Commons:Deletion requests/2024/10/04
October 4
editFiles uploaded by ARABCREATOR7 (talk · contribs)
editOut of scope: As a general rule, national flags should not be used to represent languages, as they unavoidably fail to represent minority languages, and are prone to invoking nationalist disputes. Using a single national flag (like that of Saudi Arabia, in this case) to represent the Arabic language is especially problematic, as the language doesn't have a well-defined country of origin.
Omphalographer (talk) 01:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
deleting my files saying "Using a single national flag (like that of Saudi Arabia, in this case) to represent the Arabic language is especially problematic" is strange,
What about combined flags like this one? 
. It's out there in WIKIMEDIA COMMONS and no one deleted it! Is it okay if I combine two flags and ignore all the other countries' flags that speak English like Canada just because I combined two of them? so 1 flag is bad. 2 is good. and 3 is not necessary? what logic is this?
My reasons for choosing the Saudi flag to represent the Arabic language:
- Saudi Arabia is the largest country in the Arabian Peninsula, which is the recognized homeland of Arabs.
- The Saudi flag is already used as a symbol for Arabic in countless games, websites, movies, apps, books, etc., so everybody is familiar with it.
- The other Arab countries have similar colors in their flags (red, white, black), which can be confusing, and it can be difficult to identify which country is which, and is it Arabian or not?. In contrast, Saudi Arabia has a simple and distinctive green flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARABCREATOR7 (talk • contribs) 06:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
my point is: if you gonna delete the files you need to delete this Combined flags too, or give a good explanation. ARABCREATOR7 (talk) 05:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete Per the nominator. The Arabic language didn't originate in Saudi Arabia and it's not even in the top five countries where the language is spoken. That would go to Egypt, where there's like 4 times as many people who speak Arabic then there are in Saudi Arabia. I think Saudi Arabia is like six or seventh by population who speak the language. So you could just as easily argue it should be the flag of Morocco, Sudan, Algeria, Iraq, or again Egypt. There's nothing particularly special about Saudi Arabia here. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to be racist or offend anyone, but among Arabs, you can call someone 'Arab' if they come from Arab tribes and have Arab lineage. Most Arab tribes are found in the Arabian Peninsula, such as the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia, as well as in small parts of Iraq, Syria, and Jordan. The people in Egypt are Copts and do not have Arab lineage. We love them, but that's the reality; even they know it and agree with me.
- If a Chinese man speaks Arabic, that doesn't make him Arab. And if entire China (1.412 billion people) speaks Arabic, that makes them Arabic speakers, but it doesn't make them Arabs.
- Arabs are tribes, and you find them mostly in the Arabian Peninsula, What's is the biggest country in it? Saudi.
- Otherwise, you wouldn't see famous websites and major companies using the Saudi flag as a symbol for the language without reason, or you will be saying to the world "You all wrong, and i'm right".
- I swear to you that I am neither biased nor racist; I am simply trying to explain why the flags of Egypt or Iraq or Morocco are not used as symbols for the Arabic language. ARABCREATOR7 (talk) 05:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- I am simply trying to explain why the flags of Egypt or Iraq or Morocco are not used as symbols for the Arabic language. That's because there isn't a flag for the Arabic language in the first place. The only reason there's one in this case is because you created it. There's a reason why if I do a Google search for "flag of Arabic language" most of the results are for Commons or another website for user created flags though. Otherwise you get results like this one to Reddit where there's comments like "I've seen many people use different flags to represent the Arabic language" or "in Israel I saw Arabic represented by the Jordanian flag." This discussion on Quora about which flag represents the Arabic language. To quote from it "there is no flag for the Arabic language." Etc. Etc. The fact is that there is no "flag of the Arabic language" except ones created by users of Commons or similar websites for reason's that are pretty obvious. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Unused photo of non-notable group, no educational value, out of scope. P 1 9 9 ✉ 02:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- At least, the photo shows the sign of the "Home of Faith Charitable Trust". Please keep. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 07:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Adamant1 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Clearly COPYVIO since there's no FOP in Ukraine and the artist hasn't been dead for more then 70 years since it was created after World War 2. Converting to DR per COM:CSD#F3. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the source is listed as "Own work" but the photographer is not the creator of the sculpture. The copyright for a sculpture in the Ukraine seems to be 70 years after the death of the sculptor,[1] Rjjiii (talk) 04:18, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by MHernandezp05 as Copyvio (Copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: |source=https://tiempo.hn/gobierno-entregara-premios-martires-resistencia-8-periodistas/palacio_jose_cecilio_del_valle-3/. Upload is from 2021, link is undated, should be discussed. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:45, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by MHernandezp05 as Copyvio (Copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: |source=https://xn--hondurasradiotvturstica-jfc.com/lago-de-yojoa/. Old upload from 2012, would otherwise decline per COM:AGF but uploader has other uploads which are confirmed copyvio, should be discussed. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Adamant1 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: There's no FOP in Ukraine and this was created in 1975. So it's clearly COPYVIO. Converting to DR per COM:CSD#F3. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Adamant1 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: There's no FOP in Ukraine and this statue was created in 2000. So the image is clearly COPYVIO. Converting to DR per COM:CSD#F3. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
