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Hartford Union Station

Hi again.

The sign in the infobox for Hartford Union Station is the incorrect style. The red stripe is supposed to be thinner and the text should be centered according to Google Maps photos.

Here is a link confirming this: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hartford+Union+Station/@41.7687601,-72.6822922,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNQsJKy1uRM1l-ExFSdH69BHYqzguAqSKRI79vd!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNQsJKy1uRM1l-ExFSdH69BHYqzguAqSKRI79vd%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i4608!8i3456!4m16!1m8!3m7!1s0x89e65366b8ee27f1:0x7937f6d67d7f7dbb!2sHartford+Union+Station!8m2!3d41.7688191!4d-72.6815714!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F1tff_jhx!3m6!1s0x89e65366b8ee27f1:0x7937f6d67d7f7dbb!8m2!3d41.7688191!4d-72.6815714!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F1tff_jhx?entry=ttu

Can you please make a new style reflecting the style of the signage at Hartford Union Station? Thanks again. Pedroperezhumberto (talk) 11:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Pedroperezhumberto: The infobox styles are meant to roughly replicate the actual signs; they don't have to be pixel-perfect. While it's a good idea to get the main details right (color of the text, stripe location, etc), I don't think slight differences in stripe width are worth replicating. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah alright.

It’s because it really did annoy me because they weren’t “accurate” to its real life counterpart. If you want it to stay as it is, then I’m fine with it. Pedroperezhumberto (talk) 06:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, just found out how to do it and just did it. It's up on the page right now. Pedroperezhumberto (talk) 12:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Your recent four redirects

Hi can you please open a discussion on all four of the page you redirected before actually deleting them? It's not right to just redirect them on a whim without appropriate concensus. I've reverted until a discussion on each is undertaken. Please don't redirect until appropriate discussions have taken place. Thanks DragonofBatley (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

These are in regards to the county Durham stations I created pages for. Thanks DragonofBatley (talk) 19:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

find the discussion here: [1] DragonofBatley (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@DragonofBatley: As I said on your talk page, you need to read and digest the notability policy. All of the station articles you are creating fail the notability requirements, which means you should not create them. As an experienced editor, you should know better.

Boldly redirecting is an accepted alternative to deletion. I will now file AfDs per process. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I do know how to make articles so please don't be so disrespectful. I also have added further sources with books which are key to many articles. But see what's discussed and agreed. DragonofBatley (talk) 20:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@DragonofBatley: Adding numerous sources with trivial mentions of the subject does not establish notability - see WP:REFBOMB. If there is not significant coverage of a subject, it's better to add information to a broader article (in these cases, the railway line) rather than trying to prop up a tiny article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

DOT State of the Art Car Postcard

Hi! I was looking at your upload of the DOT SOAC postcard at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:State_Of_the_Art_Car_postcard.jpg -- this is a really cool postcard and I appreciate your committment to uploading interesting stuff about transit. I was wondering if you had a higher quality scan available, ie in a higher DPI and as a PNG or lossless TIFF image or similar; or if you knew where to find one. Thanks! Transitdragon (talk) 14:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Transitdragon: Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! That scan was from eBay, which unfortunately scales images to 1600 pixels wide. I just found a slightly better scan (1700px with better colors) that is now up on that same file page, but I haven't been able to find anything larger or in a lossless format. Your best bet for that might be to buy one of the postcards and scan it yourself; from a quick look I see a number of cheap listings including ones at $4 and $5. Best, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Australian railroad IP yet again Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Newton Lower Falls Branch

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Your GA nomination of Newton Lower Falls Branch

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May I present to you...

		The Original Barnstar
		For countless contributions to railway articles. MJ (talk) 06:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

@Mjdestroyerofworlds: Thank you! Your contributions are much appreciated as well. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Walnut Hill Station

Do you know anything about the Walnut Hill Station in Dedham, along the NY, NH, & H railroad? This map shows it, about a third of the way over from the left. Look under the large B in "Fairbanks Park." My best guess, if it actually existed, would be that was about here. The map shows a few proposed streetcars, but doesn't say anything about about this being proposed. I've never heard of it before, have you? Thanks! -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 05:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Slugger O'Toole: It did in fact exist, and your location guess is accurate. It's not a terribly well-documented station. The earliest mention I find is 1874, and there was a station building by 1876. It may have been called "Mill Village" before that, but it doesn't show on any earlier maps. It was renamed East Dedham sometime between 1900 and 1907; it appears the post office was renamed in 1901. It was a stop up until Dedham Branch service ended in 1967. Boston's Commuter Rail: Second Section has an undated photo on page 31. It's consistent with what's shown on Sanborn maps - an island platform with a small wooden station between the tracks, and steps up to the Walnut Street bridge.

