Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Safwat Ghayur: Difference between revisions

'''Strong Delete''' I agree that this person was one of the brilliant police officers in Pakistan but he is not notable to be placed here. He was a Grade-20 Police Officers, those we have around 3000 in entire Pakistan, only. He was the 58th Commandant of [[Frontier Constabulary]], we never had article about any of the first 57s. The article also seems to story of a Magazine or Newspaper, especially written and edited in favour the martyred and beloved Safwat Ghayoor, rather a simple article. There are even no citations for many claims. --[[User:TurnWorst|TurnWorst]] ([[User talk:TurnWorst|talk]]) 09:35, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

:'''Strong Keep''' I can only say that this one time editor has come back to haunt my articles by unnecessarily nominating them for deletion. This martyred Officer was a Vanguard against the current fight against Terrorism. One of his junior [[Malik Saad]], who was also martyred in a suicide bomb blast has also been graced with an entry on [[Wikipedia]]. A simple Google with his name will yield thousands of results as seen over here [http://www.google.com.pk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADRA_enPK346PK347&q=Safwat+ghayur]. Perhaps the sentiments of the entire [[Pashtun]] population can be summed up in this article which recently appeared in a leading daily of Pakistan [http://pakistannewsblog.com/a-hero-who-died-with-his-boots-on-%E2%80%93-a-tribute-to-safwat-ghayur/]. This nomination is nothing else but a joke and based entirely on bad faith, perhaps as a sore retaliation to my earlier blocking of certain vanity entries of this user's sock puppets. I recommend a '''strong keep''' to honour this commander of War against Terrorism. --<font style="color:#00FF00;background:#191970;">[[User:Marwatt|'''&nbsp;MARWAT&nbsp;''']]</font> 11:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

::Dear --<font style="color:#00FF00;background:#191970;">[[User:Marwatt|'''&nbsp;MARWAT&nbsp;''']]</font>, please comment on objections raised by me instead of hanky pankies. [[Malik Saad]] was much Sr. to '''Safwat Ghayur''', you are wrong. [[Malik Saad]] has an article because he is recepient of '''Presidential Medal'''. Malik Saad, whom you have given as a reference in support of this article was CCPO (Capial City Police Officer), an officer of Grade-20. Let me know how many other CCPOs of Pakistan are having article here on Wikpedia? None, as they doesn't qualify as per WP Notability. Please see the deletion log for aother CCPO [[Abdul Majeed Khan Marwat]]. The only distinguish between Malik Saad and other CCPOs is Presidential Medal. As far as Safwat is concerned he, no qualm, was a second name of gallant and also the frontline soldier in War Against Terror. But what makes him so notable? Just google, yahoo and other search engines? I am a journalist myself, as my articles are published on various internet sites, different newspapers and magazines, my name will bear links to hundreds of websites where I am given very good place but it doesn't mean that I am too notable having name on search engine at hundreds of places. Why not Safwat Ghayur, ex-Commandant of [[Frontier Constabulary]] having an article before his martyrdom, if he was so notable? Just martyrdom makes him notable? If yes, then where are the articles of 600 other polie officers, 7-10 thousands of soldiers and many civilians who were martyred in War Against Terror? If being Commandant [[FC]] makes him so notable so where are the articles about the previous Commandants from the times of [[British Raj]] till December 2009, till the transfer of last Commandant Zafar ul Lah Khan, who was even serving in Grade-21 and is even promoted to the level of [[Director General]] of [[FIA]]? Why are you quoting a blog's link by terming it a leading newspaper? Wikipedia is not a racial forum or sentimental avenue where one culd presurrise and break the laws. I think rather arguing on a baseless thing with baseless arguments, we must spare time for creating healthy articles. --[[User:TurnWorst|TurnWorst]] ([[User talk:TurnWorst|talk]]) 19:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

::::The government has announced so far and not hooured him with the [[Sitara-i-Shujaat]]. Even if it is honoured, like it is honoured to thousands of men and women, does it make him notable? Where are the articles about the rest of recepeitns of the same awards? I agree Safwat was from 9th common and Malik Saad from 17th but who was promoted first to Grade-20? It was Malik Saad. So Safwat stands Jr to him. Malik Saad was CCPO back in 2006 and Safwat became in 2008-09. '''I request to closing editor''', that for a while curse be upon me if I am the same person with whom my fellow is confusing me with, but just examine and go-through the objections I have raised here about the non-notability. Were they replied or answered accordingly? Attacking me, rather answering my querries shows that how much intrest was there to create a non-notable and personal liked article. --[[User:TurnWorst|TurnWorst]] ([[User talk:TurnWorst|talk]]) 06:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

'''Attention Closing Editor(s) / Administrators''' Please go to the following links, where --<font style="color:#00FF00;background:#191970;">[[User:Marwatt|'''&nbsp;MARWAT&nbsp;''']]</font> is asking, pleading and requesting his fellows to cast their vote in the favour of this article. This shows how biasedly this article [[Safwat Ghayur]] was created. He have no solid answers about the objections I raised. Please follow and see the following <br>

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The Operators / Admns and Closing Edtior could now him/herself understand that who is setling the scores and who is righteous. --[[User:TurnWorst|TurnWorst]] ([[User talk:TurnWorst|talk]]) 06:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)