Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 14

November 14

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Category:Kentucky women in equestrian field

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersection. Dual merge. Followup to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_4#Category:Kentucky_women_news_anchors Mason (talk) 23:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American male chess players

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The result of the discussion was: deleted, apparently out of process. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:24, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American male chess players, Category:German male chess players and others.

  • Propose deleting and restoring status quo as at 12 November 2023.
Materialscientist appears to have made a unilateral decision without consensus to overturn a long term practice on articles about chess players. He appears to believe that chess tournaments are usually segregated by gender, however this is not the case. While over 90% of competitive chess players are male, the vast majority of tournaments are open to all players. Examples of women competing alongside men in high level tournaments can be found as far back as 1929 and probably earlier. There are a few women only tournaments, but no men only tournaments; this form of positive discrimination is generally accepted by chess players. Some women prefer all woman tournaments, but these are relatively rare outside of Europe. Equally some women prefer to play against all comers, even if they're not so keen on the unwanted attention from male players. The main point is men's and women's competition is not truly segregated, and the status quo was preferable. The root of the unilateral non-consensus based decision can be found in this edit. If the decision stands, we have to go through thousands of articles about chess players just to add the intersection of gender and nationality, which seems like a total waste of time. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 20:52, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Science fiction location redirects

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Science fiction location redirects

Category:Doctor Who planets

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow (talk) 23:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 3 articles and 3 files in this category. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.— TAnthonyTalk 15:37, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional planets by type

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional planets. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are no other subcategories in the target but Category:Fictional planets by work. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Musicals set on fictional moons

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Musicals set in outer space and Category:Works set on fictional moons. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:30, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT (musical + set on a fictional moon) with one entry. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:53, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Imperium (Warhammer 40,000)

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Category:Imperium (Warhammer 40,000)

Category:Newsround presenters

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:British children's television presenters. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:25, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 13:39, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Blue Peter presenters

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:British children's television presenters. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:26, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 13:33, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Top Gear people

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:31, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Textbook WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 13:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Most of the media-business people have worked on other projects than Top Gear. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional spacecraft by work

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional spacecraft. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category layer with two subcategories. It is possible that it used to contain more, but those are now deleted. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional spaceplanes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional spacecraft. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A large share of fictional crewed spacecraft can be used in an atmosphere. WP:OVERLAPCAT. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional spacecraft by type

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Category:Fictional spacecraft by type

Category:Artificial wormholes in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fiction about wormholes. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Pretty much an arbitrary distinction in science fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 12:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fiction about brain-to-brain communication

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The result of the discussion was: delete. signed, Rosguill talk 23:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Near-synonymous category, differing only in the type of phlebotinum. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 12:33, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I should note that Brain-to-brain communication redirects to Brain–computer_interface#Synthetic telepathy. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 12:52, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Truss family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category for short-time British Prime Minister Liz Truss, her father John Truss and her husband Hugh O'Leary, plus 2 redirects (imho very challengeable) linking back to the Liz Truss article. I think that these articles would be better served by in-article links one to the other rather than a category (hint: they are already linked). Place Clichy (talk) 12:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional doomsday scenarios

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Apocalyptic fiction. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:40, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERLAPCAT - largely just an overlap, as apocalyptic fiction is about doomsday scenarios in fiction. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 12:23, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Most contents are not about scenarios. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:DC Comics weapons

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:DC Comics objects and Category:Fictional weapons. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:40, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: At its face, this is a 3-article category in one that isn't especially large, and where the objects in the subcategories are mostly not weapons. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 12:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Given names with negative perceived cultural associations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:43, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This recently created category seems to be entirely subjective and doesn't meet WP:NPOV, WP:DUE, WP:RS or satisfy WP:DEFINING. It has been added to articles without the article once mentioning any "negative perceived cultural association" (e.g., Brandon (given name)), where the perceived cultural association arises from the name being used as a villain in a film (e.g., Ursula (name)), or even where the name became more popular after being used as the name of a protagonist in a film (e.g. Samara (given name)). Ultimately, though, pretty much every name could be in the category, because I can probably find you a villain, criminal, or "negative perceived cultural association" for every name - real world or fictional - except for newly-invented Tragedeigh names: James - James Bond, regarded as a sociopath and misogynist by many. John - Long John Silver, notorious pirate. Mary - Typhoid Mary. And so on... BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The names included in the character are those with reliable references that list them as having “negative perceived cultural references” and some sources do indeed list them as a group. The association was negative enough that it was written about. It’s not a list of names that you or I personally dislike. I haven’t found any sources that list Mary as a name with perceived negative associations. I think it is notable but go to it if you disagree. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 12:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional ghost ships