As you may have surmised, that "proposed belt line electric railroad" was never built. The only streetcar line to enter that part of Dedham was an Old Colony Street Railway line on Walnut, Oakdale, and Cobbler, built after 1900. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 09:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Probably not enough for an article then. I added a note to History of rail in Dedham, Massachusetts with a citation to one of the articles you clipped... which raises a new question about the Oakdale station. Probably at River Street, or thereabouts, I am guessing from the description. --- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 05:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Early name for Ashcroft station. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

This map by @Whoop whoop pull up: shows Ashcroft on a different line. Is one of you mistaken, or am I missing something? -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 08:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I think you may be misreading the article. That map you linked is correct - Oakdale/Ashcroft was located at Dale Street on the NY&NE (now the Franklin Line). It's also shown on the 1876 map. To the best of my knowledge, there was never a station on the Dedham Branch at River Street. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

The location I put Ashcroft in on that map's based on one of the maps at the back of my copy of Boston's Commuter Rail: The First 150 Years, which puts Ashcroft on (what's now) the Franklin Line between Readville and Endicott. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes} 08:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

MBTA Ridership

Hello!

I saw you deleted the "Ridership" section on the MBTA article. It is wildly out of date but I think the bones are good, no? The data needs updating but the format looks fine to me. Maybe you are working on an updated ridership section? Someone needs to do it, and I am happy to help but I wanted to check-in first. Cheers!

SSR07 (talk) 01:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

@SSR07: I deleted the section because it was wildly out of date, and I don't see a need to have multiple years of by-mode ridership. (That is better kept as tabular data in the Data: namespace on Commons.) Additionally, two-thirds of the section was solely about the MBTA subway, rather than the MBTA as a whole. The historical subway ridership data might be worth adding on the MBTA subway article, but the list of busiest stations comes across as trivia to me.

The MBTA article needs a wholesale overall - much of it is out of date, and it has excessive detail on some subjects and not enough on others. I'm not opposed to discussing ridership by mode in the article, and you're welcome to create a new section. I would recommend having it be a level-3 subsection under the "Services" section rather than a level-2 section. I would recommend just having a single chart of current daily ridership by mode, perhaps with a comparison to pre-covid numbers. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Thank you for your amazing images of the various stations of the MBTA! Definitely gives folks in Boston a much more personalized look at the stations. I'd love to know what camera you used to take the pictures. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 07:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@That Coptic Guy: Thank you!! I mostly use a Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS70 (a compact superzoom) and a Samsung Galaxy S10 phone. Neither is exactly top-of-the-line, but they're sufficient for my purposes. I've considered getting an SLR, which would allow higher-quality photos, but they're bulky and less durable. Best, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Newton Lower Falls Branch

On 28 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Newton Lower Falls Branch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Newton Lower Falls Branch was operated with a single electric railcar nicknamed the "Ping-Pong"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Newton Lower Falls Branch. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Newton Lower Falls Branch), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Albany-Rensselaer station

I know I was a bit bold in renaming that article, but here's the source. Discussion coming ... HangingCurve^{Swing for the fence} 22:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@HangingCurve: Please refer to WP:COMMONNAME. We generally do not move articles on rail stations when they are given ceremonial names unless the ceremonial name becomes the common name. I would recommend against filing a move discussion, because I can guarantee you there will not be consensus to move. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Orlando station red link

Plip!

Hello, I have noticed that the link to Orlando Health/Amtrak station now comes up red when using the "Amtk" template (Orlando). I noticed you edited the link last so I thought I would offer you this minnow, and ask how I can fix the module lest something like this happens again. Thanks! Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 17:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Hotdog with ketchup: Good catch! Fixed it here. Best, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

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Line and service

Experimenting with bundling two routemaps using {{switcher}} to deal with the line/service issue: User:Mackensen/Atlantic City Line. Mackensen (talk) 01:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mackensen: I like it. Seems like a good way to help with the line/service distinction in cases where there's not necessarily enough material for two separate articles. Might get a bit complicated when there are other maps already in the infobox, but often those can be moved into the prose. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Sources for Western Pacific's San Francisco operations

Good morning. As it stands now, Wikipedia is pretty complete as far as documenting the mainline railroads that operated in San Francisco. The exceptions are the myriad street railways (which may never really be done, but what's being done with the New York streetcar lines is quite impressive, so maybe) and those aren't mainline railways anyway, and the WP branch. It's been devilishly hard for me to find any reliable sources on the internet for that railroad outside of some maps. Are you aware of anything I should check out? -MJ (talk) 17:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mjdestroyerofworlds: Unfortunately, I don't know of any good coverage of the WP and Santa Fe freight lines in San Francisco. When Steam Ran on the Streets of San Francisco only covers passenger operations so it doesn't go into any detail on the lines. You might have to assemble it primarily from newspaper clippings - there seems to have been a decent amount of coverage of the construction of the Potrero Hill tunnel. Might also be worth reaching out to Market Street Railway to see if they have any sources to recommend. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Need help altering a map file

