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Re: WWE Brand Extension and WWE Draft

Well for one, try not having the same repetitive information on both articles. The Brand Extension article should specifically only be talking about the brand extension. Add detailed information like what led up to it and what has resulted from it. The Draft article should only address the drafts and nothing else.-- bulletproof ^3:16 17:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Nah, I'll archive it. Thanks though. Anyway, I'll take a look at the pages. -- bulletproof ^3:16 18:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

RE: Truco here

Looks quite good. I've made a minor edit on te Brand Extension page. Other than that, looks good. The Chronic 17:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about a infobox as in a Template:Infobox Television like at the top of the RAW, SD!, ECW and iMPACT! pages. If you're talking about that, I wouldn't recommend that. The Draft occurs too rarely for that. The Chronic 18:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, which signature do you prefer: my current one ( The Chronic ) or this one ( 慢性 )? The Chronic 21:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It's Chinese for "the chronic". I found that on an online English-Chinese translator, since I don't actually know any Chinese. The Chronic 21:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh well. Say, what's your opinion on the newsletter? The Chronic 21:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you want your name on the newsletter, feel free to contribute to next week's newsletter. The newsroom is locatedright here. The Chronic 21:27, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

RE: Vengeance: Night of Champions article

No, the article looks somewhat far from B class status. The "background" section needs to be expanded (especially with background for the other matches). The "aftermath" section should be more about the reception of the PPV rather than the storylines that came after it. The "event" section is fine. Maybe several more sources would improve it so. The Chronic 18:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I can only help you with the sources. I can't do much with the "events" section, since I didn't watch it (the only PPV's I've seen are Vengeance, Great American Bash , and TNA Victory Road). The Chronic 18:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

RE: New Year's Revolution (2007) article

I don't understand the suggestion you made on the referencing. Aren't I specifying every detail? Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 00:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Please do not take this the wrong way, as I do not want to form disputes or discussions; and I think you are a great editor and an amazing Wikipedian

1. On posting more than 4 feuds in the Background section...

• On WPT:PW, Davnel told you that 2-4 feuds should only be described, however I find it necessary to post all the feuds. It would be iconsistent to describe some feuds and not others. With all due respect, we should not force a minimum quantity of information that can be posted in the article [if it is all notable]. I find that all of the background depictings of the feuds are all notable, as these particular feuds surpassed others from the show. Also, there has not been a consensus which says that only 2-4 feuds may be used; and i don't believe will never exist in any form, as it will go against WP:IGNORE, which states that "If a rule (like WP:CONS) prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.

1. On referencing

• I have used the exact template, so I have absoulutely no idea what you were suggesting. Please explain. Actually, your template needs information, which would be the Access date.

1. On a side note,

• do not take this the wrong way, but I do not look down to me as if I were a rookie, as I have been a Wikipedian for almost a year before you, and don't appreciate someone talking to me like if I do not know what I am doing.

• • Again, because I have a problem with the way I depict my thoughts, you may think I am forming a dispute, which I am not. Sincerely, Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 04:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I never like to judge people by experience, but judge them by wikifriendship. And I appreciate the help, but when I reffered that I used the exact template, I was talking about my sandbox. I am literally using the exact template, except you aren't using access date. However, in the NYR07 article, is another story; so you may have been confusing the articles.

As for Cyber Sunday 2006, I have passed on the article to Davnel as he completely rewrote the whole article that I had initially written. And because of it, I respectfully just gave it to him. Cheers, Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 04:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

PS. I do not think I am more experienced, nor vice-versa. Let's look at it as two Wikipedians who have both contributed significantly to the encyclopedia, and are now joined in the cause to make Wikipedia a better source for information. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 04:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Good to find a fellow latino on here. Haven't really met anyone who was lation here on Wikipedia. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 05:11, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes I speak spanish. Yo vivo en Puerto Rico. Do you speak spanish? Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 17:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I really can't decide. There's Rey Mysterio, Samoa Joe, CM Punk, Hardy Boys, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, Randy Orton, Edge, Shane McMahon, John Morrison... they all are great wrestlers. How about you? Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 18:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I saw his return, but I kinda hate the fact that he hasn't done anything and is already in the title picture. Yet if he doesn't have ringrust, the match at the PPV is gonna be awesome. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 18:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Wrestlemania III which is currently nominated for GA and Cyber Sunday (2007). I used to do more contributions on wrestler bios though (Shelton Benjamin, Carly Colón, John Cena among others). Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 18:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Don't forget about the Spanish language Wikipedia They have a lot of pro-wrestling articles there too that you guys might want to consider editing or looking at..for a change of pace or whatever. Or not. Just thought I'd mention it. I wish I was bi-lingual! :) I know what a few words mean ...Yo vivo en Texas :P I'm so lame. Anyway... I'd be really interested to know how those articles stack up to the ones on English Wiki ..but I can't speak/read Spanish so I'd have no idea if they were good or not ..or better than ours or whatever:) Adiós, --Naha|^(talk) 18:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Thanksgiving

Thanks. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 16:28, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

The WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter Issue II — November 25, 2007

Project News Bobby Eaton has been elevated to Featured article status. Its nomination page can be viewed here. In Your House 1 is currently a Featured Article candidate. Its nomination page can be found here. IWGP World Heavyweight Championship and NWA World Women's Championship have been elevated to Featured list status. Their respective nomination pages can be viewed here and here. Melina Perez and One Night Stand (2006) have been elevated to Good article status. Amy Dumas, Briscoe Brothers, Don Kent (wrestler), Mickie James, Randy Orton, Royal Rumble (1994), and WrestleMania III are currently Good article candidates. Current Events Booker Huffman and Sharmell Sullivan-Huffman (known as Booker T and Sharmell, respectively) debuted in Total Nonstop Action Wrestling on November 11 2007 at the Genesis pay-per-view, nearly three weeks after being released from World Wrestling Entertainment. WWE released the video game WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 on November 13 2007. The game is available for the PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PSP, Xbox 360, Nintendo DS and Wii consoles. John Cena takes heat from CNN after an interview involving mentions of steroids. Christopher Irvine (known as Chris Jericho) returned to WWE after a two year hiatus, debuting on the November 19 2007 edition of RAW following months of speculation. Matt Hardy suffered from an inflamed appendix, rendering him unable to wrestle at Survivor Series and possibly for 8-10 weeks. Collaboration of the Week The monthly featured article collaboration for November 25 - December 1 is Triple H. Please help improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia professional wrestling related article. The next article for collaboration will be chosen on Sunday, December 2. Last week's collaboration of the week was History of professional wrestling. Cast your vote to select the collaboration for next week! — Nominate an article that could be greatly improved!

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List of Hardcore Champions

Great, it'd be a lot easier and better with someone else helping. YEAH! Cheers,Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 03:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

NWO-07

Suggest you nominate No Way Out (2007) for a Peer Review.

Nomination procedure

Anyone can request peer review. Users submitting new requests are encouraged to review an article from those already listed, and encourage reviewers by replying promptly and appreciatively to comments.

To add a nomination:

Place {{peerreview}} at the top of the article's talk page, creating a peer review notice to notify other editors of the review. Within the notice, click where instructed to open a new discussion page. Complete the new page as instructed. Remember to note the kind of comments/contributions you want, and/or the sections of the article you think need reviewing. Sign with four tildes (Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 04:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)) and save the new page. Edit this page here, pasting {{Wikipedia:Peer review/ARTICLE NAME}} at the top of the list of nominees. Consult the volunteers list for assistance.

Cheers, Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 04:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

PPV event tables

Hmm. Maybe give WWE/WCW/ECW/TNA their own tables, then put the rest into 1 table (since there aren't really that many). Let me know if you need help finding all of the other ones. TJ Spyke 23:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure whether we should give ROH their own table yet or include them with the others, they've only done 4 PPV's (and one of those won't air until January). They can be found here: Category:Ring of Honor shows. TJ Spyke 23:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Yep. TJ Spyke 23:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

First check the PPV articles themselves for sources (like Heroes of Wrestling has them). [1] is a good source for many events too. TJ Spyke 23:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the table does look pretty good to me. TJ Spyke 01:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

omition

why do you do [this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wrestling_Pay-Per-View_Events&curid=13162411&diff=175070007&oldid=175053319]?--Ajujmajuj 15:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: List of WWE Hardcore Champions

That's what I'm trying to do. You know, you could use some of the other FL champion lists and use those as a template for this one. That's what I've been doing. The Chronic 20:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll do that for you... right after I come back from watching the Civil War. :) The Chronic 20:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, I moved your talk page archive (User:Truco9311/Archive 1) over to User talk:Truco9311/Archive 1 for you, as that's how it's properly supposed to be placed (with the "User talk:" name instead of "User:"). The Chronic 20:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to find sources for the title changes. WWE only has results for Raw shows starting from 2005 and up, so that doesn't help at all. And knowing that the 24/7 rule had the title changing practically every week multiple times, sources aren't that easy to find. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 20:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:List of professional wrestling pay-per-view events