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional ships. No prejudice against recreation if it can be populated in the future. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:44, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only one category member left. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 11:59, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge without prejudice to recreation. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional aircraft carriers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. signed, Rosguill talk 23:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only two articles, failing WP:NARROWCAT. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:42, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fictional naval ships

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The result of the discussion was: merge all as nominated, without prejudice against recreation if they can be populated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT; we don't need to diffuse this category. Only one article in each. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports families by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: rename all as nominated. A couple of notes:
  1. The general principle (which received unanimous support) is renaming "Sports families of XYZ" to "XYZ sports families". Category:Sports families of India was not listed in the nomination, but given it was mentioned in this discussion, tagged with a pointer to this CfD, and would qualify for C2C, I am IARing and including it in this close.
  2. Category:Russian sports families by sport / Category:Russian sports families is currently empty, but it can also be populated as Fayenatic London suggested. I will be doing this one manually to ensure it gets populated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:00, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Families by nationality. – Fayenatic London 11:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete After Category:Russian combat sports families is merged, there will be nothing left. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:29, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This comment was premature. When I started the nomination I did leave a note in all-caps, "More to be added." – Fayenatic London 13:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What happened to Russia? –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reinstated after being lost in edit conflict. – Fayenatic London 13:46, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:G.I. Joe vehicles

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Fictional military vehicles and Category:G.I. Joe without prejudice against recreation if it can be populated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one standalone article (Thunder Machine (G.I. Joe)) and one list (List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero playsets and vehicles). –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:23, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional ships by type

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional ships. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:19, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer within Category:Fictional ships, which has only one other immediate subcategory. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, the other subcategory Category:Novels set on ships doesn't belong and is now gone. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional seaplanes

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Fictional aircraft and Category:Fictional ships. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:20, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One article and two redirects, failing WP:NARROWCAT. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Star Trek vehicles

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 29#Category:Star Trek vehicles

Category:Transformers: Super-God Masterforce character redirects to lists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Transformers character redirects to lists. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:20, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Four-page category within a larger one that doesn't have any other diffusion. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional rings (jewellery)

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional gemstones and jewelry. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary subcategory with 2 subcategories, 3 articles, and 1 redirect; one subcategory is already in the target, as is one of the articles. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:08, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional musical instruments

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional objects. signed, Rosguill talk 23:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No longer necessary as a subcat, as List of fictional musical instruments is gone and there are only two articles left. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:03, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional objects by type

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional objects. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary intermediate layer. Note that some members are already within Category:Fictional technology, which itself is not here. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 10:59, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Per nom, unnecessary layer of overlap.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 11:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Deliquescent substances

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Category:Deliquescent substances

Category:Fictional merchants

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fictional salespeople. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT. A+B categories do not need to be made for every single category that has two or more parent categories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 09:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Near-duplicate in scope; contains only two subcategories. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 10:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nomination. JDDJS (talk to mesee what I've done) 16:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional market stallholders

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Category:Fictional market stallholders

Category:Fictional junk dealers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional shopkeepers. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:22, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT - the category has only a few members and in some cases, "junk" might be subjective. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 09:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Not enough contents to stand on its own; no real-world equivalent. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 10:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Paintings of black people

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Category:Paintings of black people

Category:Britain's German allies during the American Revolution

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 29#Category:Britain's German allies during the American Revolution

Category:Soldiers of New Hampshire

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. No other state has a soldier category. Mason (talk) 01:49, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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