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==Cleanup request==
This category has too many articles; they need to be sorted into new subcategories. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] 23:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Agreed. See [[Talk:Sociology/Archive. All talk before December 21, 2008#Category cleanup]].--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup>[[User_talk:Piotrus|<
::Have begun this task by creating 10 main subcategories and sorting various articles into them (see below). It still needs a lot of work, to go through the remaining articles and move them into the appropriate category, as well as coming up with some more logical subcategories. Some suggestions have been made below and also on [[Talk:Sociology]]. I have also created [[:Category:Articles not related to sociology]] to help clear them out of here if they don't belong. See [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sociology#Clean_up_of_Category:Sociology|here]] for discussion of tasks on WikiProject Sociology. [[User:JenLouise|JenLouise]] 02:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
== Sub categories ==
Is it usual for sub catgeories to be spread across different pages by the letters of listed articles below rather than being in their own list? It makes it very hard to understand what subcategories there are. <
:If you want all subcategories to be forced to be on the first page on Cat:Sociology, you need to edit them to the following form: <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever| ]]</nowiki>. Similarly if you want an article on, let's say, structural functionalism, to be listed not at s but at f in a given category, you would edit it to say <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever|F]]</nowiki>. As for alphabet listing of cats, I think you mean something like {{tl|compactTOC}}? I am not sure if this can be done, perhaps you should ask at [[Wikipedia:Categories]].--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup>[[User_talk:Piotrus|<
::Are people likely to have problems with me moving all the subcategories to the first page? To me it just makes much more sense to be able to see all of the subcategories immediately. Especially once our subcategories are systematic. [[User:JenLouise|JenLouise]] 01:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I can't disagree with that.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup>[[User_talk:Piotrus|<
:::* I have moved some sociology sub categories to the top of the list. These are generic subcategories, such as Branches of sociology or Sociology books. I think non-generic ones are fine in alphabetical order. I have used <nowiki>[[Category:Sociology| 01]], [[Category:Sociology| 02]]</nowiki> etc to order them. [[User:JenLouise|JenLouise]] 05:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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==Discussion of proposed changes==
:Sounds good, let's start cleaning this up. However I am not happy with the 'Sociological Organisation' name (aren't all organizations sociological?). Perhaps 'Organizations of sociologists' or 'Sociological associations' or 'Sociological research organizations' would be better...--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup>[[User_talk:Piotrus|<
::Yes Associations was the word I was looking for. I have changed it above. <
:::Actually we alread have [[:Category:Sociology journals]] and there are quite a few publications (many more not yet even stubbed on Wiki).--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup>[[User_talk:Piotrus|<
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Can this be added to the list? I would assume that it fits...[[User:Silver seren|Silver seren]] 15:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|Be bold]]...--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<
:: I would, but when I try to edit...it looks weird. O_o So I can't find the place it goes in...[[User:Silver seren|Silver seren]] 16:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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:::I think this distinction is important and this is what those of us that participated in the sociological category debate decided. (yes only two people were part of the discussion specifically, but many more read and felt no need to comment against the decisions reached.) If we can come up with a better way, then by all means! [[User:JenLouise|JenLouise]] 04:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps '''Sociological Disciplines''' or '''Sociological Traditions''' would be better than sociological paradigms? [[User:JenLouise|JenLouise]] 05:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
::::(Some of the following restates a few points you've made. Just looking more at this use of paradigm...) Well, it seems like this is a good place to talk about sociological paradigms vs. theory in terms of article titles. Perhaps it is a different issue to talk about category labels. It seems to me that in addition to "theory" that "framework" or "perspective" could be used as a term to refer to a wide range of theory/theories. I don't think paradigm works in that way. A paradigm is a broad topic that has some consensus, usually. There are narrow theories and wider general groups of theory - just like sets, small sets, big sets. Marxism is not a paradigm -- there are dialetical marxisms, economic determinist marxisms, cultural marxisms, feminist marxisms, etc. Same for feminism -- a diverse array of non-paradigmatic theories. So, I don't think we should use paradigm in this sense -- to group types of theory.
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:::::So. For several reasons, I think a better solution here might be one of two options:
:::::First option: collapse sociological theory and sociological paradigms into the term social theory. All of this is social theory. Theories can be specific and general. I don't know if this is an ideal solution. It is simpler. I prefer the next option.
:::::Second option: replace "sociological paradigms" with "social theory" or "social theory (sociology)". Why? 1) In origins and often currently, sociological theory is a subset of, and relies very much on, a wide range of cross-/inter-disciplinary social theory. 2) Sociologists use interdisciplinary social theory extensively. 3) Sociological theory and social theory are sometimes conflated but social theory is the more encompassing term that includes marxism, feminism, etc. (These later should not be labelled as sociological paradigms, due to the meaning of "sociological" and "paradigms".)
::::::I'm keeping this discussion string intact: we do not have a debate -- I agree on this. I overstated -- it is a snap shot of my thinking at one point in considering this. -- Reswik
::::::With regard to this suggestion regarding social theory, I don't think that is appropriate at all. Social theory is very much an inter-disciplinary field I agree, it cross cultural theory, sociology, anthropology and many more. However, Sociology is quite distinct from social theory as a discipline, although there may be cross-over at a more detailed level among some of the particular theories. I don't think it would be appropriate to rename other discplines's pages (eg. anthropology, cultural theory, etc) as Social theory (anthropology), social theory (cultural theory) etc, and so I don't think merging sociological theories and social theories is appropriate. [[User:JenLouise|JenLouise]] 06:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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This matter has been raised on the [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sociology#ideas_for_diffusing_Category:Sociology.3F|Sociology project page]]. Having briefly read previous discussions above, I suppose one could create new subcategories for [[:Category:Methods in sociology]] to complement the existing [[:Category:Sociological_theories]]. There might also be a subcategory [[:Category:Applied sociology]], for something more specific than 'Sociology topics'. This subcategory could itself be subcategorized. Along with other existing subcategories, this might serve to weed out articles a bit more. Open to further discussion. [[User:Meclee|Meclee]] ([[User talk:Meclee|talk]]) 04:29, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Thinking out loud: [[:Category:Sociology in action]] for pages like: [[Bud_Billiken_Club]]... [[User:Meclee|Meclee]] ([[User talk:Meclee|talk]]) 04:53, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
:Tentatively support, with the exception of sociology in action, which seems simply a different name for applied sociology. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<
:[[:Category:Methods in sociology]] should really replace [[:Category:Social sciences methodology]] directly in [[:Category:Sociology]] [[User:Brad7777|Brad7777]] ([[User talk:Brad7777|talk]]) 16:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
The 'Sociological terms' category page states "This category relates to sociological terms as opposed to sociological concepts." What is the reason that this subcategory cannot include both terms and concepts? Meclee (talk) 23:27, 11 February 2012 (UTC) [[User:Meclee|Meclee]] ([[User talk:Meclee|talk]]) 23:29, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
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