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[edit]Dobra, miasta przeniesione, obecnie przenoszę wsie z Category:Villages in Poland by region do Category:Villages in Poland by voivodeship. Teraz trzeba przenosić miasta i wsie z Category:Cities in Poland i Category:Villages in Poland do podkategorii. Najlepiej będzie robić to porządnie, czyli:
- od razu 2 kategorie: "cities/villages in (województwo)" oraz "powiat/gmina xxx"
- chyba nie warto przenosić stron i grafik, lepiej zrobić kategorię i wtedy przenieść
Tak mi się wydaje, że będzie najlepiej. Yarl ✉ 16:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
No właśnie, co z Category:Villages in powiat kościerski, jak dla mnie to zbędne. Yarl ✉ 19:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- W sumie ponoć w Polsce jest ponad 40k wsi ([1]), wychodzi ponad 2,5k na województwo. Myślę, że jedna kategoria do tego starczy, jeszcze ktoś wpadnie na zrobienie kategorii "wsie w gminie xxx". Yarl ✉ 19:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Co do pozostałych pomysłów: myślę, że trzeba też uświadamiać, napisać co nieco na wiki, jak kategoryzujemy wsie i miasta. Możemy wpisać się do roboty bez laurów ([2]), może ktoś będzie do pomocy. Ja na bieżąco próbuję te gminy dodawać byleby cośtam w nich było. Puste mogą polecieć hurtem, tym bardziej że mają teraz nową zabawkę. Zresztą Polacy na Commons za dobrej opinii nie mają... A co do nazw: ja kategorię nazywam tak samo jak artykuł w wiki, wtedy nie ma wątpliwości o co chodzi. Yarl ✉ 19:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Hej, czemu nie piszesz, że idziesz na admina? Daj info na pl.wiki. Yarl ✉ 16:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ja już tam swoje wiem :), do G to i tak dużo. W weekend też trochę poprzerzucam wiosek, na razie grzebię w wikisłowniku. W sumie też myślę o adminie, przydatna sprawa. Yarl ✉ 19:44, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]Myślę, że można zgrupować to w Category:Koło, chociaż są też inne wsie o tej nazwie. No ale w sumie to jest miasto, niech będzie się wyróżniać. Jak pojawią się zdjęcia z tych wsi to można dać {{seealso}}
. Yarl ✉ 15:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Aha, większość z Category:Categories in Poland by voivodeship jest już przeniesiona, do końca tygodnia załatwię resztę. Yarl ✉ 15:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Przeniesiesz: User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands? Yarl ✉ 19:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Co do Category:Buildings in Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship i podobnych: castles, churches i ruins też chyba wrzucamy na samą górę? Wtedy pod literami będą tylko "Buildings in xxx". Co o tym myślisz? Przy okazji: [3]. Yarl ✉ 14:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Fajnie, każda pomoc się przyda. Yarl ✉ 16:16, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]Możesz zobaczyć tę stronę? Opis licencji wydaje mi się wątpliwy. Nie działam na Commons, nie wiem, co się dalej z tym robi. Bocianski (talk) 18:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Tylko że ja nie chciałem zgłaszać jej do usunięcia, tylko wyjaśnić sprawę bez tego kroku, ale widocznie nie ma takich praktyk. Bocianski (talk) 07:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Napisałem autorowi, że zdjęcie zostało usunięte. On odpisał, że to zdjęcie jego przodka, z albumu rodzinnego. Może spróbujesz go jakoś pokierować, co ma robić, żeby opisy i licencje były OK? Szkoda zrażać użytkownika, musi mu być przykro. A zdjęcie zrobione w 1863 roku będzie przecież na PD. Wygląda na to, że to jest właśnie to zdjęcie, za które młody człowiek usłyszał zarzut i między innymi za nie został stracony (opisane w haśle). Naprawdę szkoda tej sprawy. Bocianski (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I have reverted your reversion of this file. The OTRS is invalid, as the author of the OTRS was untruthful in his claims. Please read Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Attention#Require immediate attention, Commons:Deletion requests/Images by Lavelk from Photobucket, all the threads linked within them, and go through User talk:Nyo for the history. Jappalang (talk) 08:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- CC demands for the correct attribution of author, i.e. one should not claim that the work belongs to him or her when it is by another. Images are to be properly attributed here. Since you are disputing this, I am bringing this image to Deletion Requests. Jappalang (talk) 21:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ordinarily I would agree; however, the filename is in the PNG format. The original is in JPG. There is something wrong here if we use the PNG for the original work. As you can see, they are of two different sizes (in terms of file sizes for equal resolution). Jappalang (talk) 22:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]Witam. tutaj ciężko mówić o POVie, bo przecież taki region istnieje, a nie jest np. moim wymysłem. Zostawiłbym tą kategorię z dwóch powodów: przede wszystkim jest to kategoria ponadpaństwowa, skupiająca śląskie miasta z Polski i Czech (według niektórych podziałów również ze skrawka Niemiec) i dzięki temu można od razu zobaczyć, że jest to jeden region, przekraczający granice państwowe.. Ani np. Mazowsze ani Podlasie nie wykraczają poza granice Polski. po drugie podział tylko według województw sprawia, że nie tylko w Polsce ale i za granicą wszystkim się wydaje, że jak coś leży w województwie ślaskim to automatycznie jest to Śląsk! czas z tym skończyć i właśnie kategoria tego typu ma dodatkową wartość edukacyjną. poza tym istnieją np. kategorie typu Category:Cities by the Vistula lub według innych kryteriów. zauważ zresztą, że na wikipedii jest taka kategoria (zresztą w 4 wersjach językowych), zbierająca miasta polskie i czeskie, są kategorie typu Pałace Śląska, odpowiednie szablony i temu podobne rzeczy. tak więc w przypadku akurat tego regionu, leżącego w 4 województwach i 2 (lub 3) krajach ponad administracyjna kategoria wydaje mi się rozsądna. pozdrawiam Pudelek (talk) 13:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- no, z tym brakiem granic to przesada - poza dyskusją czy dawny powiat łużycki należy przypisać do Śląska czy nie to są one jasno określone. jeśli są dyskusyjne w stosunku np. do Rusi to nie powinno mieć związku ze Śląskiem. w ten sposób można by de facto usunąć całą kategorię Silesia albo np. Spisz czy inne regionalne... Łatwo jest sprawdzić w jakiej gminie leży dana wieś, ale w regionie — często nie da się tego określić. no i właśnie dlatego w tym przypadku taka kategoria jest potrzebna. bo sugerując się zdjęciami z kategorii województwa śląskiego w jakimś artykule pojawi się informacja, że leży on na Śląsku. i właśnie argument, że mamy do czynienia z szerszym zagadnieniem, wykraczającym poza granicę jednego kraju, należałoby się tutaj zastanowić. sugeruję też zasięgnąć opinii jeszcze jakiś osób --Pudelek (talk) 14:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- ale dlaczego niby nie będzie kompletna? miast śląskich nie jest nieskończenie dużo, jest to ograniczona liczba. podobnie nie bardzo rozumiem argument typu, że ponieważ ktoś nie chce pracować nad inną kategorią, to tej też nie może być... przecież fakt istnienia jednej kategorii nie może zależeć od tego, czy podobna kategoria jest zaniedbana czy też "aktywna"... --Pudelek (talk) 15:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- co do wsi to taka kategoria istnieje :) wojny toczyć o to nie zamierzam, po prostu, według mnie oczywiście, taka kategoria ma merytoryczne uzasadnienie. I nie chodzi tutaj o jakieś propagowanie śląskości, bo fakt istnienia Śląska raczej nie jest przez nikogo negowany, ale pewną formę uporządkowania (niezależną od innych kategorii). co do kuriozalności sytuacji, że jeden region jest lepiej rozbudowany a drugi mniej to jest to chyba też wskazówka z której części Polski ludzie najbardziej się angażują w pracę (bo jakoś tak wychodzi, że z reguły ludzie pracują bardzo ochotnie przy kategoriach im bliskich, z innymi róznie ;D) z galeryjką jest ten problem, że żeby przejść od jednego zdjęcia do innych to czasem też trzeba trochę czasu, jeśli jest tylko jedno zdjęcie reprezentatywne. co do dyskusji to rzeczywiście muszę zarchiwizować, bo i mnie się już tnie... --Pudelek (talk) 16:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hej, ciachniesz kategorię? Yarl ✉ 17:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Cześć. Dlaczego przeniosłeś to pod "Category:Gmina Słubice (powiat słubicki)". Przede wszystkim kategoria na Commons powinna odpowiadać tej z Wikipedii. Na Wikipedii uznano, że Słubice to w domyśle te z Lubuskiego. Jest o wiele bardziej znana od tej pod Płockiem i pisząc o Słubicach na z dużą dozą prawdopodobieństwa chodzi o Słubice w Lubuskiem. Na Wiki ani gmina ani samo miasto nie mają dodatków w tytule. A nawet jeśli ktoś wpadłby na mało inteligentny pomysł, by rozgraniczyć te 2 gminy uzupełnieniem nazw kategorii, to dlaczego błędne włączenie powiatów do nazw gmin? W pierszej kolejności konkretyzuje się przytoczeniem województwa w nawiasie, a dopiero gdy w danym województwie są conajmniej 2 gminy/ miejscowości o tej samej nazwie to schodzi się do poziomu powiatu. Popraw to po sobie, bo w tej chwili nazewnictwo kategorii jest błędne. Pozdrawiam Cybinka (talk) 18:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Chodzi o kompletny brak konsekwencji. Na Wikipedii jest artykuł "Słubice" a nie "Słubice (powiat słubicki)" czy "Słubice (województwo lubuskie)" a w tytule gminy nawias dziwnym trafem się pojawia - błędnie zarówno na Wikipedii jak i Commons, to fakt. Tak jak już powiedziałem - jeśli już to w nawiasie powinno być województwo lubuskie a nie powiat słubicki, więc po co przywracasz błędna wersję? Zapytaj kogoś, kto zajmuje się tytulaturą artykułów o miejscowościach na polskiej Wikipedii, bodajże Lajsikonika. On powinien potwierdzić, że mam rację co do poprawności uściślania (najpierw województwo, a w drugiej kolejności powiat). Cybinka (talk) 04:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]Hej, przerzucisz Commons:Centrum koordynacji tłumaczeń/MediaWiki:Uploadtext/pl do MediaWiki:Uploadtext/pl. Przy okazji rzuć okiem, czy wszystko jest OK. Yarl ✉ 19:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Szablon nie do przetłumaczenia? Nie ma takiej rury na świecie... :). Trzeba tylko zrobić polską wersję {{Language}}, a to jest trochę roboty. Yarl ✉ 21:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]O to "czyszczenie w j. polskim, prosił mnie jeden z Administratorów z Wikimediów.
dziękuję za zainteresowanie uporządkowaniem kategorii. Można by jednak Twoje działania ulepszyć i tak np. zdjęć pana Grzegorza Woźniaka jest na tyle dużo, że może mieć on własną kategorię. Co więcej kategoria ta powinna znajdować się także w: * 1968 births (bo wtedy się urodził) * Members of Prawo i Sprawiedliwość (bo jest politykiem tej partii, ta kategoria zastępuje politicians of Poland, oraz Prawo i Sprawiedliowść * Powiat garwoliński (ponieważ działa na terenie tego powiatu). Kontynując ten przykład, to zjdęcie G. Woźniaka z biskupem, powinno trafić do kategorii biskupów oraz do kategorii miejca jego wykonania (Miętne należy do gminy Garwolin).