dubious license EdrianJustine (talk) 08:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep the file because insufficient information/reason; definitely that the uploader was hold rights under free license to this file and was not widespread over the internet. Apipattana (talk) 05:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
The uploader of this photograph has said that they are not in fact the owner of the copyright. They falsely claimed it's their own work then retracted that, they are also not the artist whose work is depicted. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gingeksace#Managing_a_conflict_of_interest Netherzone (talk) 23:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- I took this picture myself. I told I have asked to Menotti Lerro the permission to use some of his pictures and him gave me it. But in this case I have made the picture myself.Gingeksace (talk) 23:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:32, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Netherzone as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: The uploader of this photograph has said that they are not in fact the owner of the copyright. They falsely claimed it's their own work then retracted that, they are also not the artist whose work is depicted. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gingeksace#Managing_a_conflict_of_interest
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion. In some countries this photo would be ok per freedom-of-panorama, as the mosaic seems to be located ourdoors. Unfortunately, Italy has no freedom-of-panorama exception. Therefore, a permission by the artist is required or the image needs to be deleted. -- Túrelio (talk) 10:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
While the composition is in the Public Domain, this recording is of a modern performance, which must be presumed copyrighted. Paul_012 (talk) 11:27, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
While the composition is in the Public Domain, this recording is of a modern performance, which must be presumed copyrighted as there is no evidence noting of it being licensed. Paul_012 (talk) 11:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as no source (No source since) Krd 16:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as no source (No source since) Krd 16:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as no source (No source since) Krd 16:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as no source (No source since) Krd 16:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as no source (No source since) Krd 16:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Syrus257 as Logo. COM:TOO? King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 16:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Credited to "BBC's Podcast Rex", but Podcast Rex just seems to be a YouTube channel that publishes clips of many different podcast sources, with no particular connection to the BBC. Unclear whether they actually have permission to CC-Attribution licence all this content, it seems unlikely and https://podcastrex.com/submit-a-show doesn't mention the licensing. This is the only Podcast Rex sourced image I can see on Commons right now. Belbury (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
The image at Pixabay with this author and numerical ID does not match. https://pixabay.com/vectors/palm-hand-human-fingers-five-303412/ shows a different image. I didn't find this image at https://pixabay.com/images/search/user_id%3a3736%20hands/ or https://web.archive.org/web/20190403115255/https://pixabay.com/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=image&utm_content=303412 MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This appears to be a composite of "Hand Back Part" and "Palm Hand Human", both by that user. Omphalographer (talk) 21:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as per Omphalographer. Image is based on images that are free to use as stated on the cited webpages. Nacaru (talk) 21:28, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
The picture at the given URL of https://pixabay.com/photos/summer-tropical-tequila-drink-3106910/ does not match the upload. I searched through the Pixabay's photos at https://pixabay.com/users/5275305/?tab=photos&order=latest&pagi=1 but this image is not there. I also did not find this photo at https://pixabay.com/photos/search/tequila/ . MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
File:Portuguese electronic music pioneers Underground Sound Of Lisbon (or U.S.L.) in Portugal 1994 - photo by Ithaka Darin Pappas 01.jpg
editpromo endless description, out of scope GioviPen GP msg 21:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. In use at en:Underground Sound of Lisbon. Omphalographer (talk) 21:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- the page HAS to be fixed @Omphalographer
- it's unacceptable, full of promo info and automatic translation, copied in every version of the (all) images GioviPen GP msg 22:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- So fix it! The file doesn't need to be deleted just because it's got a bad description. Omphalographer (talk) 23:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
File:Portuguese electronic music pioneers Underground Sound Of Lisbon (or U.S.L.) in Portugal 1994 - photo by Ithaka Darin Pappas 02.jpg
editpromo endless description, out of scope; as for File:Portuguese electronic music pioneers Underground Sound Of Lisbon (or U.S.L.) in Portugal 1994 - photo by Ithaka Darin Pappas 01.jpg GioviPen GP msg 21:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
File:Portuguese electronic music pioneers Underground Sound Of Lisbon (or U.S.L.) in Portugal 1994 - photo by Ithaka Darin Pappas 03.jpg
editpromo endless description, out of scope; as for File:Portuguese electronic music pioneers Underground Sound Of Lisbon (or U.S.L.) in Portugal 1994 - photo by Ithaka Darin Pappas 01.jpg and second img GioviPen GP msg 21:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Unused. No encyclopedic value - this is just Soviet/Russian child urban legend. Alex Spade (talk) 21:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- But if it's an urban legend, it might be in scope?
