Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Coentor
Commons:Derivative works from modern art. Does Commons:Freedom of panorama in source country allows this?
EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Keep Per previous discussion. FoP in Spain validates this use. If Android Commons Was better, the files could have been automatically been properly licensed.--Coentor (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)- Keep per the previous discussion - photos of the falles and the graffiti are both fine according to Spanish law --moogsi (blah) 18:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Delete It is clear that many of these works are not "Works permanently located in parks or on streets, squares or other public thoroughfares" as required. I have only looked at a few, but some are located in the middle of intersections and others actually have a crane over them, or are actually being moved. They are clearly only temporarily where they are shown.- Thoses work does not longer exist. They were BURNED the past 19th of march. ¿Have You read the previous discussion and what the Spanish Law says about works situated permanently in public ways? Street paintings, ice, sand, or snow sculptures rarely last more than a few days or weeks. If they're left in public space for their natural lifetime, they are considered "permanent" all the same.. The fallas are left in public space for their natural lifespan (from 15 to 19 of March). Then, they are burned. Any of those works does exist today. ¿Weren't they permanently situed in the public space during it whole lifespan?--Coentor (talk) 11:54, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
FoP: Permanent vs temporary: The exhibited objects must be exhibited in a permanent way. If a work is presented on a public place temporarily, one may be obliged to get the explicit permission to take its picture. Whether a work is installed at a public place permanently or not is not a question of absolute time, but a question of what the intention was when the work was placed there. If it was put there with the intention of leaving it in the public place indefinitely or at least for the whole natural lifetime of the work, then it is "permanent".--Coentor (talk) 12:03, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Aha. Thank you for a clear and convincing explanation. You are entirely correct that in most countries "permanent" includes ice, snow, sand, and butter sculptures which may have a very short life. I am very glad that I simply left a comment rather than just deleting them all. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:37, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Well, You're welcome. I know that everyone does not necessarily know what are the falles, how they work (and the most difficult thing: How the Spanish law over FoP applies on it.).--Coentor (talk) 11:09, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Kept: . . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I restored these per this undeletion request as they were summarily deleted as out of scope without a full DR or even a deletion nomination (i.e., a second pair of eyes.) The deletion, however, appeared proper as these are of questionable use (e.g., the top of the woman's head) and likely not realistically educational when we have File:Resaca a València - 19.jpeg and File:Resaca a València - 20.jpeg. Accordingly, I consider this a procedural issue so they can be deleted in good form.
Эlcobbola talk 16:41, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep She designing/drawing. Its the only realistic way to illustrate her work without infringing any copyright. --Coentor (talk) 16:44, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Those are book convention shots; these are action shots of her at work, or at least while drawing. They're not really substitutable for each other.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Comment These files are entirely unrelated to the previous DR of the same name. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:25, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Keep I see no reason to delete these. They show her at work -- what's out of scope about that? . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:25, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
No consensus to delete -FASTILY 07:28, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
No Commons:Freedom of panorama in Spain for temporary displays.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:37, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. At the very begining of this page You have a previous discussion about this very kind of pictures.--Coentor (talk) 00:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- FoP: Permanent vs temporary: The exhibited objects must be exhibited in a permanent way. If a work is presented on a public place temporarily, one may be obliged to get the explicit permission to take its picture. Whether a work is installed at a public place permanently or not is not a question of absolute time, but a question of what the intention was when the work was placed there. If it was put there with the intention of leaving it in the public place indefinitely or at least for the whole natural lifetime of the work, then it is "permanent".
--Coentor (talk) 00:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Kept: These are burned at the end of the festival, so they are on display throughout their short life. "Permanent" includes ice, snow, sand, butter, and other works which may have a very short life. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)