Hi! I wanted to ask for your help with altering a map file if that was alright. I noticed you had previously altered this map file previously portraying the original South Line for the San Diego Trolley. However, I've noticed that it's still missing the station at "San Diego Square", which opened as part of the initial line and was located between the "Gaslamp" and "City College" stations on this particular map. Unfortunately, I don't know how to edit vector map files like these, so I was wondering if you could be able to help make this hopefully simple and straightforward correction. Thank you! OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 08:04, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@OrdinaryScarlett: I've made the change. Best, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 04:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

UMass Donahue Institute

Hi Pi.1415926535,

Thanks for your attention to the erstwhile UMass Donahue Institute, but I’m not sure a redirect without further effort is a good solution. For one thing, there is no mention of the institute in at University of Massachusetts Amherst, and yet, the institute is clearly notable, as it is frequently cited in many news articles[2] related to many kinds of public policy in New England. Your point that the references are insufficient is definitely true, however — all the references were from the org’s own site, what was I thinking?? So I will not unredirect until more external references have been added. Thanks for all your work on Wikipedia babbage (talk) 14:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Babbage: Thanks for reaching out. I happened across the article while doing new page patrol. As a reminder, notability requires significant coverage about the subject itself. While there's lots of articles that mention studies by the institute, only one of them discusses the institute itself at all, and not in enough detail to base an article on. (It's also a press release by the state government, which may not quite meet the "independent" criterion of WP:GNG.) Unless you're able to find some independent sources that have substantial coverage about the institute itself, I would recommend just having a paragraph at University of Massachusetts Amherst rather than creating a separate article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Re: Needham Layover

I ride the Needham Line frequently on weekends and I have not seen a single train in the layover in quite a long time. In fact it looks like the ground power connections may have even been removed or deactivated. And three different conductors have also confirmed that the layover is no longer being used except in emergencies, supposedly as a cost-cutting measure. All early AM departures are stored overnight in Boston and deadheaded out to Needham Heights. 2601:18C:8B82:9E0:5DE5:D2F0:5221:21ED (talk) 02:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@2601:18C:8B82:9E0:5DE5:D2F0:5221:21ED: I appreciate your efforts to keep Wikipedia updated, but all information must be sourced to reliable published sources; anecdotal information is not sufficient. Please read WP:V and WP:RS for details and instructions. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

BART's alleged racially biased design

Following up on the discussion on the BART talk page. Do you think the source I found about San Antonio could be used for the article? Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 17:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

List of Amtrak stations

Hello,

How would you feel about adding a note under the section for "active stations" saying that the article only lists rail connections? I feel that this would prevent confusion and editors adding bus lines like I mistakenly did.

Thanks so much!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 20:57, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

@JuxtaposedJacob: I added the word "rail" to the header to clarify. Best, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that works.

Have a good day!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 03:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Borealis

Those changes I made on the Borealis is how it's like on the Hiawatha and the Empire Builder, two lines that the Borealis shares with. Endrias Kassa (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Endrias Kassa: Please see WP:REPEATLINK. Links should not be repeated within a section or table. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Then why is it like that for the other two Amtrak lines that it overlaps with? Endrias Kassa (talk) 17:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Endrias Kassa: Because no one had fixed them to comply with the Manual of Style. I have now done so. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:16, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Well, it's also like that for many other Amtrak routes so good luck trying to change all of them. Endrias Kassa (talk) 06:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

@Endrias Kassa: Wikipedia is a work in progress, especially with the MoS. You are welcome to assist with these articles. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

How do you change the table on the Blue Water to update the interchanges? Endrias Kassa (talk) 06:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Endrias Kassa: It's stored in Template:Station connections. Given that most Amtrak stations are only served by 1 or 2 routes, it might be best to restore the connections directly to the article and depreciate the template. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Silver Hill

I am shocked, shocked, to discover that they are going to reopen Silver Hill. Usually when the MBTA "indefinitely" closes something, it can be widely assumed that the closure is permanent unless some sort of significant reconstruction is planned (i.e. South Attleboro). I'm surprised they can even get away with reopening it without making it ADA accessible. They also seem to be trying to keep this under wraps... there's no mention of it in any of the schedule change announcements. I only stumbled upon it while browsing Google Maps tonight as the GTFS feed has already been updated. 2601:18C:8B82:9E0:81C2:A01A:C456:9E71 (talk) 03:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

It is a bit strange; I assume it was a political ask rather than an MBTA decision. It is shown in the PDF schedule and interactive schedule. Per the Guide to Access (see page 15), requirements for accessibility renovations are triggered by the cost of other work being performed at a station. (That's under Massachusetts law, which is more strict than the federal ADA.) If minimal work was done for the reopening, it would have have triggered the legal requirement for accessibility. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

SOAC

Hello,

I noticed that you reverted my edit that removed the link to Urban Mass Transportation Administration so I clarified that the Federal Transit Administration became the UMTA; does that work for you? Revert if not, it's not of particular importance to me.

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 19:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

@JuxtaposedJacob: There is no reason to remove the link (see MOS:REDIR) nor to add the additional detail. The agency was known as the UMTA during the period that the SOAC was designed and tested; there is no need to detail the later history of the agency. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)