Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alcohol and sex

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Nomination withdrawn. To tell the truth, I didn't think this could have been turned into a good article. The original material seems incredibly researchy, but the work of the article-rescue squad is admirable. (non-admin closure) KuroiShiroi (contribs) 20:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alcohol and sex

PROD removed as if this isn't WP:OR. This seems to be someone's school essay. See already deleted Sex and aging, Sex and music. KuroiShiroi (contribs) 01:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Pure original research LetsdrinkTea 02:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see how an article with 4 reliable-source references is "pure OR". Yes, there was some OR in the article (which I have now removed), but there was also useful work that should be kept. JulesH (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom - article has a large multitude of issues in addition to being someone's original research essay. - Fastily (talk) 02:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- What other issues do you see with it? I've fixed the essay-style tone, and removed the original research. JulesH (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet another personal essay. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 03:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see how WP:NOTWEBHOST applies here; this is not somebody's personal page about themselves or their own projects, but an article on a valid encyclopedia topic. JulesH (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per WP:OR. South Bay (talk) 04:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Original research, and a personal essay. Them From Space 05:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This does actually sound like a fairly reasonable topic for an encyclopedia article - there's definitely been plenty of research on the effects of alcohol on sexual behaviour. However, this particular article very much reads like an essay and does not provide a very encyclopedic discussion; it has huge WP:OR problem. No prejudice against an encyclopedic article being created, but this is not it. ~ mazca ^t|c 12:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've deleted the OR, and the section on Date Rape which was the major problem with it reading like an essay; could you take a look at it again and let me know if you think there are still any problems with it? JulesH (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Nicely done, good to see a lot of it was salvageable. Looks like a good start to an article. Keep. ~ mazca ^t|c 13:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A valid topic for an encyclopedia, and an article that provides a basis to work from. The article has 4 references that are used to back up perfectly valid background information about the subject. Yes, there's some POV and OR that needs to be trimmed, but per WP:DELETION we should fix this article, rather than deleting it. JulesH (talk) 13:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I have removed from the article a chunk of content that seemed inappropriate, and rephrased the remainder. I don't feel the article reflects original research or reads like an essay any longer. JulesH (talk) 13:11, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
delete - OR--Scott Mac (Doc) 13:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete, poorly written essay containing original research. Deletion Mutation 15:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC) N.B. !vaote of sockpuppet of blocked user struck through. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not so fast, batman. JulesH's edits have improved this article somewhat and it's worth a second look, at least.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 21:01, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. -- —G716 <^T·_C> 21:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep notable topic that is constantly in the news. Comes up often enough to merit its own page. JJL (talk) 00:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Alcoholic beverage, though it may not even be necessary to redirect. I fail to see how this couldn't be added as a section there, if not simply added subtley across the 2 of the 3 relatable sections (which appear in succession), Alcoholic beverage: Alcohol consumption and health, Alcoholic beverage: Alcohol expectations, and Alcoholic beverage: Alcohol and religion, unless we're also proposing those sections be expanded in additional articles with more research? The thing is: I don't see anything "wrong" with this article, it just seems more like something that you'd be reading as a section (or two) in a larger profile article than as an independent article. But maybe I'm crazy? --EnhancedDownloadBird ^(Upload) - 05:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a major topic for which there are thousands of sources. Deletion will not improve this article which should be developed per our editing policy. Colonel Warden (talk) 12:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, well-known phenomenon. I think someone once said "It provokes the desire but takes away the performance". RenegadeMonster (talk) 13:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, many sources deal with the effects of alcohol on human sexual physiology and behavior. This is a phenomenon with great importance in modifying sexual risk-taking. Tim Vickers (talk) 18:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.