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:Don't waste your time on those not worthy of anyone's time. Better educate yourself on the very shaky ground of ISO standards, and SIL International in particular, which is simply a group of uniformed zealots (the interview is in Croatian): https://www.hkv.hr/razgovori/41250-razgovor-s-prof-dr-sc-marijem-grcevicem-o-hrvatskom-jeziku-u-normama-medunarodne-organizacije-za-normizaciju-iso-i-djelovanju-organizacije-sil-international.html Long story short: a) it would be best to cancel the term "macro-language"- which is not dissimilar from Dachsprache- as a cover term for standard languages Croatian, Bosnian,... because they do not meet the term's requirements, b) it would be appropriate to define Croatian as a macro-language. [[User:Mir Harven|Mir Harven]] ([[User talk:Mir Harven|talk]]) 12:40, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
::And don't waste your time with nationalistic, nonlinguistic arguments. Remember that linguistic reality is not dictated by SIL and ISO 639-3. While Glottolog uses the broader label for this language, [https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/sout1528 "Serbian-Croatian-Bosnian"], it is still identical linguistically to the language "Serbo-Croatian" as defined by ISO 639-3--a pluricentric language. It is a linguistic reality whether you like the other people who speak your language or not. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|TaivoLinguist (Taivo)]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 01:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
:::This is a pseudo-linguistic charlatan organization that will be fully exposed as parasitic ideological agitprop as I write. Such "arguments" are worthless- no linguistic theory has come up with decisive rules which are pluri-centric languages, and which are close, but different languages. Linguistics is completely incapable of clearly defining its own terms. It uses double standards when defining that Hindi and Urdu are not parts of any pluricentric language, nor are Malaysian and Indonesian. It deviates from its own, loosely & imprecisely norms for pluricentirc languages (German, English, French,..). Croatian and Serbian are well defined languages, both with history of ca. 1000 years, which don't overlap more than 0.01% in their corpora,not more than German and Dutch. Even Wayles Browne, the last Mohican of Serbo-Croatism, had given up. Is there a single serious linguistic work that had appeared in the past 30 years on "Serbo-Croatian" (grammar, syntax, vocabulary, accentuation, orthography, pragmalinguistics, stylistics, morphology, language study,..? Or- is there a single serious philological work in the past 500 years that is '''both''' Croatian and Serbian? No such thing. [[User:Mir Harven|Mir Harven]] ([[User talk:Mir Harven|talk]]) 22:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)