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Palestine-Israel articles 5 arbitration case opened

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Elections

There is absolutely no rule documented anywhere that the continent-level election categories are non-diffusing. They're not tagged as being non-diffusing, and the vast majority of election articles aren't being double-filed at both the country and continent levels — the ones I've been moving are isolated exceptions to the way most other elections are being categorized, because most elections aren't in the continent-level category if there's a country-specific subcategory for them, and the ones that are double-filed as such are very much in the minority.

If you want to establish a consensus that they should be non-diffusing, you're free to make that case with an RFC at the appropriate WikiProject — but they're not currently tagged as being non-diffusing, and if they were to be non-diffusing then the continent-level categories would have to be applied to every single election article across the board, not just a random subset of them. Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bearcat: You are correct there is no rule, but it is such a minor/specialised thing that it wouldn't be appropriate to have a defined rule – there is just a convention that this is how it works. Can you please stop removing them. Thanks, Number 57 17:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

There clearly isn't any convention that "that's how it works", if (a) the categories aren't tagged with the non-diffusing or all-included templates, which they have to be if they're intended that way because how would anybody ever know that they were intended that way otherwise, and (b) the overwhelming majority of election articles aren't double-filed at both the country and continent levels, and only a very small minority of them have been categorized that way at all (which can be simple user error rather than proof of a real rule in and of itself), and again if there were an established convention that the categories were meant to be non-diffusing, then it would have to be applied across the board to all election articles, not just a small random subset. So if there's a "convention" that that's how it works, then where is said convention documented? Bearcat (talk) 17:30, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Not all Wikipedia conventions are formally documented, and I don't think you are correct in saying 'overwhelming majority'; if anything I suspect the majority may be the other way round (I have at least 450 removals of the continental categories by you on my watchlist and probably less than a quarter of countries have 'elections by year' categories).

Anyway, I will start a discussion at WT:E&R on the matter that can be something to point to in future (whatever is agreed). Number 57 18:47, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

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Palestine-Israel articles 5 updates

You are receiving this message because you are on the update list for Palestine-Israel articles 5. The drafters note that the scope of the case was somewhat unclear, and clarify that the scope is The interaction of named parties in the WP:PIA topic area and examination of the WP:AE process that led to two referrals to WP:ARCA. Because this was unclear, two changes are being made:

First, the Committee will accept submissions for new parties for the next three days, until 23:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC). Anyone who wishes to suggest a party to the case may do so by creating a new section on the evidence talk page, providing a reason with WP:DIFFS as to why the user should be added, and notifying the user. After the three-day period ends, no further submission of parties will be considered except in exceptional circumstances. Because the Committee only hears disputes that have failed to be resolved by the usual means, proposed parties should have been recently taken to AE/AN/ANI, and either not sanctioned, or incompletely sanctioned. If a proposed party has not been taken to AE/AN/ANI, evidence is needed as to why such an attempt would have been ineffective.

Second, the evidence phase has been extended by a week, and will now close at 23:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC). For the Arbitration Committee, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)