- I case someone is wondering, the text reads Гитлер (Hitler), Гимлер (Himmler), Гебельс (Goebbels), Геринг (Göring). The Russian language does not have the letter "H", therefore all four names start with the letter "G" in Cyrillic (Г). The Cyrillic Г looks like one "arm" of the Swastika, so four Гs form a Swastika, and Г happens to be the initial letter of the names of four important Nazi figures. Nakonana (talk) 01:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- For encyclopedic value an urban legend must be described in reliable sources, there are not such sources for this legend. Alex Spade (talk) 04:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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Dmitry Moor 1941 (Published version) -
Sketch version
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A poster from 1941 (author Dmitry Moor). So categorical (talk) 21:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good finding! But then discussing version is an original research, Moor used another artistic representation of the 4G legend. Alex Spade (talk) 08:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
I have found another one. Alex Spade (talk) 08:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)- But it means that the urban legend is wide spread and famous enough that it found its way into (state) propaganda, which would mean that it is in scope? It's even mentioned on some official websites, e.g. [2] (although in this case it's really just briefly mentioned). Nakonana (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Moor's poster circulation was limited, so the legend is not wide spread (compared with ru:Садистские_стишки for example). Anyway Sovdetsvastika is an original research, it is not based on Moor's representation. In other words, Moor's poster is suitable illustration for possible encyclopedic article about the 4G legend, but Sovdetsvastika is not. Alex Spade (talk) 06:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- But it means that the urban legend is wide spread and famous enough that it found its way into (state) propaganda, which would mean that it is in scope? It's even mentioned on some official websites, e.g. [2] (although in this case it's really just briefly mentioned). Nakonana (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Original research (not to be confused with File:Soviet Swastika 2.svg). The swastika for kalmyk units was introduced in 1918-1919, the USSR was formed later. Alex Spade (talk) 22:09, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Ce n'est pas le bon, pour y travailler, je confirme Ttgv4445 (talk) 22:28, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bonjour,
- Dans ce cas il convient en effet de procéder à sa suppression.
- Je suis toutefois preneur de toute photographie de l'écusson officiel afin de le reproduire et l'intégrer dans Wikipedia.
- Cordialement Loick7695 (talk) 13:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Although, "[n]early all Govt.nz content is licensed under Creative Commons", per the Terms and Conditions of the Canterbury Maps website: "This website and the information provided in it are the copyright of the following District and Regional Council(s); Kaikoura District, Hurunui District, Waimakariri District, Christchurch District, Environment Canterbury Regional Council, Selwyn District, Ashburton District, Waimate District, Mackenzie District, Timaru District and Waitaki District. This website is a public service and may be used for personal and business purposes. However, you are not permitted to copy or republish any substantial amount of the information from this website without the prior written consent of the aforementioned Councils." (Emphasis added.) I think a map is a "substantial amount of ... information" and meets COM:TOO New Zealand. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not from New Zealand and this argument seems to hold water, so I won't stand in the way of deletion. Anyone have any other ideas how I can make a map to supplement the article? Riverhugger (talk) 23:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Solicito la eliminación de esta imagen que muestra el frontis de un negocio aleatorio porque 1) La imagen no tiene un valor enciclopédico significativo, ya que representa un negocio que no es notable ni tiene relevancia histórica. No contribuye al conocimiento general ni proporciona información valiosa para los usuarios de Wikimedia Commons y 2) La imagen parece haber sido subida sin el consentimiento del propietario del negocio. Esto podría violar los derechos de autor, ya que no se ha proporcionado una licencia adecuada que permita su uso. Por estas razones, solicito que se considere la eliminación de esta imagen de Wikimedia Commons. Gracias por su atención. Nosoymidori (talk) 00:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