A kto to jest Grzegorz Woźniak? Rozumie, że jest to lokalny polityk. Czyli powinien być lokalnie w danej gminie i w danej partii, to wszystko. Inaczej tworzymy setki tysięcy polityków lokalnych w kategoriach które przystaną być czytelne. Dojdziemy do tego, że kilka milionów ludzi w Polsce coś działało politycznie i tworzymy kategorie zaśmiecone. Tym bardziej, ze nazwy poszczególnych zdjęć też w wiekszości nie są informatywne. Swoja droga to tylko on tam był wpisany przez omyłkę.
Jeśli trafisz na zdjęcie kościoła w kategorii województw (np. mazowieckiego) to nie wrzucasz go z tamtąd, tylko dodajesz to kategorii churches in Masovian Voivodehsip. Tak samo galerie ze zdjęciami wsi mają pewne prawo być w kategoriach villages in ... voivodeship.
To jest dublowanie w kategoriach, jeżeli dane zdjęcie jest już w jakiejś gminie a ta gmina w danym województwie, W ten sposób to możemy umieszczać każde zdjęcie w kategorii wsi, dalej w gminie w której jest ta wies, w powiecie, w województwie, państwie i tak dalej.
Proszę sobie to przemyśleć.--WlaKom (talk) 09:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
1)Twój argument o setkach tysięcy polityków jest nie słuszny. To jeden z nielicznych politików który ma aż 4 zdjęcia. 4 zdjęcia to dość, żeby mieć kategorię. Każde z tych zdjęć może być na commons, więc trzeba je po prostu uporządkować.
Ja nie neguję, że ma mieć swoją kategorię. Z tym się zgadzam. Nazwisko -> Miejsce gdzie działa. I to wszystko. Może jeszcze w w swojej kategorii partyjnej, ale tego też nie jestem pewien. Ale nie mogę zrozumieć sensu w dopisywaniu go i jemu podobnych, do gigantycznych "śmietników", takich jak "rok urodzenia" czy "wszyscy politycy". Uważam, że powinno to być karane :-). Tego nikt nie jest w stanie przejrzeć. Chyba, że ze snobizmu, mogę się pochwalić, że jestem wpisany w dziesiątkach nieistotnych kategoriach. IMHO, tworzenie podkategorii ma wtedy sens jedli trzymamy się tego sztywno i nie wkładamy hasła we wszystkie kategorie jakie są na Wikipedii, tylko w najbardziej sensowne i czytelne. Jeżeli ja interesuję się politykiem Woźniakiem, to będę go szukał TYLKO w jego rejonie i tam tylko powinien być. Co daje, że jego zdjęcia są wpisane w kategorii "rok urodzenia"? Nic. Chyba, że ma jakieś dokonania na skalę światową lub państwową.--WlaKom (talk) 10:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Powstaje śmietnik w postaci kategorii urodzeni w 1962 r., owszem, ale albo cała kategoria będzie usunięta, albo będziemy się trzymać jeden z podstawowych zasad wiki. --sfu (talk) 10:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
No właśnie. Czy nie powinno się tej kategorii "urodzeni w ..." usunąć? Wczoraj zauważyłem, przenosząc zdjęcia gminne/wiejskie, że wiele kategorii się dubluje, nazwy po polsku, spolszczone lub angielskie. "Gminy" "gminas", "powiaty", "powiats", "Powiats in Masovian Voivodeship", "Masovian Voivodeship" itd. Czy nie lepiej jakoś to usystematyzować. 1. Nazwy po polsku czy po angielsku. 2. Ujednolicić podkategorie i poprzenosić do najniższej podkategorii, a zbędne usunąć, aby ludzie widzieli jasną i logiczna strukturę. Kolega chciał dołożyć zdjęcie ale się poddał ze względu na kategorie. Ja osobiście mogę trochę w tym pomóc, jeśli chodzi o miejscowości. Np. wrzucając do najniższej podkategorii "gmina .." dla ułatwienia, a później można byłoby już pozdzelić na poszczególne miasta lub wsie.--WlaKom (talk) 11:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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