Talk:Microsoft 365

Merger proposal

I think that Office 365 should merge into Microsoft 365 because of Office 365 is rebranding as Microsoft 365 from April 21, 2020. --ᴛʜᴇMᴀɴLK ^(Talk) 04:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

• Agree (other way around): Microsoft 365 should merge into Office 365, and then be rebranded to "Microsoft 365" (take the content from this page, delete it, rename the existing one to Microsoft 365, and add back the content from this page) GeekInParadise (talk) 22:13, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
• Agree: just keep "formerly Office 365" in the title because people will search for that.
• Oppose: Microsoft 365 existed before this rebranding as an enterprise offering, and Office 365 is still a separate, notable product. ViperSnake151  Talk  23:13, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
• Agree: Microsoft renamed Office 365 to Microsoft 365 on April 21st, 2020. Go to this website and see it for yourself: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365. All plans on that website have been renamed to Microsoft 365. Office 365 no longer exists, therefore Office 365 should merge into Microsoft 365. And if you insist that Office 365 still exists, you are an idiot like the idiot who wrote the above comment. 2600:1700:BBD0:8050:B5AB:84E:FAAC:4167 (talk) 04:27, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

How do you explain this? I found a blog post that basically said Office 365 still exists, but that the consumer and small business versions had been migrated to MS365. ViperSnake151  Talk  05:33, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose: Office 365 most certainly does still exist so to the boy who wrote "you are an idiot like the idiot who wrote the above comment", right back at ya :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.20.30 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Office 365 has been entirely rebranded as Microsoft 365.
5225_C (talk • contributions) 10:35, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

The post completely contradicts your claim "everything" was rebranded. ViperSnake151  Talk  20:52, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok then, we can leave the Office 365 article for Office 365 E1, E3, E5, F1, A1, A3, A5, G1, G3, and G5. Everything else can be moved to Microsoft 365, as per the article.
5225_C (talk • contributions) 00:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

• Agree but other way around as proposed by GeekInParadise.
  5225_C (talk • contributions) 10:35, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I still have Office 365 A1 Plus for students... 2A00:1370:812C:4261:6480:5ACD:5D21:999E (talk) 10:50, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

That might be the case, but that's because it hasn't been rebranded fully yet. There are lots of things that take time to be rebranded overtime that are not noticed right away or are kept that way for the time being for legacy reasons. There are many websites that are not kept up to date, and same can be said with software. Any re-brand takes time to fully implement. If Microsoft said they're re-branding it, it's a name change. Not sure how that's debatable at this point. GeekInParadise (talk) 17:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Actually Q. What Office 365 plan names aren’t changing? A. The following Office 365 plans will have no changes: see https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2020/03/30/new-microsoft-365-offerings-small-and-medium-sized-businesses/ 91.79.174.204 (talk) 02:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Office 365 E1, E3, E5, F1, A1, A3, A5, G1, G3, and G5 are remaining.
5225_C (talk • contributions) 08:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

• Agree Ribeiro2002Rafael (talk) 22:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
• Agree but other way around as proposed by GeekInParadise.
  Thunderbolt.wiki (talk • contributions) 1:16, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
• Agree In the Russian Wikipedia it was suggested to combine. Владимир Меланхолин (talk) 02:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
• Agree In the other way around as proposed by GeekInParadise. Office 365 is rebranded to Microsoft 365. Prosnipzzz (talk) 19:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
• Agree In the other way around as proposed by GeekInParadise. --Officer781 (talk) 07:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Agree But as GeekInParadise proposed.
• Oppose Office 365 was created long before rebranding as Microsoft 365. [| Francescobelletta(talk)]
• Agree as GeekInParadise proposed. [| Lewcm(talk)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewcm (talk • contribs) 15:15, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
• Agree with the suggestion of GeekInParadise to do it the other way around. Currently, one of the pages is too lacking in content, and these two topics are inter-related to the point where two articles don't appear necessary. Goodposts (talk) 22:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I don't know, since I don't use Office/Microsoft 365, but this is just a comment for Office/Microsoft 365 users: If they still write "Office 365..." (no matter what comes after in the "..." part) in the Account part when you click "File," then Office 365 article should not be merged into Microsoft 365 article since they would still write Office 365. I've watched videos about Office 365 but those are all older videos; I'm not sure if they still look like that. 2607:FEA8:31A0:2912:D125:7959:B9C:148A (talk) 14:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I mean, I looked at the Microsoft blog link in one of the above posts. So, I don't think the Office 365 article should be merged into the Microsoft 365 article since the name "Office 365" still exists. 2607:FEA8:31A0:2912:D125:7959:B9C:148A (talk) 14:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

• Agree In the way proposed by the second post of 5225C. 2607:FEA8:31A0:2912:D125:7959:B9C:148A (talk) 22:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Then, we can write that Office 365 was created in June 28, 2011 in the shorter Office 365 article, which was partially what [| Francescobelletta(talk)] proposed. 2607:FEA8:31A0:2912:D125:7959:B9C:148A (talk) 22:06, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

• Agree in the way proposed by GeekInParadise. Beckyaloot (talk) 22:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree: Microsoft renamed Office 365 to Microsoft 365 on April 21st, 2020.Alfonso&Alfonso13 (talk) 12:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. Wikipedia is not a catalogue listing currently available products. Whether Office 365 exists as a separate product as at AD 2020 is not the defining factor. We have an article Windows 8 and another Windows 8.1, and another Windows 10, one was not merged into the other . We even have Netscape Navigator and Netscape Navigator 2. So perhaps we do need to ensure the information that is still current moves to the Microsoft 365 article, but the historical information about Office 365 should remain in an Office 365 article. 4shires (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose: the two products are distinct. – Batreeq ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 09:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
• Agree: At this point, Office 365 has been renamed to Microsoft 365, so it would make sense to merge the two articles. SoloGaming (talk) 00:52, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
• Agree: New Name should be given and add "formerly Office 365".(Usually when a service or software gets rebranded the new name should be used along with old redirect to avoid confusion.) J.Stalin S ^Talk 01:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
• Agree: As of 7/12/2020 "Office 365" has been fully rebranded to Microsoft 365 (see this. Despite what 4shires said, Office 365 is not a historical product and Microsoft 365 is not an evolution of ite, they are the same product under a rebranded name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:3400:316:FB30:4924:2766:7C48:3629 (talk) 04:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Office 365 Wiki page should remain as it is with a NEW page for Microsoft 365. People will know of Office 365 starting life for a SaaS service for Microsoft. Yes it has been rebranded to Microsoft 365, however, Microsoft 365 will go on to develop into other interesting elements. A reference from the Office 365 page should be made to the new Microsoft 365 page. and a ref on the New Microsoft 365 page should ref back to the Office 365 page. So the Office 365 ends its life and remains as reference and history while the New Micosoft 365 page takes the baton up. (talk) 13:40, 05 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: You could say it's a renaming, like how Mac OS X changed to OS X changed to macOS, so you don't need separate article (and therefore they should merge), but you could also say it's a renaming, like how 86-DOS changed to MS-DOS, so you need a seperate article (and therefore they shouldn't merge) – y'all could take this either way. Popplio Zach (talk) 10:57, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
• Agree: Microsoft 365 is just a rebrand of Office 365, just change the article title to Microsoft 365 and set redirects to it from Office 365. Vista2003 (talk) 21:17, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
• Agree: (with caveats) A simple compromise can be achieved here. In this order:

1. GeekInParadise's idea to merge M365 into O365 first, then rename O365 to M365. This makes sense, as most info is on that page. Add the "(formerly Office 365)" line in opening lede paragraph.

2. As O365 remains as a specialist brand, have section on the new M365 page called "Office 365 (legacy editions branding)" (or similar) and have that section explain the remaining O365 specialist versions that remain in use.

3. Then make O365 a redirect to the M365 page. Not the legacy versions section itself (as most users searching will be doing so for the main M365 page, not the legacy branding versions).

Q: Why merge rather than separate? A: This is not an older product that has been superseded by a new one, but it's rather a brand name change. In these circumstances, we don't need the old name on its own page, but just a note in the lede paragraph – "(formerly Office 365)" does just that.

Thanks. -- Jimthing (talk) 23:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

One small thing to note in the article about naming: apps are still being released with Office in the name, e.g. MS just released an update to their joint single iOS app to now make it also work on iPadOS, under the name "Microsoft Office" (along with keeping the previous separate Word, Excel, PowerPoint ones). Jimthing (talk) 03:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Agree: I believe that they should be merged with information about when it was previously known as Office 365 instead of Microsoft 365 and then have the article talk about the refresh of the brand to Microsoft 365

Thanks -- LiamMcBride (talk) 17:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Agree with the other-direction merge (described by GeekInParadise, or a similar method), with the condition that the remaining Office 365 product offering be clearly described in the resultant article, if MS provides necessary clarity about this--mathieu ottawa (talk) 15:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
• Agree with Jimthing's proposal. TheWhistleGag (talk) 05:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

outage

Being an online service, Microsoft 365 is subject to disruptions in or through the Internet. A six-hour outage occurred in September 2020.https://www.zdnet.com/article/office-365-outage-ongoing-after-roll-back-fails/ 37.99.82.11 (talk) 10:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)