There is no point for this list to exist, with individual articles for the events from each promotion. However, if we can create seperate articles for more promotions, and make each of those FLs, then we can make the above article a Featured Topic. But, as a list, this article is not needed. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 21:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Nikki311 said exactly what I said above. And TJ Spyke just said 3 things:

1. You should rename the article
2. The WWE article is good, and the others are terrible.
3. Unactive is not a word.

Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 21:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Or make it something like List of professional wrestlers. The Chronic 21:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

That was humurous, but seriously, why not try to improve List of WWE pay-per-view events and all the others, and then focus into turining this article into a Featured Topic? Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 21:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, you're using Lords of Pain as a source for Raw results, which is completely unreliable. Yet, you can still cite the episode using the cite episode template. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 21:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

The WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter Issue III — December 2, 2007

Project News In Your House 1 is currently a Featured Article candidate. Its nomination page can be found here. IWGP World Tag Team Championship and WWE One Night Stand are currently Featured list candidates. Their respective nomination pages can be found here and here. An image of Triple H's ring entrance is currently a Featured picture candidate. Its nomination page can be found here. Amy Dumas, Briscoe Brothers, Don Kent (wrestler), Mickie James, Randy Orton, Royal Rumble (1994), and WrestleMania III are currently Good article candidates. New Year's Revolution (2007), No Way Out (2007), and SummerSlam (2007) have each been listed for peer review. Please review these articles and make suggestions for their improvement. Their respective peer reviews can be found here, here, and here. Current Events The Shawn Michaels Story: Heartbreak & Triumph, a WWE Home Video DVD of Shawn Michaels, was released on November 27 2007. According to her blog, WWE Diva Torrie Wilson will be taking a couple of weeks off to undergo physical therapy for back problems. Collaboration of the Week The Pro Wrestling Collaboration of the Week for December 2 - December 8 is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Please help to improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia professional wrestling related article. The next article for collaboration will be chosen on Sunday, December 9. Cast your vote to select the collaboration for next week! — Nominate an article that could be greatly improved!

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RE: Truco Here

I'm doin' pretty good. I can speak a little bit of Spanish. Can you speak Spanish? --  LAX  23:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Still No Way Out (2006), for now. You? --  LAX  23:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

That's cool. So what PPV are you going to work on after NWO '04? --  LAX  00:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking either Judgment Day (2006), WrestleMania 21, or WrestleMania 22. --  LAX  00:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds Good. What PPV do you think we should do? --  LAX  01:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I think Survivor Series would be a good one to do. --  LAX  02:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Alright, let's do it. --  LAX  02:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Did you, by any chance, watch the PPV (Survivor Series)? --  LAX  03:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Because I didn't and if neither of us had seen it, we wouldn't be able to expand the event section. --  LAX  03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I'd love it. --  LAX  03:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Well I have to go get some sleep, talk to you later. --  LAX  03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Well that got a little out of hand. --  LAX  00:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. And I must agree with D.M.N. (Davnel03) that she/he was being somewhat uncivil as of late. --  LAX  00:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Same here, I got school to deal with. But I'll try and find sources on my spare time. --  LAX  01:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Not yet. I'll probably watch it (in full) this weekend. So, who would you consider your Best friend on Wikipedia? --  LAX  01:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

No one in particular. I would consider You, ThinkBlue, The Chronic, Zenlax and The Hybrid all my best friends. --  LAX  01:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

United States. Specifically, I would like to keep that confidential. --  LAX  01:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

So do you currently live in Maryland or El Salvador? --  LAX  01:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

US. --  LAX  01:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Refs for Force One

Yeah, thanks. Kris 01:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and yes, I do. Kris 01:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Info really isn't the problem, I just need sources outside of their own website. And thanks. Kris 01:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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The Chronic presents...

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and is entitled to display this Service Badge.

