Padraig
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Hi - the UK Parliament succession box for Belfast South is correct. The one for the NI Parliament constituency of the same name is incorrect, as it was abolished in 1929, and he therefore had no successor, and of limited use, as it was a four-member constituency, so it will be confusing to attempt to identify successors for the other members. Warofdreams talk 23:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK, the new box is fine, but as has been pointed out, it was a multi-member constituency, so succession boxes are generally pretty unclear. If four members change at an election, who has succeeded whom? I've been deliberately omitting succession boxes for everyone elected in the pre-1929 constituencies. Do you have an idea as to how we could make the successions clear? Warofdreams talk 00:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, this is the pre-1929 constituency we are talking about, right? The multimember constituency. There are some easy cases, but I'd rather go for consistency and either have succession boxes for everyone or no-one during this period. I really dislike putting a "?" - for me, that means that we don't yet have the information, not that there were several changes and the situation is complicated. The guideline I always use is that if it can't be properly explained in the succession box, don't use a succession box for it. Warofdreams talk 00:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm no happier with un-determined, as it's basically the same thing. In your Belfast South example, who succeeded Crawford McCullagh? Was it P. J. Woods, or was it Arthur Black? I suppose there is a case for saying Woods, as McCullagh contested the election and was beaten by him, but it's not cut-and-dried - it is the sort of thing which needs explanation, so it's not well suited to a succession box. The issue of succession boxes in multimember constituencies has come up before, and the solution which has been used elsewhere is to list everyone who represented the seat immediately before an individual's election under before, everyone who represented the seat at the same time in small type in the years field, and everyone who represented the seat immediately after an individual stood down under after. That is unambiguous, works well enough for two-seat constituencies, and might work for the Belfast constituencies, but I imagine will look pretty awful for the larger ones. Warofdreams talk 01:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, this is the pre-1929 constituency we are talking about, right? The multimember constituency. There are some easy cases, but I'd rather go for consistency and either have succession boxes for everyone or no-one during this period. I really dislike putting a "?" - for me, that means that we don't yet have the information, not that there were several changes and the situation is complicated. The guideline I always use is that if it can't be properly explained in the succession box, don't use a succession box for it. Warofdreams talk 00:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Both of you; nothing on the talk page, so that's just edit-warring pure and simple. Any more and I'll invoke probation. Black Kite 15:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
NI Flag
editI changed it to the Union Jack because I'm sick of arguing but it was reverted by another editor, if you have a problem with it you can no longer implicate me and I suggest you take it up with the other editor - Highfields (talk) (contribs) 16:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Moving articles
editI have proposed that the articles “foreign relations of the Republic of Ireland; civil service of the Republic of Ireland and public service of the Republic of Ireland" be renamed in each case by deleting the words “the Republic of”. As you’ve previously discussed this issue, I thought you might wish to know that this is being discussed here. Very few have participated in the discussion so far. I'm not sure how widely the discussion forum is used. Redking7 (talk) 10:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
World Flags Page
editFeel free to comment on the proposed new guidelines for what is on the page and potential compromise on the NI flag issue - Highfields (talk) (contribs) 17:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
LCJNI
editThanks for the source on Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland, does it clarify that the list misses no one out and doesn't include anyone who ought not be on there? --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 09:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, excellent. If I remember correctly I included some of them just relying on my memory. --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 10:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I see Sir Lancelot wasn't one though; I was wrong there. This says he was, wouldn't trust the BBC though! --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 10:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- Certainly more accurate than the BBC! --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 10:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I see Sir Lancelot wasn't one though; I was wrong there. This says he was, wouldn't trust the BBC though! --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 10:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
padraig ,r.i.p
editafter a six long year battle with cancer my brother patrick known to you as padraig ,passed away today in a hospice in hackney london may he rest in peace any enquirys about padraig can be addressed to me at [email protected] i will reply to everyone thank you .
