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June 11

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 11, 2020.

True Jedi

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga. signed, Rosguill talk 01:05, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

True Jedi is the amount of studs you have to collect in the Lego Star Wars game level, and is not mentioned in Lego Star Wars. Not sure whether to delete or retarget to the games, but do not retarget to Lego Star Wars: The Video Game, the stud meter was not called True Jedi at the time. OcelotCreeper (talk) 15:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:MIXEDCAPS

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 01:05, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This should probably point somewhere else. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete without prejudice against immediate recreation as a valid shortcut to a target that has something to do with mixed case. In general, shortcuts are ambiguous; it's impossible to make a shortcut name completely unambiguous in every case. Hatnotes can be placed at the target if desired, but ambiguity by itself does not block the existence of a shortcut. However, the target should be tagged with {{shortcut}} and should in some way relate to the name of the shortcut. --NYKevin 20:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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!vote

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Negation#Programming language and ordinary language. signed, Rosguill talk 01:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

THis has a different target than WP:!VOTE. However, I think it's better to delete this XNR to avoid confusion of normal readers, as this starts with a regular exclamation point. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Characters in Lego Star Wars

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Po-town

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:18, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, an internet search returned results about a location in Pokemon Sun and Moon, but our article about that subject doesn't mention it. I wasn't able to find any sources referring to Poughkeepsie by this name. I would suggest deletion unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:02, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/poughkeepsie_po_town_nickname
  2. ^ https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/life/2019/10/31/actor-kevin-makely-recalls-poughkeepsie-roots-enroute-hollywood/2494817001/
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WWF Old Pay Per Views

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The result of the discussion was deleted by Rosguill (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:44, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did not mention the target. The redirect was created in 2007 and did not retargeted in 13 years. I suggest retarget it to List of WWE pay-per-view and WWE Network events, the better target for the list of all WWE PPVs. 2600:6C4E:580:A:B8D5:1392:EB27:E9D8 (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of WWE pay-per-view and WWE Network events: more likely search term. JTP (talk • contribs) 17:54, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It serves zero purpose. In the history of the page (until it was listed here) the page only was view more than once on one occasion. What does "old" mean here, not a term that is ever used in defining this, so its just random. Plus the correct spelling is "pay-per-view" so its got the typo spelling too. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 19:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Government transparency

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Defeat of Nazi Germany

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 12:26, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  20:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah nevermind, though you could have added it to the "Defeat of Nazi Germany redirects" nomination. I still believe it should be kept as it is, per Buidhe's rationale. Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Defeat of Germany redirects

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The result of the discussion was speedy retarget to German Instrument of Surrender. (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 12:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know exactly what we should do, but the status quo cannot stand.

We have many similar redirects targeting at least three different targets, all in some way related to the defeat of Nazi Germany. This is confusing and either retargeting, deletion, or something else should occur to fix this predicament.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  20:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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𝔸

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Blackboard bold#Usage. (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 19:40, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, I can't find any indication that this character unambiguously refers to algebraic numbers (although it doesn't help that Google Scholar interprets this character as a normal A when searching). Delete unless a justification or a more appropriate target can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Autopatrolled

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 18:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect, these are highly discouraged. If this had links, I wouldn't advocate deleting, but whatlinkshere states that it is linked only on exactly on userpage. This redirected is of a discouraged type, and deleting would not have harmful effects. Hog Farm (talk) 18:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. This is one of the exceptions to the general discouragement for these cross-namespace redirects because it is helpful for very new users who aren't yet familiar with the concept of namespaces. This is not a term that is used in any context outside of MediaWiki that I can find, so anyone searching for it is going to be looking for this target and there is no danger of confusion with any encyclopaedic content (if there was there would be an uncontroversial self-ref hatnote). The page view stats show that it is a well-used redirect with 10-30 hits each month this year and over 200 hits last year. Deletion would accordingly making things harder for new users without any significant benefit at all. Thryduulf (talk) 21:20, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:R#KEEP#5. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 12:12, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I doubt that a "very new user" have knowledge about autopatrol while not knowing how to use namespaces. If they knew about autopatrol, a jargon very unlikely to be known by a newbie, they surely also know how to use namespaces. I have no opinion whether to delete this or keep, both of which are harmless in my opinion. Pandakekok9 (talk) 09:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Bernabe Buscayno

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. This is not the correct venue for requesting page moves; see RM. (non-admin closure) — J947 [cont] 19:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These redirects look inverted to me, just based on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). I'd concede that there seems to be roughly equal coverage for both this nick name and the real name, Bernabe Buscayno. But nothing to disproportionately say that his real name is superceded, which is usually the naming convention in Wikipedia. Jontesta (talk) 17:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Parque de María Luisa (park)

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. It is WP:SNOWing. (non-admin closure) Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 04:53, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Superfluous redirect with awkward lemma. No backlinks. Hildeoc (talk) 16:47, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Content provider

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 17:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notwithstanding that this has been stable since 2007, I don't think the article describes what is now known as a "content provider". It may be better if we delete as ambiguous and allow uninhibited Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's telco industry jargon, but it remains in use: [2]. The line between telcos and the Internet has indeed blurred (is Google a "content provider"?), but then the page should be updated or turned into a redirect, not deleted entirely. Jpatokal (talk) 01:55, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per above, in agreement. --Xannir (talk) 13:06, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Engliſh

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 00:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing links to this, and that character doesn't exist on any normal keyboard, so unlikely anyone would search for Engliſh rather than English. If you know what ſ means, then you'll know how to spell English Joseph2302 (ftalk) 09:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete. The term is a valid one and has been used before, but is anyone today actually going to go out of their way to type "ſ" using a different keyboard layout? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:36, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Long s per WP:LEAST. If someone searches this word, it is probable that he/she has found this spelling somewhere and copied it in the search box. It is likely that he/she is looking for the explanation of this spelling rather than searching for "English". If he/she is really searching for "English", the explanation found in Long s will give them the indication for getting the searched article. D.Lazard (talk) 16:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would strongly oppose a retarget there. Someone searching "Engliſh" would be wanting English, of which "Engliſh" is a valid (but archaic) spelling. If someone specifically wanted to know about the long s, they can copy and paste that specific letter—which is exactly how it would work for any other letter that may look weird. For example, I would seriously hope no one would consider retargeting façade to Ç or naïvety to Ï. Someone would search "façade" because they want to learn about facades, not about the c-cedilla. -- Tavix (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Your analogy doesn't work. Long s, as you said is archaic and no longer used practically in this age. Ç in façade and Ï in naïvety are still used practically, so it's more likely that average user (especially those who don't use English as their first language) will search with those letters than long s. And unlike long s, you cannot turn, for example, coconut into çoçonut, so WP:PANDORA won't apply to those letters, but it does apply to long s, because you can turn every s that is not the last letter to ſ. Pandakekok9 (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PANDORA is misleading nonsense at best. Every redirect is evaluated on its own merits, and if it is useful it is created/kept and if it is not it is deleted (or not created in the first place), this is regardless of what or how many similar redirects do or do not exist. While theoretically any non-final "s" could be replaced with "ſ" in practice there are a finite number of terms including it that are actually used to search for information on the English Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Long s in Wikipedia's search box will automatically convert it into normal s. However, it doesn't get converted when put in the browser's address bar, so your argument is valid. Pandakekok9 (talk) 01:20, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle of Horain

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:18, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, or anywhere else on Wikipedia as far as I can tell. I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bag of holding

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L2 norm

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Yugoslawia

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Federation of Jewish Communities in the Czech Republic

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The result of the discussion was Speedy as sockpuppet creation. (non-admin closure) buidhe 09:24, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unhelpful redirect as there is nothing about the organization in the target article. Delete to encourage article creation. buidhe 09:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Holocaust restitution

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The result of the discussion was delete in order to encourage article creation signed, Rosguill talk 00:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirect that leads a reader to expect an overview article of the many forms of restitution, such as return of Aryanized property, forced labor settlements with private companies, etc., but instead redirects to a specific agreement. Should be deleted to encourage article creation. buidhe 06:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC) Added Holocaust reparations. Pandakekok9 (talk) 06:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed my vote above accordingly. Thanks. --Chefallen (talk) 21:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Twitter services and applications

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to the recently deleted redirect UberTwitter (RfD), these are redirects to a list article which does not contain any information about the subject of the redirect in question. Other mentions of these applications on Wikipedia, are just that - mentions - and don't represent a useful target, so these should just be deleted. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 05:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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History of Jupiter

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Terra (Planetry Science)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelling of "planetary science" in the disambiguator, delete. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Whole World

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. signed, Rosguill talk 00:49, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to World, as it means "everybody", according to Wiktionary. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 04:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC) Added Whole world to the RfD. Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:24, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dab This has a number of meanings, the target being not the only one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghinga7 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Tom Lane (Nissan)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target or anywhere else besides Thomas Lane (disambiguation); does not seem to meet WP:NBIO to be expanded into its own article. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Filipino communism

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Communism in the Philippines. (WP:SNOW closure). Thryduulf (talk) 10:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect suggests that all Filipinos who believe in National Democracy are automatically communists, or fronts for the communist party, even though it is not. This is dangerous as red-tagging is rampant in my country. I suggest retargeting to Communism in the Philippines or which ever is appropriate, as long as the new target doesn't suggest that progressives are communists. Pandakekok9 (talk) 03:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Carlos Burle

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unless there is an appropriate local page to retarget this to. Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful. Additionally, the plain soft redirect template is not used in the mainspace. Precedents: Mohamed Chabani|, Saint Michel Boulevard, Bonne Nuit les Petits, Kumagai Morikazu, and Éditions Fides. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 01:05, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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