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on 25 August 2024 I asked if I can have extended confirmed access back. Can I have it back now? Most of the articles I wanna edit I can't, and I've been constructively editing for months HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I submitted a request like months ago and I never got a notification back. Can you just give it to me? Remember last time when I had extended confirmed access, there was no vandalism or edit wars or anything like that, I tried my best to edit constructive. I admit a few months ago I got impatience at times and tried to rush edits in one night and wasted people's time in talk pages by arguing about stupid things. But I changed. My discussions in talk pages have been constructive in the last few months, barely any of my edits get reverted because I believe they're good and makes the page better, and nobody had to explain the rules to me anymore, I recently read all of them. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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Quick note on Template:U.S. current election editnotice

Thanks for your edits to Template:U.S. current election editnotice.

Most of the cable news channels draw their data from AP/Reuters who makes their own calls. I think CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. may still be reliable in terms of election reporting despite being poor outside of these elections. I don't think we should say anything other than "[name of source] called [name of state] for [candidate]" as attributed opinion. This kind of stuff requires multiple reliable sources, yes. I don't think hand picking arbitrary reliable sources and only using those sources to call elections is a good idea. Awesome Aasim 23:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim the reason for this is that all of those five have independent desks. NBC and MSNBC make the same calls. Fox News is probably not reliable post-2020. And this is for listing states as "X won" in wikivoice, not noting that a candidate was called the winner by a particular station. For that, we can include even if there isn't a consensus between all the networks yet. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

What about foreign news sources? Like CBC or BBC or ABC Australia or DW? Don't they also make calls on election night? Awesome Aasim 23:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Pretty sure most of those aren't independent. And again we don't need to add more here unless you think a consensus of these five would be insufficient. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I do agree there should be significant agreement among reliable sources, though. Awesome Aasim 23:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

There is also PBS/NPR. But they also pull data from AP. Awesome Aasim 23:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

For future reference, almost all the election calls are pulled from AP and Reuters. BBC used the Reuters count. Google, Bing and more used the AP count. If a call is made by both AP and Reuters, it almost certainly will be made by the others. Awesome Aasim 18:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I'm well aware of this. That's why I didn't include Google, Bing, etc. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I would oppose to including Google and Bing as well. Reuters and AP are the only two sources that these networks are basing their calls from. Awesome Aasim 19:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iminthethickofit (09:55, 6 November 2024)

Hi I'm Iminthethickofit (Inspired by the banger 'Thick of It' by KSI, not sure if you know what it is). How are you doing, hope you're well. My question today is why are some topics that have 'View Source' instead of the option to edit? I have heard that I think it has that because it is trying to protect the topic but just asking for comfirmation. Personal question (optional): Do you like 'Thick of It' by KSI, if you are an NPC you probably don't know it but becuase I assume you are human I'm sure you know what it is. What do you think of it? Kind regards, Iminthethickofit --Iminthethickofit (talk) 09:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

@Iminthethickofit (talk page stalker) When you see 'view source' instead of 'edit source', its because you cannot edit that page due to protection. Pages can be protected due to vandalism, edit war, disputes and a few other reasons . Thick of It (KSI song) is semi-protected, meaning you need at least 10 edits and 4 days. This comment is your only edit so far in Wikipedia and you only created this account on the 6th. Because the bar of semi-protection is low, you should consider editing elsewhere until you can edit semi-protected articles. And no, both me and your mentor Elli are humans, not NPCs. JuniperChill (talk) 11:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from TuuliMadero (10:51, 8 November 2024)

Hello,

We would like to create a Wikipedia page about our company.

Is this possible? If possible, could you help us?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=tuuli+gmbh

Thanks --TuuliMadero (talk) 10:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@TuuliMadero hi and thanks for reaching out. You should generally not write about your company yourself, because you have a conflict of interest. You can request an article, though it is unlikely one will be created unless you have multiple reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage of your company. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Shelter and support on User:Shelter and support/sandbox (06:55, 11 November 2024)

how do i save my work --Shelter and support (talk) 06:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Shelter and support the "Publish page" button should do it. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)