- Thats a huge shock. My sincerest condolences to you and your family.Traditional unionist (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am absolutely shocked and saddened by this awful news. Padraig was a super editor, an incredible asset to the project. He worked in a seriously contentious area, where there have been many battles, but he always edited with fairness and consideration for others. We'll miss him. Ar dheis lamh De go raibh a anam dhílis - Alison ❤ 21:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- My sincere condolences to Padraig's family. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 22:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- God bless, and may he rest comfortably in the arms of God. May you find the strength to get through this horrible time. SirFozzie (talk) 22:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- RIP Patrick Devlin (Padraig), you & your contributions shall always be a part of the Wikipedia community. We mourn the passing of a fellow Wikipedian. GoodDay (talk) 22:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- I join these others who have expressed their condolences. This is a terrible loss for Wikipedia, certainly, but much more so for his family and friends. Those of us who had the privilege of knowing him here will miss him, but we must temper our words with the knowledge that those who truly knew him must be shattered right now. May our Creator grant them peace and solace. Godspeed, Padraig. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 23:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- My condolences to his family in this difficult time. Sarah777 (talk) 23:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam uasal. Pádraig was a tremendous contributor, always fair and polite in his approach. He'll be missed. My sincere sympathies to his family at this time.--Damac (talk) 08:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Deepest condolences to Padraig's family. Even though I never talked to Padraig, it is always sad to lose a member and a great friend to those who knew him. RedThunder 11:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Slan a chara, as others have said you will be a terrible loss to Wikipedia, and personally missed greatly by myself. It was a privilege and an honour to have you with us! Our loss is Tír Eoghain's gain. --Vintagekits (talk) 11:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- My deepest condolences to the family of Padraig at this very sad time. BigDuncTalk 12:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- My condolences. I always enjoyed the verbal sparring I had with Padraig, and even though we didn't agree on everything, he was unfailingly polite. RIP. Black Kite 20:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Terrible news. Padraig was a prolific editor in Ireland related articles whoļl be missed. My condolences to his family. Valenciano (talk) 07:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Condolences to the family, sad news indeed. Astrotrain (talk) 09:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- My condolences to family and friends of Padraig. Autarch (talk) 10:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm genuinely shocked. Rest in peace Padraig. Stu ’Bout ye! 13:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is a sore loss to Wikipedia, especially the Ireland-related articles. My condolences to his family. Scolaire (talk) 13:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Que se descanse en paz. Definitely a good one, will be missed. Thanks, SqueakBox 14:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- My condolences to the family of Patrick at this hard time. --Cameron (T|C) 11:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm very sorry to hear this. We tried to sort out one of the (many) difficulties on Wikipedia together, and he struck me then as having a good sense of humour (although he also told me that he drank Jack Daniel's whiskey, which struck me as seriously strange!). How wonderful that he spent the final part of his life contributing to passing on knowledge and, in doing so, making so many friends; you must be very proud of him. My sympathies and best wishes to you all --Major Bonkers (talk) 14:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is very sad news. While it pales into insignificance at the loss of a family member or friend, I hope Padraig's family can take some pride in realizing how much good work he put into our project over the last few years. And know that he will be missed by those who interacted with him here, even though many of us never new him personally. Whether one always agreed with him or not, his passion and drive to inform our readers about Ireland and her history was never in doubt. He was a fine Wikipedian, and we are poorer for his passing. Rockpocket 00:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- My thoughts are with his family. I had some differences with him, but I acknowledge he was a great Wikipedian and an example of very good work. Hasta siempre, Padraigh. Nos estamos viendo, amigo.--Darius (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- "In paradisum deducant te Angeli; in tuo adventu suscipiant te martyres, et perducant te in civitatem sanctam Ierusalem. Chorus angelorum te suscipiat, et cum Lazaro quondam paupere æternam habeas requiem." Amen, and I hope they have Jack Daniels, there too. Giano (talk) 19:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Such a tragic loss, condolences to his family. --Barryob (Contribs) (Talk) 19:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is very sad news, I am sorry for your loss. --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- My thought are with his family. It is loss for Wikipedia, as well. Take care, FloNight♥♥♥ 19:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am so sorry for your loss. I never encountered Padraig on here, but he will be missed. By all of us fellow Wikipedians.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 01:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Slan a chara. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam uasal. --Bardcom (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- And here I was coming to ask his opinion on something... I'm so sorry to hear this, he was a terrific editor. ʄ!•¿talk? 12:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear of Padraig's passing, he was a notable contributor to quite a few articles on Northern Ireland.Alastairward (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- A notable Irish Wikipedian who will be sorely missed. His contributions won't be forgotten. Rest In Peace Padraig. KakkoiiTGN (talk) 18:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Funeral service
edit(I have been requested by the family to add this here on their behalf - Alison ❤)
remembering padraig ( patrick devlin)
editalmost a year now since my brother patrick (padraig) passed away im sure he still checks in with wikipedia wherever he may be
i just hope they have broadband there ,or he will be seriously pissed off he loved posting on wikipedia and when he had to give up work
because of his illness he found it a great outlet to share his views with the general public ,especially politics and i wish to thank everyone who
spoke to him through here .although patrick lived for the last 25 years of his life in hackney london ,he came from strabane in county tyrone northern
ireland and after he died we scattered his ashes on mount errigal in donegal as was his wishes .
so i just wish to remember my big brother patrick this week and to say i miss you patrick and your always in our hearts .
xxx paul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.219.98 (talk) 14:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- He's not forgotten around here Paul I assure ya.--Vintagekits (talk) 21:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Two years passed now. Gone but definitely not forgotten. Things are quieter and less fun without you around these parts .. - Alison ❤ 03:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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