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The result was redirect to List of Superman enemies. (non-admin closure) Ambrosiawater (talk) 15:58, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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This article fails WP:GNG. Coverage is limited to trivial mention in junk listicles. The only notable character to use the name has an article. The rest seem to be minor characters without any notability. I don't think there's anything to salvage from this convoluted mess of an article. TTN (talk) 12:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 12:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 12:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep There are obvious alternatives to deletion such as merger with Kryptonite, List of Superman enemies, &c. As the topic is covered in numerous sources, such as the DC Comics Encyclopedia; The Ages of Superman; In Search of Reality; and The Supervillain Book, it is best to retain the current page and improve it per WP:ATD, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 14:06, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Please post an example of the supposed coverage in those sources and explain how they qualify as significant coverage on the topic. TTN (talk) 14:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Andrew Davidson, Those sources have been shown, again and again, to be just plot summaries, and are also usually not independent (being licensed and published by the same companies that own the primary sources). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per @Andrew Davidson: or merge with List of minor DC Comics characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Comment:Can anyone verify the claim above that significant printed coverage exists? Web sources are largely non-existent. Darkknight2149 04:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)- 'Delete. No reception/signfificance section. Fails GNG. Ping me if this changes so I can reconsider my vote. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to List of Superman enemies, until the nominator can be demonstrated to be wrong. Avilich (talk) 16:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to List of Superman enemies - I'm not expecting it, but if Andrew Davidson (or someone else) can substantiate the existence of substantial printed coverage, I will consider changing my vote. Darkknight2149 08:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Superman enemies as a redirect is a better option than deletion, and the list of villains page is the obvious choice. Rhino131 (talk) 11:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Leaning towards redirect but happy to be convinced otherwise.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Leaning towards redirect but happy to be convinced otherwise.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Superman enemies - Given the current sources, Redirecting to the list where he is already covered would be the best option. Rorshacma (talk) 05:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Superman enemies per all as most of the info can be found there. Peneplavím (talk) 16:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.