You have been on Wikipedia for exactly three months now, and you've made over 1,000 edits. You now deserve this service badge. Feel free to display it on your userpage. Looks like you'll be on Wikipedia for quite some time. Keep up the good work! The Chronic 08:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Survivor Series (2007)

Since you're finally done with No Way Out (2004), you want to finally start working on Survivor Series (2007)? -- Cheers, LAX 05:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I didn't mean it like, besides, I haven't really started either. -- Cheers, LAX 15:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Probably the aftermath. Could you please work on the event section? I would, but like I said, I feel I have trouble with wording. -- Cheers, LAX 15:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll try and do whatever I feel I can in the event section. -- Cheers, LAX 15:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Alright Im gonna start right now, TrUcO9311 (talk) 15:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

BTW, Great job with the Kofi Kingston article. -- Cheers, LAX 15:36, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree and the site is reliable, but those are all personal opinions. -- Cheers, LAX 15:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

The WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter Issue IV — December 9, 2007

Project News In Your House 1 failed Featured Article nomination. Its nomination page can be viewed here. IWGP World Tag Team Championship and WWE One Night Stand are currently Featured list candidates. Their respective nomination pages can be found here and here. An image of Triple H's ring entrance failed Featured picture nomination. Its nomination page can be viewed here. Amy Dumas and Royal Rumble (1994) have been elevated to Good article status. Briscoe Brothers, Don Kent (wrestler), Mickie James, Randy Orton, and WrestleMania III are currently Good article candidates. Current Events WWE Monday Night Raw will celebrate its 15th year anniversary in a three-hour telecast on December 10 2007 on the USA Network. Brandon Silvestry (known as Senshi) has been released by Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. Collaboration of the Week The Pro Wrestling Collaboration of the Week for December 9 through December 15 is The Undertaker. Please help to improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia professional wrestling related article. The next article for collaboration will be chosen on Sunday, December 16. Cast your vote to select the collaboration for next week! — Nominate an article that could be greatly improved!

Member News Based on the members list, there are currently 295 members participating in WP:PW. On the calendar: Dec. 16 - WWE presents Armageddon Dec. 23 - Paulley's birthday Dec. 24 - Racer38's birthday Dec. 27 - Truco9311's birthday From the Editors If you have any feedback on the newsletter so far, or if you want to offer suggestions to help inprove the newsletter, then please let us know. Thanks. Contributors to this Issue: Alex Roggio (talk · contribs) LAX (talk · contribs) Save Us 229 (talk · contribs) The Chronic (talk · contribs) The Hybrid (talk · contribs) ThinkBlue (talk · contribs) Discussion • Suggestions • Feedback

Delivered: 17:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC) by MiszaBot (talk)

RE: No Way Out and PPV sourcing

I replied to your comment at WPT:PW, but I figured I'd post here, too. A good source for you to use is SLAM! Wrestling. They did a review of No Way Out 2004 that you can find here. Nikki311 17:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Backlash (2006)

I know. I really need some help right now. Do you think you can help? Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Your contributions would mean the world to me. Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Flags

I removed the flags per WP:MOSFLAG as I said in the edit summaries I wrote when I removed the flags. As for the Styles thing, I don't care, put whichever your heart desires.«»bd(^talk _stalk) 22:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Refs

It's going well. I am currently making a new layout for the page in tables on my sandbox. Keep up the good work. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 17:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Not really. We cant just make one section into tables and not another. And things are more organized when in a wikitable anyway. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 18:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

We'll work on those later. But listen, there is a section calle "OTHER ROLES" which is specifically backstage roles. However, the article is called "World Wrestling Entertainment Roster", not "World Wrestling Entertainment Employees".

So should we

a. get rid of them

b. make a seperate article for them

c. rename the article

Cheers, Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 18:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

That's just a distuptive editor who doesn't socialize in real life, so he must find a way to socialize over the internet. And because people don't like him, they don't have civilized conversations with him, which causes him to get mad and make an argument.... Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 18:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

If you are talking about me Alex: ROFL, Says the guy who is a huge Wiki user and talks about others behind their backs. From all the work you do here I'm sure my social life is much better than yours. All my argument is doing is stating my reasons for being against the change. You're attacking me worse here than I ever attacked you so who's the uncivilized one now? Doppy88 (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I did not attack you... If I would want to be uncivil to you, I would have insulted you on your talk page. Instead, I politely mocked you behind your back on Truco's private talk page which you have uncivilizedly invaded. :D Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 19:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Davnel03

Thanks for the 'heads up' on this - I left a message on User:D.M.N.'s talk page, and if this old account was compromised, I told him to contact me or leave a message on the admin noticeboard, and someone will block it. I'm also watching it right now, as it seems to be a vandalism-only acct. SkierRMH (talk) 21:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)