Talk:Status of Jerusalem

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Latest comment: 4 months ago by Selfstudier in topic Opening paragraph


Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 November 2023

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Change "Only four countries have embassies to Israel in Jerusalem: the US, Guatemala, Honduras and the partially recognized Kosovo" to "Only five countries have embassies to Israel in Jerusalem: the US, Guatemala, Honduras, Papua New Guinea and the partially recognized Kosovo" as Papua new guinea recently moved their embassy to Jerusalem. source: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/papua-new-guinea-opens-embassy-jerusalem-2023-09-05/ Chilp302 (talk) 11:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Done Elli (talk | contribs) 20:11, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Wrong Hussein bin Ali

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The islamic holy sites sections contains the following: "The status of Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem, including Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount, is also unresolved. In 1924, the Supreme Muslim Council, the highest Muslim body in charge of Muslim community affairs in Mandatory Palestine, accepted Hussein bin Ali (Sharif of Mecca) as custodian of Al-Aqsa."

The link for Hussein bin Ali redirects to the page for Hussein ibn Ali the Shia imam from the 7th century. This is obviously not the right Hussein. The correct Hussein was the King of Hejaz from this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussein_bin_Ali,_King_of_Hejaz). Please fix this.

Laughable that an error like this got through on this overly-moderated nanny state of a website Stuffmaster1000 (talk) 21:47, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Fixed. Yue🌙 20:15, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 November 2023

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2A00:23C8:2A82:DE01:94D0:1A57:6F01:F316 (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine.

  Not done: It says right in the first sentence that Palestine claims it as its capital. Tollens (talk) 23:14, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Parts of Jerusalem in Oslo Accords

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Hello Wikipedians, I have seen that few neighbourhoods in Jerusalem such as Sur Baher, Umm Tuba and Beit Hanina were included in the Oslo Accords and PA have some sovereignty in these places. Pls see to it and mention it in the article. Thanks Ya Haraami (talk) 14:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Opening paragraph

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Opening paragraph does so much mental gymnastics to avoid stating what the conflict is about. PA recognizes Israel and thus its sovereignty over West Jerusalem. What it does not recognize is its sovereignty over East Jerusalem including its holy sites such as Aqsa mosque and Dome of the Rock, which are part of the West Bank considered occupied by Israel under international law. That's the current conflict on the status of Jerusalem. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:50, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Makeandtoss do you want to WP:BOLDly edit this? So we can finally remove the NPOV banner? VR (Please ping on reply) 22:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I unfortunately can't think of any good phrasings for the opening paragraph at this moment. Makeandtoss (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The ICJ ruling has declared the territories of the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza strip to be a single political unit; as the Palestinians have long argued. Accordingly, the opening sentence should reflect this; portraying West Jerusalem as part of Israel, and East Jerusalem as part of the OPT since 1967 that was illegally annexed according to international law (not according to only Palestinians). Makeandtoss (talk) 10:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yep, I agree with that, it has been a bit up in the air for a long time but if we accept that the legal position is as the ICJ says it is, then no reason not to go with that. Be nice to get some secondary sourcing as well. Selfstudier (talk) 17:00, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request

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In the section on foreign embassies appears the following sentence:

The United States had a consulate general in Jerusalem, which was reclassified as its embassy in 2018.

It is followed by a "citation needed" tag. I suggest that this text be changed to read

The United States consulate general in Jerusalem, which had acted as a de facto embassy to the Palestinians, was merged into the Jerusalem-based embassy following its 2018 relocation.

supported with the reference

"US consulate general in Jerusalem merges with embassy". BBC News. March 5, 2019. Retrieved April 7, 2024.

or something along those lines. The current text is factually inaccurate as there was an embassy in Tel Aviv that was separate from the consulate general prior to 2018. 1.141.198.161 (talk) 08:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 15:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply