Talk:David Cameron

Latest comment: 6 days ago by TheAstorPastor in topic Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2024
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Now the Tories are out of government and he is no longer Foreign Secretary we might as well return the lead picture to being his Prime Minister portrait from 2010 as that's the highest ranking job he's had, what he's best known for and him as Foreign Secretary isn't current anymore 92.239.82.188 (talk) 11:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's a perfectly high-quality portrait. There's no reason to change it back to one from 14 years ago. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 06:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Personally, I think the Cameron 2010 Portrait is such bad quality (very weird lighting, odd facial expression), that it'd be better to keep the Foreign Secretary Portrait, which is better in all the aforementioned regards FredMcKinley (talk) 21:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agree with both of the above. --ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter (talk) 22:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Disagree with the three above, it is standard practice for very notable individuals to use a picture taken during the time they were in such a noteworthy position, including if they had served in an office following their tenure. Take former Vice President Walter Mondale for example, he was Vice President in the 70s but later served as ambassador in the 90s with an updated portrait, however that portrait isn't in the lead and instead is in the section about him serving as ambassador. The same should be done for Cameron, as his foreign secretary portrait is him over a decade older than his official portrait. TheFellaVB (talk) 20:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, it's standard to use the latest high-quality portrait available of living persons. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think the difference between Mondale and Cameron is that Cameron's portrait is (in my opinion) atrocious, while Mondale's isn't. As for precedents, Ted Heath's picture is from 1987, even though he was last Prime Minister around 20 years prior in 1974 and there are lower quality pictures available to use FredMcKinley (talk) 23:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. In the cases of both Heath and Cameron, the pictures used for the infoboxes are high quality and far preferable to alternative options, such as the poor quality Cameron premiership photo. Worth noting also that Margaret Thatcher's portrait, while closer to the time of her premiership than the Heath and Cameron photos, also isn't one taken while she was PM. --ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter (talk) 18:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Similar case with Blair too. Lead image is from after his premiership. A rather low quality official portrait from 1997 is also available, but it isn't used. ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 20:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Disagree. That practice is usually for deceased individuals (i.e. Elizabeth II and Robert Mugabe had modern pictures for their lead images but after their deaths had them changed to historical ones). Even if we ignore that, politicians otherwise tend to have their most recent official portrait used for the lead image, so it would be unwise to make an exception here. While Cameron was likely more notable as PM than Foreign Secretary, the 2010 PM portrait is 14 years out of date and, while he admittedly looks pretty much the same as he did back then, that portrait is also of a rather low quality and looks quite amateur, unlike the 2023 one which actually does look official. For these reasons, I'd much prefer if we kept to the status quo and continued to use the official portrait from 2023 as at present. ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Time we change his lead (infobox) image back to his main portrait as Prime Minister. The 2023 portrait in use worked from November 2023 to July 2024 due to his return to government, but with Labour's victory in this year's general election, they have taken over government. So it's time to bring Cameron's image back to the portrait taken during his time in office as Prime Minister as this was his highest rank and what he is inarguably best known for. 92.236.118.94 (talk) 02:09, 4 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

No, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the more recent image, which is official and of much better quality. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 02:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Every US President has a portrait image from their time in office, to signal their status as a President. This should be the same with UK Prime Ministers. Their time as Prime Minister is more significant than anything else about them. 92.236.118.94 (talk) 19:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, not every US president has a portrait image from their time in office, Herbert Hoover being the most recent example otherwise. The rest of your argument doesn't outweigh image quality. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2024

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Under "Assisted Dying", change the year 2924 to 2024. Samuelucidate (talk) 08:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Already done The AP (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply