylor, like Sarah Taylor and Stafanie Taylor. I can't find an appropriate target besides the search page. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 03:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as ambiguous. Stuart Taylor (Stuart Taylor (cricketer)), S Taylor, Sarah Taylor (Sarah Taylor (cricketer)) and Stanley Taylor (Stanley Taylor (cricketer)) all pass WP:NCRICKET. Narky Blert (talk) 18:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure retargeting was needed. I agree as the nominator that the redirect is quite ambiguous. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:30, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I meant relisting... 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The other alternative would be disambiguation, but in this case that could get rather messy, so it is probably best to delete. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 23:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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List of former United States presidents who ran for office after leaving the presidency

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Fordmil Meansbad

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of LazyTown episodes#ep27. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fordmil Meansbad → LazyTown (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target. Dominicmgm (talk) 23:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of LazyTown episodes#ep27 where it is mentioned (either spelling – Fordmil/Fordmill – is correct or at least plausible). — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 00:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Annam Tower

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The result of the discussion was no consensus but as nobody argued in favour of the status quo, defaulting to keep would not be in the best interests of the encyclopaedia, so I will default to retarget as the softer option. Thryduulf (talk) 22:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Annam Tower → Annam (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

While Annam was an old name of Vietnam, there is no such thing as Annam Tower. This should be deleted. Greenknight dv (talk) 04:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Colonial exhibition. There was a "Annam Tower" in the 1906 exhibition in France, but we don't have an article on that specific event yet, so retarget to the list article where it's pictured. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 09:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great point! Marseille colonial exhibition (1906) could be good target too if this article is created. Greenknight dv (talk) 04:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder whether it's an alternative name for Four_Great_Treasures_of_Annam#Bao_Thien_Tower? PamD 10:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be fine if there is any source calls Báo Thiên Tower "Annam Tower" or "Tháp An Nam". Otherwise, we couldn't be sure. Greenknight dv (talk) 04:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As far as I can tell, the tower depicted at File:Expo coloniale 1906.jpg is not actually called "Annam Tower". The French description says "la tour de l'Annam" – it isn't capitalized, implying it's just a generic Annam tower, not a specific tower called "Annam Tower". References to an "Annam Tower" are probably a result of WP:CITOGENESIS; all mentions of the tower that I've found on Google come from the Wikipedia redirect or from the description of the aforementioned image on Commons, meaning that no one will come to Wikipedia looking for an article on "Annam Tower". The redirect should be deleted, even if an article on the Marseille colonial exhibition is created. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have now changed the file's description on Commons to say "Annam tower" instead of "Annam Tower", in line with the original French description. I also want add that the redirect should not be retargeted to Four_Great_Treasures_of_Annam#Bao_Thien_Tower, as proposed by PamD, unless a source can be found where the Bao Thien Tower is referred to as the Annam Tower. --Un assiolo (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget per IP. French does not usually capitalise generic parts of proper names, and no inference can be drawn from failure to do so. La Tour d'Annam would look weird. To pick a really obvious example, la tour Eiffel in French WP. Narky Blert (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough, but this still doesn't establish the notability of the Annam tower. It was just one of many exhibits at this colonial exhibition (see for example the Cambodian pavilion and the Laos pavilion mentioned at fr:Exposition coloniale de Marseille (1906)). These exhibits are not notable enough even for a redirect. They are highly implausible search terms. It would be like having redirects for every booth and every event at a trade fair. --Un assiolo (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, until or unless an article for the 1906 exhibition is created and the tower is discussed therein. Sure, the tower is mentioned in the suggested target, but it's a bit too obscure since it's only in a caption of an image. I'm also concerned that the suggested target is too broad, so any actual discussion of the tower would be undue weight. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:32, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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J. Barker

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Barker (surname)#D–K. There's a strong consensus against the current cross-namespace redirect. Beyond that, there is a fairly even split between deleting and redirecting to this relevant but nonspecific disambiguation page - we shall default to retargeting in the absence of a particular argument that the search results would be preferable, as it may help some readers, though there is no particular strong feeling either way. ~ mazca ^talk 23:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

J. Barker → Category:North v South cricketers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a useful XNR; a reader does not learn anything about the person from the list at the category. Does not seem to have a mention on Wikipedia. Delete to encourage article creation, unless an appropriate target can be found. Per the backlinks, this also seems to be ambiguous with a painter. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 08:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There's no use of a redirect to a category.Less Unless (talk) 16:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak retarget to Barker (surname)#D–K, where there are five J. Barkers mentioned, plus four disambiguation pages with many more. Although none of them seem to be cricketers, this is still better than redirecting to a category where there's just a circular link. Then again, there may or may not be a primary topic for that term... Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 05:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget or separately disambiguate. It would be particularly useful to have a separate disambiguation page at this title if there are multiple people primarily known as "J. Barker", or if there are people whose given name would abbreviate to "J. Barker" but who go by a middle name or otherwise might not show up at Barker (surname) as starting with a J. BD2412 T 16:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (without prejudice against redirecting to a notable person known as "J. Barker" or disambiguating). If there is evidence of multiple people who are primarily known as "J. Barker", a separate disambiguation page should be created to distinguish against people with surname Barker who happen to have a first name starting with J, but do not use "J. Barker" in any context. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:24, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to the existing disambiguation page without prejudice to creating a separate one. Readers will be better helped by the disambiguation page than by search results. Thryduulf (talk) 22:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Omegalul

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Omegalul → LOL#Variants (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've added a mention. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 18:47, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; the mention might be undue weight but that's not for RfD to decide. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 21:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, it would be WP:UNDUE to put on the "LOL" page since it is an emote limited to a single service (and unofficially, at that). Since it's not an official emote, it couldn't be located on the Twitch page either._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I don't understand Zxcvbnm's point. We have what is definitely a "variant" documented in a reliable source. The Kotaku article even mentions that "omegalul has now similarly entered common usage". As far as I'm concerned, people use it and it's sourced, so it should stay. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with J947 that as long as the mention is in the target article the redirect should stay. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 23:05, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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