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"implied bill of rights"
editIn the Government and politics section of this article, the opening text states that "an implied bill of rights" is a "founding principle of the Canadian government", with a link to this page for further reading. However, that page states the exact opposite: this theory was never taken seriously by the courts, and was in fact explicitly rejected by the Supreme Court of Canada.
I am not sure what the appropriate edit to make to this article is, though, so I will leave that to someone who knows better than I do. Jamesa7171 (talk) 23:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure how to reword this to be more clear....lets first look at how some sources word this....or we can swap out sources to the one below that are more extensive?
- McLachlin, Beverly (Jun 30, 2014). "Human Rights Protection in Canada". Chief justice of Canada.
Canada's experience with human rights. Canada's experience can be divided into three phases: 1) Judicially implied rights; 2) Legislatively protected rights; and 3) Constitutionally protected human rights. Before human rights legislation and the Charter, courts in Canada relied on the theory of an "implied bill of rights" to protect traditional civil liberties such as freedom of speech and association. The theoretical foundation for these rights was the importance of free political speech and discussion in a democracy.
- Jonathon W Penney, Ivan Rand's Ancient Constitutionalism, 2010 34-1&2 Manitoba Law Journal 43, 2010 CanLIIDocs 229, Even today, the judicial work of (Ivan Rand) “one of the greatest— if not the greatest— jurists in Canadian history” 2 remains required reading in law schools; and many of his most important decisions retain a central place in the minds of judges and legal commentators. For example, his judgments in the so-called “Implied Bill of Rights” cases were called the Supreme Court of Canada’s “most distinguished achievements,” 3 “the ‘golden’ moments of the civil liberties decade” 4 and the theory of implied rights described as “valuable”, 5 “one of the most original and provocative contributions ever made to Canadian constitutional law
- Eric H Cline et al, Case Comments: Whither the Implied Bill of Rights? - A.G. Canada and Dupond v. The City of Montreal, Saskatchewan Law Review 137, 1980 CanLIIDocs 227,Much of the concern has focused on the court's changing approach to the Bill of Rights, but the Bill or Rights is not the only protection for civil liberties which has been recognized by the Supreme Court. Switzmann v. Elbing,1 and Saumur v. Attorney General for Quebec2, the leading civil liberties decisions of the 1950's, rested in part on a doctrine created by the court itself: the implied Bill of Rights.
- McLachlin, Beverly (Jun 30, 2014). "Human Rights Protection in Canada". Chief justice of Canada.
- Moxy🍁 05:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Since few people know what an "implied bill of rights" is, it should be explained if it is included at all. The way the paragraph combines different claims about the country is implicit synthesis and should be re-written. It might make more sense to describe the situation as it stood at confederation, then describe the current one.
- Maybe say something like although Canadian confederation did not provide a bill of rights, Canadians were assumed to have the rights traditionally recognized by courts in England. On the other hand, some have argued that peace, order and good government was a defining principle of the new confederation.
- I suggest finding a source that mentions all these things. TFD (talk) 17:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Will add the following source for your synthesis concerns Lajoie, Andrée (Dec 3, 2019). "The Implied Bill of Rights, the Charter and the Role of the Judiciary". University of New Brunswick Law Journal. 44: 337, 339. ISSN 0077-8141. pdf you can read [1]Moxy🍁 08:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- It should be noted that Canada does have (and had at the time) a literal “Bill of Rights”. I point this out as the language should reflect this fact (or not lose sight of it via good faith wording) 142.127.4.14 (talk) 12:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- The founding fathers also believed in the supremacy of the British constitution, which they believed guaranteed certain rights such such as the right to own weapons. TFD (talk) 16:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I see there's great confusion over this so I've gone ahead and added information with sources for more extensive information at Implied bill of rights this way the linked article can explain better. Moxy🍁 00:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- The founding fathers also believed in the supremacy of the British constitution, which they believed guaranteed certain rights such such as the right to own weapons. TFD (talk) 16:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 September 2024
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Add the term of Dominion of Canada which is still the official name of the country. (See the Constitutional Act of 1867 for references). Maillymarcantoine653 (talk) 16:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done. See talk page archives for extensive discussion on this topic and the consensus is it not any longer considered by anyone other than old documentation to be the official name of the country. Canterbury Tail talk 18:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Update Canadian population
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Update Canadian population from 41,012,563 (2024 Q2) to 41,288,599 (2024 Q3). It's from the same source, whic has been updated (Population estimates, quarterly). ZeusMinerva25 (talk) 13:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)