Talk:Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh
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Paramilitary?
editBy Wikipedia's own definition "A paramilitary is a military that is not part of a country's official or legitimate armed forces." RSS is not a social and cultural organization, it's not an armed paramilitary organization. This is totally bizarre and misleading characterization. It is a legal organization within India and they're not armed or trained like soldiers. Yasarhossain07 (talk) 16:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. If no objections, I'd like to remove this by end of week.
- In general, this article is full of NPOV violations even if yes the characterizations are sourced by some book I can't readily access. Calling the RSS a "far-right" group is also quite questionable (the BJP typically wins over a third of the vote in India - it's solidly in the mainstream), and I can only find rather left-wing sources making that claim. Usaar33 (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please omit the word paramilitary for describing the RSS Deepti du 27 (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- the use of the word "paramilitary" is backed by several well known sources and any removal in the introductory part of the article should only be done through a vote. DataCrusade1999 (talk) 13:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Majority is not always right. Freedom of speech and bill of rights are there to protect (minority's) truth. 139.5.26.66 (talk) 05:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Please familiarize yourself with how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia is not the place to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. We report what the WP:RELIABLESOURCES say, that's it. Brusquedandelion (talk) 12:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not decided via a WP:VOTE, but otherwise I agree with you. Brusquedandelion (talk) 12:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Majority is not always right. Freedom of speech and bill of rights are there to protect (minority's) truth. 139.5.26.66 (talk) 05:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- the use of the word "paramilitary" is backed by several well known sources and any removal in the introductory part of the article should only be done through a vote. DataCrusade1999 (talk) 13:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please omit the word paramilitary for describing the RSS Deepti du 27 (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Paramilitary word is gross mischaracterization of the organisation and has to be removed. 139.5.26.66 (talk) 05:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the WP:RELIABLESOURCES disagree. Brusquedandelion (talk) 12:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but Wikipedia is not written based on your personal opinions. It is based on what the reliable sources say. And, need I remind you, the Brownshirts was a perfectly legal organization. Brusquedandelion (talk) 12:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Rss is not involved in anti muslim activity
editRemove this 2409:40C2:1158:5967:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 03:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please fill out an edit request so your request can be denied through the proper channels. Brusquedandelion (talk) 12:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
I am copying the following from a previous post I made here that got archived, since the issue has not been addressed. In the original post, I noted some changes I was going to make but have only had the time to make a few of them, nor has anyone else addressed this issue; it remains a problem: Do not remove the neutrality template from the Mission section without addressing this issue, as some have tried to do. The original post:
The Mission section is currently written against Wikipedia guidelines. I am going to rename this section "Ideology" and rewrite it, incorporating some of the discussion above re: the organization's relation to Fascism, but of course also incorporating discussion of other topics related to their ideology and goals in secondary (and tertiary) sources, while trimming the obviously self-promotional, primary source content that presently forms the basis of this section. If people want to contribute to this, feel free to reply below with suggestions (for sources, wording, etc.).
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 November 2024
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change number of shakhas mentioned approx 60,000 as per the old data to 1,57,001 Shakhas/Mandalis/Milans/Sthans Refer - https://www.rss.org/pdf/Sarkaryawah%20Prativedan%202024.pdf Pratik.S2005 (talk) 06:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: Can you provide the page number—where the data has been mentioned? The AP (talk) 15:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Page 4th of above pdf where comparison chart of total numbers are mentioned. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 06:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Page 2 (according to printed number in pdf) Pratik.S2005 (talk) 06:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @TheAstorPastor Please look into the page number provided, ask if any other details needed. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 04:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Page 4th of above pdf where comparison chart of total numbers are mentioned. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 06:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Done Sorry for the late response. The AP (talk) 06:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @TheAstorPastor you forgot to edit year of latest total number of shakhas, it should be 2024 instead of 2016. pls check Pratik.S2005 (talk) 12:44, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also with 73117 Shakhas, you can mention 45600 Sthans, 27717 Milans, 10567 Mandalis & In all total please mention total Point of work as 157001 places. All are mentioned in the above pdf. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 12:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pratik.S2005 Please clarify the information, so that we can add a separate sub heading for this. Thanks ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 17:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- @PerspicazHistorian Refer Page Number 2 of the pdf attached above to get the graph with all the updated counts under, as per latest 2024 data. Also it's from the official Website. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done
- I have rather added a graph for this, can be updated in future.
- PerspicazHistorian (talk) 07:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pratik.S2005 Please do consider giving a barnstar. I am new to wiki. :) PerspicazHistorian (talk) 08:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @PerspicazHistorian Refer Page Number 2 of the pdf attached above to get the graph with all the updated counts under, as per latest 2024 data. Also it's from the official Website. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pratik.S2005 Please clarify the information, so that we can add a separate sub heading for this. Thanks ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 17:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I’ve updated the year, but I don’t think it’s necessary to include milans or similar details in the infobox. Feel free to open another request if you’d like, and another editor can make changes if they see fit. The AP (talk) 13:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also with 73117 Shakhas, you can mention 45600 Sthans, 27717 Milans, 10567 Mandalis & In all total please mention total Point of work as 157001 places. All are mentioned in the above pdf. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 12:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @TheAstorPastor you forgot to edit year of latest total number of shakhas, it should be 2024 instead of 2016. pls check Pratik.S2005 (talk) 12:44, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
There are lots of miss information
editto defame RSS there are lots of misinformation. Give the option to edit. Santanu243 (talk) 03:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Newslinger talk 03:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)- what changes you want to be made? Its not clear PerspicazHistorian (talk) 06:46, 16 December 2024 (UTC)